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Yes sir.
But you do NOT understand what it means for God to be faithful to Himself. TO HIMSELF.
Why not do a study on this?
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Yes sir.I've been referring to that passage for a long time.
It's because of the indwelling Holy Spirit, God's mark or seal of those having believed, who is a deposit who guarantees our inheritance until the redemption of God's possession.
Those are clearly stated words about eternal security.
And you can't explain it away. All you can do is reject the truth.
Believing you could live as you might wish to, abandon God, trample the blood of Jesus underfoot...I can't take your 'truth'. I can take Gods Truth, I love it as a matter of fact.
Your 'truth' scares me and those who believe like me. Why? Because it is not The Truth.
The Truth tells me I will never ,no not ever perish. Your 'truth' tells me I might perish. And by default tells me I am not one of His sheep.
Tell that to the Lord Jesus Christ. What is really sick and twisted, is coming up with every conceivable scenario in the world to murder other brothers and sisters who have His Promise and forever seal of God for their salvation. Loss of salvation in reality is an affront and attack on the very virtue and integrity of our Lord and Savior.
It's rather intellectually dishonest of you to ask if I don't believe Jesus was a man and connect that to the anti-Christ.Now I'm doubly disconcerted. You don't believe Jesus was a man?
2 John 1:7~~New American Standard Bible
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.
It sure seems that you think it can be unsealed.....because it is the same seal He puts on believers.
Matt 3:16~~New American Standard Bible
After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him,
John 6:27~~New American Standard Bible
"Do not work for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you, for on Him the Father, God, has set His seal."
2 Cor 1:22~~New American Standard Bible
who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge.
Did you notice the seals? The believer has the same seal as the Son.It's rather intellectually dishonest of you to ask if I don't believe Jesus was a man and connect that to the anti-Christ.
I'd say the anti-Christs are those that teach doctrine that is not biblical and that could cause some to lose their salvation.
They will have God to answer to.
James 3:1
Already answered.Did you notice the seals? The believer has the same seal as the Son.
That seal can be rescinded?
Can Gods seal be rescinded?Already answered.
Why repeat?
You would actually pay attention and maybe believe me?
I don't think so.
1. I stated that the seal was on JESUS and not on man.Can Gods seal be rescinded?
John 6:27~~New American Standard Bible
"Do not work for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you, for on Him the Father, God, has set His seal."
GodsGrace101 said: ↑
Kings would put a seal on an order of theirs. So, could the order be rescinded? Of course!
And then I stated that the seal is the exact same seal that God puts on believers. If ours can be broken....Jesus' seal could also be broken.1. I stated that the seal was on JESUS and not on man.
Your first paragraph is wrong.And then I stated that the seal is the exact same seal that God puts on believers. If ours can be broken....Jesus' seal could also be broken.
New American Standard Bible
"Do not work for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you, for on Him the Father, God, has set His seal."
2 Cor 1:22~~New American Standard Bible
who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a pledge.
Strong's Concordance
sphragizó: to seal
Original Word: σφραγίζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: sphragizó
Phonetic Spelling: (sfrag-id'-zo)
Short Definition: I set a seal upon
Definition: I seal, set a seal upon.
Here is a start for ya:Yes sir.
But you do NOT understand what it means for God to be faithful to Himself. TO HIMSELF.
Why not do a study on this?
No it's not.Your first paragraph is wrong.
So the Father could possibly remove Jesus' seal, that is EXACTLY the same seal he put's on believers. OK. He can do what ever He want's.God could do whatever He wants to do. He's not restricted by any of the laws HE put into place.
Still not answering questions, huh.Still dodging the truth. LOL!!!
Only by all the false teachers who feel threatened by the truth that I present from Scripture, unlike you. You only present your own opinions, unfortunately shared by other false teachers.This is why you are considered a false teacher throughout all the forums.
Ha. I've answered every honest question. Unlike yourself, who ignores questions.You can't answer a simple question honestly.
If you believe this means unsaved, then your whole premise is bogus. You've failed to prove your premise.The 100 sheep belong to the shepherd. They are his sheep.
“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. Luke 15:4-7
One sheep becomes lost.
Have you stopped beating your wife yet? yes or no.Is the lost sheep that Jesus is teaching us about here in this passage, saved or unsaved?
Go ahead and answer my questions and then I'll answer yours.So based on your theology, a sheep who is lost is still saved?
JLB
No, you've got it wrong again! The Holy Spirit is GIVEN (not promised) to those who believe.Yes, the Holy Spirit is promised to those who believe, we all agree on that.
Oh, that's funny, Mr short attention span man.Pay attention to the question.
No, but they're still sealed with the Holy Spirit until the redemption of God's possession, per Eph 1:14, and they still possess eternal life, per John 10:28, because they were born again of imperishable seed, per 1 Pet 1:23.Is someone who believes for a while, then no longer believes, still a believer?
JLB
Here's what I'll answer: honest questions that have no false premise. Your questions are devoid of honesty and truthful premises.Are you going to answer the question that is based in the teaching of Jesus?
Have you stopped beating your wife yet? yes or noIs the lost sheep that Jesus is teaching us about here in this passage, saved or unsaved?
Said the liar!Stop lying!
What a joke. Said the failure to answer man.You can't even answer this simple question from your own scripture?
There is nothing in v.28 that will answer your bogus question. The answer comes from v.27; His sheep are given eternal life. As I've already explained many times.And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. John 10:28
What will cause Jesus to give a person eternal life based on this verse?
Your doctrine that behavior or lifestyle determines salvation is false doctrine all the way.The 100 sheep belong to the shepherd. They are his sheep.
“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. Luke 15:4-7
One sheep becomes lost.
The reason he becomes lost is he stops hearing and following.
Is the lost sheep that Jesus is teaching us about here in this passage, saved or unsaved?
JLB
Do you really not understand that the Father, Son AND Holy Spirit are ALL God?Yes sir.
But you do NOT understand what it means for God to be faithful to Himself. TO HIMSELF.
Why not do a study on this?
Wrong.Believing you could live as you might wish to, abandon God, trample the blood of Jesus underfoot...
and still be saved...
is the true attack on the integrity of our Lord and Savior.
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