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Hello and good evening everyone,

In God's Word it is revealed to us that He uses the stars and planets to reveal many prophetic events.

What does the planet Saturn have to do with the Second Coming?

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Lfi
I don't know, but I believe that Elijah has arrived though. It's a feeling I have deep down in my heart!
 
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Strange you should ask that, LFI. I used to have nightmares about Saturn nearly colliding with the earth -- in my dream I would see it so close it took up like 1/3 or 1/2 of the visible sky ... SCARY!!!! that was!!!!

Elijah2 ... when did you start to feel this? Did it influence your choice of user name here? (just wondering)
 
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That is interesting. I have talked to so many people who sense that we only have a matter of years left at most. I have this feeling that I can't define too that there isn't much time left bfore Jesus rips back the veil & comes for His bride.

You mentioned 1 profit bro:) Do you a sense that the other is on his way or already here too?
 
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hmmm saturn the orange planet isnt it?

uuuum well nothing in the bible right? you will have to search and find some godly people who god has told about thatt planet be careful in that and make sure god is speaking! cause its not in the scripture me thinks :scratch:
 
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Saturn is associated with Chronos, who is the symbolic guardian of time -- the keeper of time or "Father Time" often pictured as an exceeding elderly man with a long beard and an hourglass (and sometimes a scythe). As the keeper of time Chronos is also associated with the figure of the Reaper which can indicate either Harvest or Death. Chronos was also known as Aion or Aeon and was considered the ruler of the ages in the Greek mythos. Ananke (inevitability) was his mate. In certain occult traditions the planetary intelligence of Saturn/Chronos is associated with "Karma" or the idea of Judgment -- one's spiritual bill coming due and the fruition of what one has "sown" being "reaped."

These symbols, while coming from Graeco-Roman mythology, are fairly pertinent to the Second Coming. In Revelation 14:14-16, Jesus is pictured as the one with the sickle who is ready to reap the earth:

14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one "like a son of man" with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, "Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe." 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

Jesus' Second Coming will be the end of TIME as we know it for this planet, hence the association with "father Time" and the old man figure (who is often used to symbolise the end of the old year as the new year baby is used to symbolise the beginning of the new). Jesus' Second Coming also inaugurates the Judgment, the time at which everyone's time will be up ("there should be time no longer" - Rev. 10:6) and all "spiritual bills" will be due at once and paid justly by the Father and our Lord.

Last but not least the planet Saturn corresponds to the day Saturday, which from ancient times has been the memorial of fiat ex nihilo Creation by the spoken Word of God. In Eden this day was "blessed and hallowed" as a time of rest (Gen 2:3) and memorialized for all time and eternity (Matthew 5:17-19) as such in the 4th of the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11)
[bible]Exodus 20:8-11[/bible]
[bible]Matthew 5:17-19[/bible]
In Revelation it is spoken that the first of the final three messages of God's mercy to this world prior to Jesus' Return involves a call to acknowledge Him specifically AS the Creator:
[bible]Revelation 14:6-7[/bible]

So yes, in a very heavy multi-faceted symbolic sense, the planet Saturn does relate a great deal to the Second Coming.
 
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Thank you everyone for all those insightful responses. I do appreciate them.

Samsonknight you asked if I saw this in a dream.

Yes I did.

My dream began with me staring out into space. It was night time and I could see the stars in a distance. Than instantly 12 huge/gigantic calendars began appearing in front of me one by one from right to left and I began reading them as well from right to left rather than from Left to right. After a short while, I was drawn to look at the last month, and behind that particular calendar appeared the planet Saturn. Just then a voice spoke out to me (It was not God, but a messenger), he said "That is the day the Lord will come." And than I woke up.

I've never shared this dream before, but I felt compelled to.

Looking forward to more responses

Lfi
 
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Wow I have to give two warnings in one day about Astrology. Stay away from it!

Isaiah 47:13-14: All the counsel you have received has only worn you out! Let your astrologers come forward, those stargazers who make predictions month by month, let them save you from what is coming upon you. Surely they are like stubble; the fire will burn them up. They cannot even save themselves from the power of the flame. Here are no coals to warm anyone; here is no fire to sit by.

God was mocking the astrologers for making vain predictions. Can it be any clearer than that!?

There are many other scriptures about astrology/witchcraft, and interpreters of omens. How anyone (even those who don't know the Bible very well) can misinterpret God's word on this issue is beyond me:

Deuteronomy 4:19: "Be careful that you don't worship the sun, moon, and stars."

Deuteronomy 17:2-5 in the Old Testament says that those who worshipped the sun, moon, or stars were to be stoned.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 says that practicing witchcraft, sorcery, soothsaying, interpreting omens, making spells, and being a medium or spiritist, are all terrible sins to God.

Daniel 2:27-28 talks of how God kept King Nebuchadnezzar's dream and its interpretation secret from the astrologers, magicians or dream interpreters, and soothsayers. However, he revealed it to his prophet Daniel.

Acts 16:16-18 talks of a girl who was possessed by an evil spirit that enabled her to be a fortune teller. Paul commanded the evil spirit to come out of her in the name or authority of Jesus, and the spirit left her:

Deuteronomy 18:9-11: "Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft..."

2 Chronicles 33:5-7: "He sacrificed his sons in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced sorcery, divination and witchcraft, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the LORD, provoking him to anger."

Sounds pretty clear to me.

OU
 
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This is exactly (with this particular angle) that it appeared to me.

