Score book

[MoreCoffee]

Makes sense? Please, explain how it makes sense.

Here's how it works.

1 John 1:5-10 GNB

(5) Now the message that we have heard from his Son and announce is this: God is light, and there is no darkness at all in him.
(6) If, then, we say that we have fellowship with him, yet at the same time live in the darkness, we are lying both in our words and in our actions.
(7) But if we live in the light---just as he is in the light---then we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from every sin.
(8) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and there is no truth in us.
(9) But if we confess our sins to God, he will keep his promise and do what is right: he will forgive us our sins and purify us from all our wrongdoing.
(10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make a liar out of God, and his word is not in us.​

Read all the verses including the last two

God be with you as you read.

 

[Steeno7]

Here's how it works.

1 John 1:5-10 GNB

(5) Now the message that we have heard from his Son and announce is this: God is light, and there is no darkness at all in him.
(6) If, then, we say that we have fellowship with him, yet at the same time live in the darkness, we are lying both in our words and in our actions.
(7) But if we live in the light---just as he is in the light---then we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from every sin.
(8) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and there is no truth in us.
(9) But if we confess our sins to God, he will keep his promise and do what is right: he will forgive us our sins and purify us from all our wrongdoing.
(10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make a liar out of God, and his word is not in us.​

Thats how what works?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Thats how what works?

I think you'll figure it out if you go back and read the posts that came before this one

 

[Steeno7]

I think you'll figure it out if you go back and read the posts that came before this one

IOW, you're just throwing out stuff hoping something sticks. Got it.

 

[MoreCoffee]

IOW, you're just throwing out stuff hoping something sticks. Got it.

No, I was hoping that you'd take the trouble to go back and review what we've said and what our brother GratiaCorpusChristi said.

 

[~Anastasia~]

Love is patient and kind; it is not jealous or conceited or proud; love is not ill-mannered or selfish or irritable; love does not keep a record of wrongs; love is not happy with evil, but is happy with the truth. (1 Corinthians 13:4-6 GNB)

Keeping score is one of many ways to abandon love for the brethren and thus to abandon love for God. Throw away that score book.

This is a great Scripture, and you make a good point.

When I find myself upset with someone, and especially if I make any move at all in my mind to count up grievances or the reason why I am upset with them, I am reminded of this verse.

We are commanded to love. Keeping a list, mental or otherwise, of the wrongs peoples people do against us, is not love, according to the Scriptural definition here. So .... we are commanded NOT to do it.

This has been very helpful in marriage.

 

[Steeno7]

No, I was hoping that you'd take the trouble to go back and review what we've said and what our brother GratiaCorpusChristi said.

What's to review? My memory is fine. I was hoping you would actually explain how what he said made sense.

 

[MoreCoffee]

What's to review? My memory is fine. I was hoping you would actually explain how what he said made sense.

I don't see any part that doesn't make sense so if you are willing please tell me what part or parts do not make sense to you?

He said:

God keeps no record of our sins because we are repentant. If we seek forgiveness, the forgiveness is ours. But God does not forgive those who are not repentant.​

 

[Steeno7]

I don't see any part that doesn't make sense so if you are willing please tell me what part or parts do not make sense to you?

He said:

God keeps no record of our sins because we are repentant. If we seek forgiveness, the forgiveness is ours. But God does not forgive those who are not repentant.​

As it relates to the passage you yourself referenced in the OP which states that love keeps no record of wrongs....none of it makes sense.

 

[MoreCoffee]

As it relates to the passage you yourself referenced in the OP which states that love keeps no record of wrongs....none of it makes sense.

The OP is about people, didn't I explain that to you back around post #10?

 

[Steeno7]

The OP is about people, didn't I explain that to you back around post #10?

People who if they love others will keep no record of their wrongs, just like God, correct? But now, you're saying God does keep a record of others wrongs, which effects not only our own record keeping, but the very character of God Himself.

Here's the deal. If love keeps no record of wrongs, but you say there are some for whom God does keep a record of their wrongs, then you are saying there are some whom God does not love...and likewise some we should not love as well. That's the only sensible conclusion a sensible person could come to.

 

[MoreCoffee]

It's time for me to go to Church to do some accounts and to pray and to ask God's mercy and forgiveness for the things I haven't done that I ought and for the things I have done that I ought not.

 

[Steeno7]

It's time for me to go to Church to do some accounts and to pray and to ask God's mercy and forgiveness for the things I haven't done that I ought and for the things I have done that I ought not.

Did you make a record of all of those? Will God have those recorded as well?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Did you make a record of all of those? Will God have those recorded as well?

nope, I didn't, that's why it is a general confession of sins. One doesn't need to get into details. Do you ever examine your conduct and conscience before God?

 

[Steeno7]

nope, I didn't, that's why it is a general confession of sins. One doesn't need to get into details. Do you ever examine your conduct and conscience before God?

A kinda of all inclusive forgive me for everything, eh? That outta cover it, I guess.

 

[MoreCoffee]

A kinda of all inclusive forgive me for everything, eh? That outta cover it, I guess.

You didn't answer my question. Let me ask again.

Do you ever examine your conduct and conscience before God?

 

[Steeno7]

You didn't answer my question. Let me ask again.

Do you ever examine your conduct and conscience before God?

Your right, I didn't answer it. That's between my Lord Jesus and myself.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Your right, I didn't answer it. That's between my Lord Jesus and myself.

Does that mean you don't sin or that you don't ask for forgiveness when you do sin?

 

[Steeno7]

Does that mean you don't sin or that you don't ask for forgiveness when you do sin?

It doesn't mean I am sinless nor does it mean I would insult Jesus by asking Him for what I already have in Him.

 

[MoreCoffee]

It doesn't mean I am sinless nor does it mean I would insult Jesus by asking Him for what I already have in Him.

So, if I have read your replies correctly, your position is that all of your sins, past, present, and future are already forgiven so you need never ask the Lord to forgive you now that you're saved, is that right?

By the way, this thread is about people keeping a record of wrongs be they doctrinal or practical ....