Secular Student Alliance

[yourstrulyjulie]

My school just started a secular student alliance chapter, and I know someone who went today and thought it was the best thing ever. I don't know what to say about it exactly except that it just deeply saddens me that these students are putting so much enthusiasm into turning away from religion and trying to convince other students to do the same

Secular Student Alliance: Atheists, Humanists, Agnostics & Others |

thoughts on this organization?

 

[poeticlurker]

Non-religious students deserve a group to, just like Christian students do. They're not doing anything different from Christians, except spreading a different message.

 

[vanille meisje]

Hmm, never heard of that organisation before.

Your friend probably enjoyed the meeting because it's nice when we find people whose views match our own. You probably like going to Christian groups because you meet people who share your faith and talk about things you consider true; your friend is the same. Instead of trying to persuade your friend not to go, maybe arrange a swap, where she visits your meetings once and you go to one with her. Keep an open exchange of dialogue going. Ask her to talk about what draws her to that group or how she got her opinions, and continue sharing your beliefs with her too, in a friendly way. Even if you don't end up changing her mind, you'll encourage her to bring the message of a positive Christian friend to group with her, and maybe that's something the other people attending haven't experienced before.

 

[HeavyMetalDude]

There is one at my school because there are 2 christian clubs. Once christian club is your generic boring club and the other is one of those over the top recruiter type christian club. So the atheists fought back with an athiest club. I can understand why they did that. People that are in your face about faith really just push people away.

 

[Marcus Constantine]

People are often pleased to find others that like to partake in a willful ignorance of truth. The ultimate goal of many secular-humanists isn't to find truth, but to ignore that they have to answer to God.

 

[Chris246]

My school just started a secular student alliance chapter, and I know someone who went today and thought it was the best thing ever. I don't know what to say about it exactly except that it just deeply saddens me that these students are putting so much enthusiasm into turning away from religion and trying to convince other students to do the same</p>
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thoughts on this organization?

What?! That's the BEST THING EVAH!!!!!I don't even understand how christians like you can handle school.

 

[scraparcs]

One of the great things about religion (and I'm including Christianity in this) is how it forms community. Non-theists are getting together and forming communities. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[yourstrulyjulie]

What?! That's the BEST THING EVAH!!!!!I don't even understand how christians like you can handle school.

What is that supposed to mean? I fail to see how non-christians can handle school.. its the only thing that gets me through!

 

[poeticlurker]

What is that supposed to mean? I fail to see how non-christians can handle school.. its the only thing that gets me through!

He means that he's wondering how you get through school not appreciating that there are other beliefs and viewpoints, i.e. that not everyone is Christian.

 

[Paulie079]

What?! That's the BEST THING EVAH!!!!!I don't even understand how christians like you can handle school.

Obvious troll is obvious...

There's nothing wrong with people getting together in groups to share similar ideas/beliefs. As a Christian, it can be hard to see people uniting in a false worldview but you just have to befriend those people and get to know them and be Jesus to them in the way you live your life.

 

[K9_Trainer]

Well Christians do the same thing....Put enthusiasm into religion and convince others to do the same

Everybody has different view points and different life and world views. Why don't you join their group? Try to see them as people who have had their own individual life experiences and have reasons for what they believe (or don't believe) rather than people who are choosing to remain blissfully ignorant. Chances are, they know more about Christianity than you expect

 

[Shabby]

I actually hope atheists become even more militant, and start actually representing ourselves in the government. It's time we take the country back from the religious right that are preventing scientific advancement, basic civil rights, and a higher level of tolerance.

 

[Paulie079]

I actually hope atheists become even more militant, and start actually representing ourselves in the government. It's time we take the country back from the religious right that are preventing scientific advancement, basic civil rights, and a higher level of tolerance.

While I understand where you're coming from, the bad that would come from that would outweigh the good...

 

[SonOfTheWest]

While I understand where you're coming from, the bad that would come from that would outweigh the good...

I'd like to think that I don't know what the outcome would be. Making broad generalizations about a nebulously defined social movement seems......inaccurate at best. That aside. I think people have a right to assembly and if a student ground is allowed to form people should be free to form it.

 

[Shabby]

While I understand where you're coming from, the bad that would come from that would outweigh the good...

I can see very few negative drawbacks from it. People like Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly would disappear into the fray where they belong, and we'd have sensible people directing our country to a better, reasonable future. Instead of having the debate about whether or not to use stem cell research, we'd be able to make real progress into curing genetic maladies. Rather than debating whether or not people should be able to serve openly in the military, we'd be discussing how to best protect ourselves from religious extremists.

 

[Shabby]

Making broad generalizations about a nebulously defined social movement seems......inaccurate at best.

While it's hard to predict any specific events, it's not hard to imagine what a more secularized world would look like.

 

[SonOfTheWest]

While it's hard to predict any specific events, it's not hard to imagine what a more secularized world would look like.

Oh no doubt in some ways. My admonition of what he said has more to do with trying to shove a simplistic statement into inherently complex subjects like social movements and less about the specific nature of the complex subject at hand.

 

[Paulie079]

I can see very few negative drawbacks from it. People like Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly would disappear into the fray where they belong, and we'd have sensible people directing our country to a better, reasonable future. Instead of having the debate about whether or not to use stem cell research, we'd be able to make real progress into curing genetic maladies. Rather than debating whether or not people should be able to serve openly in the military, we'd be discussing how to best protect ourselves from religious extremists.

You would also lose basis for morality in general and that is a slippery, slippery slope.

 

[laconicstudent]

What is that supposed to mean? I fail to see how non-christians can handle school.. its the only thing that gets me through!

You need religion to survive college? Seriously? That's kind of sad.

 

[laconicstudent]

My school just started a secular student alliance chapter, and I know someone who went today and thought it was the best thing ever. I don't know what to say about it exactly except that it just deeply saddens me that these students are putting so much enthusiasm into turning away from religion and trying to convince other students to do the same

Why?

Secular Student Alliance: Atheists, Humanists, Agnostics & Others |

thoughts on this organization?

Its okay, I guess.