454551saturn.jpg
 
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Saturn is associated with Chronos, who is the symbolic guardian of time -- the keeper of time or "Father Time" often pictured as an exceeding elderly man with a long beard and an hourglass (and sometimes a scythe). As the keeper of time Chronos is also associated with the figure of the Reaper which can indicate either Harvest or Death. Chronos was also known as Aion or Aeon and was considered the ruler of the ages in the Greek mythos. Ananke (inevitability) was his mate. In certain occult traditions the planetary intelligence of Saturn/Chronos is associated with "Karma" or the idea of Judgment -- one's spiritual bill coming due and the fruition of what one has "sown" being "reaped."

These symbols, while coming from Graeco-Roman mythology, are fairly pertinent to the Second Coming. In Revelation 14:14-16, Jesus is pictured as the one with the sickle who is ready to reap the earth:

14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one "like a son of man" with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, "Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe." 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

Jesus' Second Coming will be the end of TIME as we know it for this planet, hence the association with "father Time" and the old man figure (who is often used to symbolise the end of the old year as the new year baby is used to symbolise the beginning of the new). Jesus' Second Coming also inaugurates the Judgment, the time at which everyone's time will be up ("there should be time no longer" - Rev. 10:6) and all "spiritual bills" will be due at once and paid justly by the Father and our Lord.

Last but not least the planet Saturn corresponds to the day Saturday, which from ancient times has been the memorial of fiat ex nihilo Creation by the spoken Word of God. In Eden this day was "blessed and hallowed" as a time of rest (Gen 2:3) and memorialized for all time and eternity (Matthew 5:17-19) as such in the 4th of the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11)
[bible]Exodus 20:8-11[/bible]
[bible]Matthew 5:17-19[/bible]
In Revelation it is spoken that the first of the final three messages of God's mercy to this world prior to Jesus' Return involves a call to acknowledge Him specifically AS the Creator:
[bible]Revelation 14:6-7[/bible]

So yes, in a very heavy multi-faceted symbolic sense, the planet Saturn does relate a great deal to the Second Coming.

Thank you Moriah for taking the time to post this response.

God bless you

JESUS LOVES US

God is love and all who follow Him are as well.

Lfi
 
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LFI, that is the angle I have seen it when in my dreams it seemed about to collide with the earth.

Than instantly 12 huge/gigantic calendars began appearing in front of me one by one from right to left and I began reading them as well from right to left rather than from Left to right. After a short while, I was drawn to look at the last month, and behind that particular calendar appeared the planet Saturn.
One thing I forgot to mention in my discourse on mythological Saturn/Chronos (because I foolishly felt it didn't matter!) is that in addition to being considered 'ruler of the ages' he is also considered ruler of the Zodiac (12 calendars ... 12 signs .... et.c..)

OttawaUk said:
Wow I have to give two warnings in one day about Astrology. Stay away from it!
WITHOUT disagreeing with Otta's counsel here, I do want to remind us all of to Whom the moon, the stars and the sun belong ... and the purpose of their making according to Genesis:
[bible]Genesis 1:14-19[/bible]
Note especially verse 14: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:"
That isn't my opinion or idea; it is the Word of God. Surely it means what it says.
 
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Thank you Moriah for taking the time to post this response.

God bless you

JESUS LOVES US

God is love and all who follow Him are as well.

Lfi
God bless and keep you, guide you and lead you, too, LFI.

Amen, God is Love, and He has given us His Spirit that we might know Love, and dwell in Love, and have our being in Love, and have sweet fellowship one with another in His Son! :clap:
 
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I've read a M. J. Agee's books (google her) and one of her books, A Butter and Honey Star sets forth that Saturn is actually God's throne; heaven. She sets out lots of reasons, one of which being the "third heaven" is mentioned. 3rd from earth is Saturn. its very interesting.
I may try and get a link.
 
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I've read a M. J. Agee's books (google her) and one of her books, A Butter and Honey Star sets forth that Saturn is actually God's throne; heaven. She sets out lots of reasons, one of which being the "third heaven" is mentioned. 3rd from earth is Saturn. its very interesting.
I may try and get a link.

Yes that does sound most intriguing and interesting.

Please feel free to post a link.

Thank you

Lfi
 
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[quote Moriah_Conquering_Wind;28371121]LFI, that is the angle I have seen it when in my dreams it seemed about to collide with the earth. Very interesting Moriah. Have you had many dreams about this? Are they repetition or interchangable dreams pertaining to the same topic? This also brings to mind that I have heard of a comet hitting the earth supposedly in the year 2012. Do you know anything about that? I was just curious if you do. Do you think that perhaps this comet they speak about could actually perhaps be Saturn? What are you thoughts on that? And also I do know that eclipses of the sun and moon are very significant pertaining to Prophecy as well. I am enjoying speaking with you about this. Thank you.

One thing I forgot to mention in my discourse on mythological Saturn/Chronos (because I foolishly felt it didn't matter!) is that in addition to being considered 'ruler of the ages' he is also considered ruler of the Zodiac (12 calendars ... 12 signs .... et.c..) Appreciate you adding that.

WITHOUT disagreeing with Otta's counsel here, I do want to remind us all of to Whom the moon, the stars and the sun belong ... and the purpose of their making according to Genesis:

[bible]Genesis 1:14-19[/bible]
Note especially verse 14: "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:"

That isn't my opinion or idea; it is the Word of God. Surely it means what it says. =Quote Moriah]

Thank you for your insight my friend
Lfi

another ?
Moriah,

What do you know about the numbers 111 and 1111. I've been seeing these numbers alot. What are your thoughts on this? I like your profile; seer.
 
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