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Where did i said that Revelation 13 ...Revelation 17:8-17 and Revelation 19:11-21 invalidate Daniel 7 ?I said that it give more details who complete the Prophecy of Daniel 7 ....Do you have Scripture stating that Daniel 7 is a blueprint?
Daniel contains certain details. Revelation contains some of the same and some others. Revelation does not invalidate Daniel. Scripture does not contradict itself. The Reformers could proclaim Daniel without proclaiming Revelation and still be completely scriptural.
I didn't say that you said it. I said it myself.Where did i said that Revelation 13 ...Revelation 17:8-17 and Revelation 9:11-21 invalidate Daniel 7 ?I said that it give more details who complete the Prophecy of Daniel 7 ....
That's a good question, and one that I haven't yet formed an opinion about.What is your interpretation of
Revelation 13 ...Revelation 17:8-17 and Revelation 19:11-21 if you don't think that these verses are related to the Little Horn of Daniel 7 ?
Apart from saying that the Papacy is the Little Horn /"Antichrist" of Daniel 7:8 ,what does the Reformers have done ?That's a good question, and one that I haven't yet formed an opinion about.
It's apparent that the Reformers hadn't formed an opinion either.
You can google as well as I.Apart from saying that the Papacy is the Little Horn of Daniel 7 ,what does the Reformers have done ?
I have ...and with no surprise the goal of the Reformers was to get "their part of the cake" of power and money by trying to convert Catholics to became Protestants in their Protestant Church who of course they defined as the "true Church"....You can google as well as I.
So you wish that the Reformation had never happened?I have ...and with no surprise the goal of the Reformers was to get their part of the cake of power and money by trying to convert Catholics to became Protestants in their Protestant Church...
The Reformation - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com
The Protestant Reformation was the 16th-century religious, political, intellectual and cultural upheaval that splintered Catholic Europe, setting in place the structures and beliefs that would define the continent in the modern era. In northern and central Europe, reformers like Martin Luther, John Calvin and Henry VIII challenged papal authority and questioned the Catholic Church’s ability to define Christian practice. They argued for a religious and political redistribution of power into the hands of Bible- and pamphlet-reading pastors and princes. The disruption triggered wars, persecutions and the so-called Counter-Reformation, the Catholic Church’s delayed but forceful response to the Protestants.
Since 1830 the Protestant Churches have [also] been reformed....So you wish that the Reformation had never happened?
Since 1830 the Protestant Churches have [also] been reformed....
John Nelson Darby - Wikipedia
John Nelson Darby was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism [Pre-tribulation rapture of the "true" Church] and Futurism.
Since 1830 the Protestant Churches have [also] been reformed....
John Nelson Darby - Wikipedia
John Nelson Darby was an Anglo-Irish Bible teacher, one of the influential figures among the original Plymouth Brethren and the founder of the Exclusive Brethren. He is considered to be the father of modern Dispensationalism [Pre-tribulation rapture of the "true" Church] and Futurism.
Gutenberg In 1455 -[thus long before the Reformation]-printed a Bible in Latin ...and that Bible was accessible to anyone who wanted to purchase it...the Catholic Church have never prohibited the lecture of the Bible.You can google as well as I.
You and I wouldn't be having this discussion without them, because the historical papacy prohibited access to the Scriptures by the masses.
So give thanks for the freedoms purchased for us, often in blood and lives, by the Reformers.
Council of Toulouse, 1229Gutenberg In 1455 -[thus long before the Reformation]-printed a Bible in Latin ...and that Bible was accessible to anyone who wanted to purchase it...the Catholic Church have never prohibited the lecture of the Bible.
In 1455, Gutenberg produced what is considered to be the first book ever printed: a Latin language Bible, printed in Mainz, Germany.
Gutenberg Bible
I interpret that to be "I wish the Reformation had never happened."The Reformation have only produced division among Christians and religious conflicts in England between Protestants and Catholic ....Satan must be laughing a lot.
The reason for the prohibition is explained below...Council of Toulouse, 1229
"We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old and the New Testament; unless anyone from the motives of devotion should wish to have the Psalter or the Breviary for divine offices or the hours of the blessed Virgin; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books."[8][9]
So these do not apply to you and me?The reason for the prohibition is explained below...
‘In early times, the Bible was read freely by the lay people, and the Fathers constantly encourage them to do so, although they also insist on the obscurity of the sacred text. No prohibitions were issued against the popular reading of the Bible. New dangers came during the Middle Ages. When the heresy of the Albigenses arose there was a danger from corrupt translations, and also from the fact that the heretics tried to make the faithful judge the Church by their own interpretation of the Bible. To meet these evils, the Council of Toulouse (1229) and Tarragona (1234) forbade the laity to read the vernacular translations of the Bible. Pius IV required the bishops to refuse lay persons leave to read even Catholic versions of the Scripture, unless their confessors or parish priests judged that such readings was likely to prove beneficial.’ (Addis and Arnold, Catholic Dictionary, The Catholic Publications Society Co., N.Y., 1887, p. 82).
Source:
Bible Forbidden to the Laity
There was no greater corruption of the Scriptures than that perpetuated by the papacy. But God always preserves and protects His Word....we don't try to corrupt the Scriptures.
True....lets do the test.But God always preserves and protects His Word
Are these Scriptures corrupt?True....lets do the test.
Revelation 20:1-5 tell us about the 1,000 years reign of Jesus with those who will be beheaded by the Beast during the tribulation .... Some Protestant Denominations does not agree about what is clearly written, and try to say that the 1,000 years means only a long period of time who have started 2,000 years ago....That is an example of an attempt to corrupt the Scriptures.
Revelation 20:1-5 KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
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