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[SIZE=-1]Well, it's about people who abandon their natural relations. People abandon their natural relations when they try to go against their sexual orientation. For example, a heterosexual having homosexual sex (like in that example from the Bible), or a homosexual having heterosexual sex, is abandoning their natural relations. If a person has always been homosexual, then they haven't abandoned anything[/SIZE].
WRONG! There is no plural personal pronoun in the verse. It reads "THE natural use" NOT "their natural use." This was clearly understood and taught by the Greek speaking early church.
Clement of Alexandria The Instructor - Pedagogos Book 3
Chapter 3
Against Men Who Embellish Themselves [153 - 217 AD]
Such was predicted of old, and the result is notorious: the whole earth has now become full of fornication and wickedness. I admire the ancient legislators of the Romans: these detested effeminacy of conduct; and the giving of the body to feminine purposes, contrary to the law of nature, they judged worthy of the extremest penalty, according to the righteousness of the law.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf02.vi.iii.iii.html
Tertullian The Chaplet, or De Corona. Chapter VI. [145-220 AD]
Demanding then a law of God, you have that common one [law] prevailing all over the world, engraven on the natural tables to which the apostle too is wont to appeal, as when in respect. of the woman's veil he says, "Does not even Nature teach you? " -as when to the Romans, affirming that the heathen do by nature those things which the law requires, he suggests both natural law and a law-revealing nature. Yes, and also in the first chapter of the epistle [Rom 1.] he authenticates nature, when he asserts that males and females changed among themselves the natural use of the creature into that which is unnatural, by way of penal retribution for their error. [Rom 1:27]
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf03.iv.vi.html
Tertullian VII. On Modesty.[sup]1[/sup] Chapter IV.-Adultery and Fornication Synonymous.
Accordingly, among us, secret connections as well-connections, that is, not first professed in presence of the Church-run risk of being judged akin to adultery and fornication; nor must we let them, if thereafter woven together by the covering of marriage, elude the charge. But all the other frenzies of passions-impious both toward the bodies and toward the sexes-beyond the laws of nature, we banish not only from the threshold, but from all shelter of the Church, because they are not sins, but monstrosities.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf04.iii.viii.html
Chapter 3
Against Men Who Embellish Themselves [153 - 217 AD]
Such was predicted of old, and the result is notorious: the whole earth has now become full of fornication and wickedness. I admire the ancient legislators of the Romans: these detested effeminacy of conduct; and the giving of the body to feminine purposes, contrary to the law of nature, they judged worthy of the extremest penalty, according to the righteousness of the law.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf02.vi.iii.iii.html
Tertullian The Chaplet, or De Corona. Chapter VI. [145-220 AD]
Demanding then a law of God, you have that common one [law] prevailing all over the world, engraven on the natural tables to which the apostle too is wont to appeal, as when in respect. of the woman's veil he says, "Does not even Nature teach you? " -as when to the Romans, affirming that the heathen do by nature those things which the law requires, he suggests both natural law and a law-revealing nature. Yes, and also in the first chapter of the epistle [Rom 1.] he authenticates nature, when he asserts that males and females changed among themselves the natural use of the creature into that which is unnatural, by way of penal retribution for their error. [Rom 1:27]
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf03.iv.vi.html
Tertullian VII. On Modesty.[sup]1[/sup] Chapter IV.-Adultery and Fornication Synonymous.
Accordingly, among us, secret connections as well-connections, that is, not first professed in presence of the Church-run risk of being judged akin to adultery and fornication; nor must we let them, if thereafter woven together by the covering of marriage, elude the charge. But all the other frenzies of passions-impious both toward the bodies and toward the sexes-beyond the laws of nature, we banish not only from the threshold, but from all shelter of the Church, because they are not sins, but monstrosities.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf04.iii.viii.html
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