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Scientists Confirm: Darwinism Is Broken

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FULL ARTICLE: Scientists Confirm: Darwinism Is Broken

Interesting quotes from the article:

"The three-day conference at the Royal Society in London was remarkable in confirming something that advocates of intelligent design (ID), a controversial scientific alternative to evolution, have said for years. ID proponents point to a chasm that divides how evolution and its evidence are presented to the public, and how scientists themselves discuss it behind closed doors and in technical publications. This chasm has been well hidden from laypeople, yet it was clear to anyone who attended the Royal Society conference, as did a number of ID-friendly scientists."


"The opening presentation at the Royal Society by one of those world-class biologists, Austrian evolutionary theorist Gerd Müller, underscored exactly Meyer’s contention. Dr. Müller opened the meeting by discussing several of the fundamental "explanatory deficits" of “the modern synthesis,” that is, textbook neo-Darwinian theory. According to Müller, the as yet unsolved problems include those of explaining:

  • Phenotypic complexity (the origin of eyes, ears, body plans, i.e., the anatomical and structural features of living creatures);
  • Phenotypic novelty, i.e., the origin of new forms throughout the history of life (for example, the mammalian radiation some 66 million years ago, in which the major orders of mammals, such as cetaceans, bats, carnivores, enter the fossil record, or even more dramatically, the Cambrian explosion, with most animal body plans appearing more or less without antecedents); and finally
  • Non-gradual forms or modes of transition, where you see abrupt discontinuities in the fossil record between different types."


"In “Darwin’s Doubt,” for example, Meyer emphasized the obvious importance of genetic and other (i.e., epigenetic) types of information to building novel phenotypic traits and forms of life. The new mechanisms offered by the critics of neo-Darwinism at the conference – whether treated as part of an extended neo-Darwinian synthesis or as the basis of a fundamentally new theory of evolution – did not attempt to explain how the information necessary to generating genuine novelty might have arisen. Instead, the mechanisms that were discussed produce at best minor microevolutionary changes, such as changes in wing coloration of butterflies or the celebrated polymorphisms of stickleback fish."



"James Shapiro’s talk, clearly one of the most interesting of the conference, highlighted this difficulty in its most fundamental form. Shapiro presented fascinating evidence showing, contra neo-Darwinism, the non-random nature of many mutational processes – processes that allow organisms to respond to various environmental challenges or stresses. The evidence he presented suggests that many organisms possess a kind of pre-programmed adaptive capacity – a capacity that Shapiro has elsewhere described as operating under “algorithmic control.” Yet, neither Shapiro, nor anyone else at the conference, attempted to explain how the information inherent in such algorithmic control or pre-programmed capacity might have originated."
 
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"In “Darwin’s Doubt,” for example, Meyer emphasized the obvious importance of genetic and other (i.e., epigenetic) types of information to building novel phenotypic traits and forms of life. The new mechanisms offered by the critics of neo-Darwinism at the conference – whether treated as part of an extended neo-Darwinian synthesis or as the basis of a fundamentally new theory of evolution – did not attempt to explain how the information necessary to generating genuine novelty might have arisen. Instead, the mechanisms that were discussed produce at best minor microevolutionary changes, such as changes in wing coloration of butterflies or the celebrated polymorphisms of stickleback fish."
Which is to say, what the scientists were discussing at the conference(*) had next to nothing to do with the claims of ID proponents. The scientists are debating specific evolutionary mechanisms, as they have been for many decades. Most ID proponents, on the other hand, either claim that no evolutionary mechanism can explain evolutionary change, or that different species aren't even related to one another -- something the scientists would find simply ludicrous.

(*) With the possible exception of Shapiro, who's quite far out in left field and has persuaded very few scientists.
 
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Looking at the time stamps, it seems that he actually posted this one first, then the other one minutes later. Since the other one was in a more popular area, it was thoroughly refuted within minutes (such as in post #16, there). While this one is only getting a few hits.

If anyone wants to see the pwning on the other thread, it's here:
Scientists Confirm: Darwinism Is Broken

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Looking at the time stamps, it seems that he actually posted this one first, then the other one minutes later. Since the other one was in a more popular area, it was thoroughly refuted within minutes (such as in post #16, there). While this one is only getting a few hits.

If anyone wants to see the pwning on the other thread, it's here:
Scientists Confirm: Darwinism Is Broken

In Christ-

Papias
My mistake. Still a common enough tactic.
 
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