• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Setting the Record Straight

Status
Not open for further replies.

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
15,069
5,309
✟327,545.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
Religious affiliation doesn't have anything to do with it. Anyone in any religion seeking the spirit will encounter it. Religious institutions are largely evolutionary and more or less human.

If and when you stop fighting against God and invite him into your life then you will understand.

In other words, if I believe, then I'll believe. I'm sorry, but I find that to be a very bad argument.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: tyke
Upvote 0

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
15,069
5,309
✟327,545.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
Yes.

My [religion] says other religions are wrong.

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.


People of all religions say the same thing.

There are exceptions.

People of all religions make exceptions for their own religion as well.

(So far I haven't seen you do anything that people of other religions haven't done. You've done nothing to separate yourself from them. Maybe one day you will surprise me.)
 
Upvote 0

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,855,742
52,531
Guam
✟5,136,514.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
(So far I haven't seen you do anything that people of other religions haven't done. You've done nothing to separate yourself from them. Maybe one day you will surprise me.)
Exodus 7:11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
 
Upvote 0

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
15,069
5,309
✟327,545.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
Exodus 7:11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

Again, people of every religion say that those of other religions have failed. You still haven't done anything the others haven't.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: tyke
Upvote 0

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
15,069
5,309
✟327,545.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
Once I was born of the spirit, I had an entirely different understanding. I was alone and completely outside of religion.

Once you were born of the spirit, you had a vested interest in holding that belief. It's no different to what you said before. If you decide that you want to believe, you'll find a way to get yourself to believe.
 
Upvote 0

miknik5

"Let not your heart be troubled"
Jun 9, 2016
15,728
2,819
USA
✟109,054.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
People of every religion say their God did things that proved their religion was correct.
People of every religion do not have THE SON who came into the world

Many will profess god(s) but deny THE SON

He who denies THE SON denies THE FATHER who sent

He who has THE SON, has THE FATHER also

GOD has glorified and magnified HIMSELF in HIS SON

What religion can claim that GOD who is HOLY, HOLY, HOLY...has provided a way for man who is not holy, holy, holy?
 
Upvote 0

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
15,069
5,309
✟327,545.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
People of every religion do not have THE SON who came into the world

No, they have other things, which they all believe proves that their religion is the correct one.

You still haven't shown me anything that proves that Christianity is true while others aren't.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: tyke
Upvote 0

miknik5

"Let not your heart be troubled"
Jun 9, 2016
15,728
2,819
USA
✟109,054.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
No, they have other things, which they all believe proves that their religion is the correct one.

You still haven't shown me anything that proves that Christianity is true while others aren't.
What are they going to do on the day that they come face to face with GOD
 
Upvote 0

miknik5

"Let not your heart be troubled"
Jun 9, 2016
15,728
2,819
USA
✟109,054.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
No, they have other things, which they all believe proves that their religion is the correct one.

You still haven't shown me anything that proves that Christianity is true while others aren't.
I edited my post.
 
Upvote 0

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
15,069
5,309
✟327,545.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
GOD, by sending HIS SON into the world, shut up the mouths of every other lying spirit who suggest "another way"

People of every religion make the claim that their faith puts the others to shame.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: tyke
Upvote 0

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
15,069
5,309
✟327,545.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
I edited my post.

Irrelevant.

You can claim all you want that your religion makes as many claims as you want that you allege that it is true, but people of every religion also make many claims that they allege proves their religion to be true.

You still haven't shown me anything that Christianity has that other religions don't. Sure, there are differences in details, but the main things that you have in your faith are present in many other faiths as well. Miracles, deities, amazing events, divinely inspired books, it's all there.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tyke
Upvote 0

Colter

Member
Nov 9, 2004
8,711
1,407
61
✟100,301.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Married
Once you were born of the spirit, you had a vested interest in holding that belief. It's no different to what you said before. If you decide that you want to believe, you'll find a way to get yourself to believe.
You are projecting your own mental processes onto me. What happened to me changed my life, i have grown in understanding and awareness of this same spirit. It was like Saul before I even knew the story of Saul.

But I guess in your case what you are saying is that you are Atheist simply because you decided to be, not because it's wise or logical.
 
Upvote 0

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
15,069
5,309
✟327,545.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
You are projecting your own mental processes onto me. What happened to me changed my life, i have grown in understanding and awareness of this same spirit. It was like Saul before I even knew the story of Saul.

People of all religions have miraculous experiences, encoutners with God, or whatever else you want to describe it as. Christianity does not have a monopoly.

A friend of mine once converted to Islam from Christianity because she had a vision of Muhammad. She was entirely convinced that it was real. If you want me to believe that your divine experience is evidence for your particular flavour of Christianity, then you should also hold my friend's experience is evidence that Islam is the correct faith, shouldn't you?

Or are you going to invoke the double standard I see so often and claim that it's only evidence when it supports the position that you agree with?

But I guess in your case what you are saying is that you are Atheist simply because you decided to be, not because it's wise or logical.

No, not at all.

For the last page or so, I've been pointing out that the different religions of the world all say pretty much the same thing. But there's also science, and it says something that no religion ever has:

"Don't take my word for it, go and see the evidence for yourself."

All religion can do is make the claim, and at the end of the day, all religion has are the claims it makes. But science has evidence. I don't need to take a scientist's word for it that the speed of light is what it is. I can go and make the measurements for myself. But I can never check for myself to see if the Christian version of creation is more accurate than the Hindu version.

And that is why I follow the science. And since science has never come to a point where God is the only possible answer, I do not believe in God.
 
Upvote 0

miknik5

"Let not your heart be troubled"
Jun 9, 2016
15,728
2,819
USA
✟109,054.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Irrelevant.

You can claim all you want that your religion makes as many claims as you want that you allege that it is true, but people of every religion also make many claims that they allege proves their religion to be true.

You still haven't shown me anything that Christianity has that other religions don't. Sure, there are differences in details, but the main things that you have in your faith are present in many other faiths as well. Miracles, deities, amazing events, divinely inspired books, it's all there.
Irrelevant?

But I didn't do that
I didn't claim ANYTHING about religion.

I claimed the HOLINESS of GOD

Which is very relevant
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.