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Senate Intel, GOP and Dems Agree: No collusion

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Good point, because that's exactly what Obama said. Talk about actual collusion. It seems the democrats accuse the republicans of everything they themselves do.
How does President Obama's sidebar with Medvedev constitute "collusion"? Does anyone who is poo pooing this situation understand what that word means?
 
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They've been trying to frame Trump for the kinds of stuff they were doing themselves. Almost like a fox trying to divert attention away. The Clinton campaign hired a foreign citizen who was a retired spy to get information from Russians to use to influence the presidential election. Maybe a lot of Americans have attention deficit disorder? So it was easy for the opposition to say "hey look, look over there at Trump, he did it." Now we find out that the FBI was "colluding" with the State Department as a quid pro quo in the email investigation.

Its all coming out!
 
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Here is the headline from NBC.

Senate has uncovered no direct evidence of conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia
Not "no evidence", but no direct evidence. A ton of indirect evidence which some people are conveniently trying to ignore.
 
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How many investigators have to say there is no evidence of collusion before one will believe it?
So far, only the Nunes "investigation" has said "no evidence". There is a yuge difference between "no evidence" and "no direct evidence", which cannot just be hand waved away. And, of course, the special prosecutor's investigation has been extended - we don't know what evidence that investigation has found re collusion.
 
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The President is always careful to deny "collusion" specifically, and not any other wrongdoing.
That's not exactly true. He initially denied there was any contact between his campaign and Russia - if we're to believe the OP's article, that was a lie.
 
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They've been trying to frame Trump for the kinds of stuff they were doing themselves. Almost like a fox trying to divert attention away. The Clinton campaign hired a foreign citizen who was a retired spy to get information from Russians to use to influence the presidential election. Maybe a lot of Americans have attention deficit disorder? So it was easy for the opposition to say "hey look, look over there at Trump, he did it." Now we find out that the FBI was "colluding" with the State Department as a quid pro quo in the email investigation.

Its all coming out!
So why can’t the GOP President and his appointed people figure it out ???
 
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Obama wasn’t encouraging Russia to meddle in the election. But thanks for playing What About Obama.
Neither was Trump it seems. If they found evidence you would accept it, but there is none, so why not accept that?
 
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Neither was Trump it seems. If they found evidence you would accept it, but there is none, so why not accept that?
A good syndicate leader never let’s himself do the dirty work directly.
 
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It's been two years or better since Mueller was given charte blanche to find evidence against Trump.
In the long run I don't think that line of argument will serve you very well. Trying to paint the Mueller investigation as about nothing besides "getting Trump" has only convinced his fan club. The rest of us see it for the lie that it is, and wonder why so much effort has been put into creating a red herring. You've managed to make us more suspicious of your wonder boy, not less.
 
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In the long run I don't think that line of argument will serve you very well. Trying to paint the Mueller investigation as about nothing besides "getting Trump" has only convinced his fan club. The rest of us see it for the lie that it is, and wonder why so much effort has been put into creating a red herring. You've managed to make us more suspicious of your wonder boy, not less.

It is a witch hunt one that will never be admitted. It's a hoax aimed at getting Trump out of office.

"wonder why so much effort has been put into creating a red herring."

The push to oust Trump began even before his inauguration.

Mueller isn't going to report any evidence for collusion but the report released through the media will serve the attempt to make it "look" like there had been. There can be no admission from the left otherwise. Ever.

Trump was supposed to be a clown, an idiot, a buffoon. Yet, I see stories that he's so shrewd, so cunning as to make evidence a ghost in the fog.
He's survived everything thrown at him. For two years. Another candidate of the 16 in the republican primary would have been long gone by now.
Trump represents the building America. Or rebuilding however one cares to see it. But the opposition wants a new America since the old America is believed to have been built on slavery, bigotry and discrimination. Therefore the current America cannot be allowed to exist. It must be replaced.
 
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