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Science Title of the Month: October 2020

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by sesquiterpene, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. sesquiterpene

    sesquiterpene Active Member

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    File under: Cross-disciplinary
    Can Traditional Chinese Medicine provide insights into controlling the COVID-19 pandemic: Serpentinization-induced lithospheric long-wavelength magnetic anomalies in Proterozoic bedrocks in a weakened geomagnetic field mediate the aberrant transformation of biogenic molecules in COVID-19 via magnetic catalysis - ScienceDirect
     
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  2. Tinker Grey

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    Good grief
     
  3. Brightmoon

    Brightmoon Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.

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    That almost sounds comical but the virus causes blood clots and it might be due to micro lithification of iron compounds. This MIGHT just might , make sense if it’s tested for more. Other than that I don’t have an opinion other than it sounds vaguely , very vaguely plausible. The jade bracelet stuff , meh
     
  4. Ophiolite

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    I'm sure it will receive strong support from President Trump, who has very likely funded the research via one of his many charitable organisations (directed through Russian subsidiaries to avoid sycophantic publicity).
     
  5. Ophiolite

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    Yes it is the reference to long wavelength magnetic anaomalies and traditional Chinese jade amulets that screams woo to me.
     
  6. Brightmoon

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    There’s a woman called sienna 678 who needs help badly , please help
     
  7. sesquiterpene

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    How can we help?
     
  8. Brightmoon

    Brightmoon Apes and humans are all in family Hominidae.

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    I was just advised that this was a scam
     
  9. Quid est Veritas?

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    Best line in the entire study:

    "It is posited that Jade (including Nephrite) amulets protect the wearer against unseen nefarious forces that cause disease in thoracic organs."

    Well, I am convinced. I'll order my full Jade PPE right now:

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  10. Ophiolite

    Ophiolite Recalcitrant Procrastinating Ape

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    I've tried this, but it just left me feeling jaded.
     
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  11. Hans Blaster

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    I'm thinking maybe there is a few journals we don't need.
     
  12. Brightmoon

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    I don’t think it’s the journals so much , creationists have been trying to hijack control over what gets published for a while . If they can discredit science journals people won’t trust them .
     
  13. sesquiterpene

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    I don't think creationists have anything to do with this. The YECs have their own journals which they publish in, and nobody reads. The IDCreationists also have their own journal, which nobody reads because nobody publishes in it.
     
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    That's what quackery depends upon.
     
  15. Quid est Veritas?

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    I don't think this is an attempt to discredit the journals. The Chinese are touchy on their traditional medicines and such, so they often sponsor dubious things out of a sense of nationalist pride. Investigating the effects of magnetic fields on the microbiome seems legitimate research, but the ringing endorsement of Jade amulets on flimsy grounds, seems to cater to a specific Jingoistic chip on the shoulder that China often now exhibits. The question is cui bono, and I am sure you'll find quasi-state Chinese entities amongst the financial sponsors thereof.
     
  16. sesquiterpene

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    Where in the world did that come from? I think your own prejudices are showing here. The primary author is an African-American working at the University of Pittsburgh, and has apparently been bonkers for quite some time. He has his own Theory of Everything, and is just waiting for the scientific community to replace Einstein with himself.
    Moses Turkle Bility
    https://www.academia.edu/41280206
    Also:
    /Stonehenge_as_a_public_health_intervention_device_for_preventing_lithospheric_magnetic_field_induced_emerging_diseases_and_megadeath_during_periods_of_severely_weakened_geomagnetic_field
    No evil Chinese conspiracy to be seen.
     
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  17. Quid est Veritas?

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    China has been paying Westerners to study their traditional medicines for quite some time, and has been supporting very dodgy research in so doing - while thoroughly institutionalising quackery in that regard in China itself. This seems more of the same. Consider it my prejudice if you will, but the endorsement of Jade Amulets seem very suspect. I do not think it would be hard for China to find a home grown Western quacksalver - birds of a feather.

    Is China the World Leader in Biomedical Fraud?

    China is promoting coronavirus treatments based on unproven traditional medicines

    https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeli...re-chinese-traditional-medicine-unfortunately

    Why China’s traditional medicine boom is dangerous
     
  18. sesquiterpene

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    Well, we have one vote for evil creationists and one vote for the evil Chinese. But given the Stonehenge connection and the fact that this article clearly mocks Chinese Traditional Medicine, it's obviously a disinformation operation by MI6.
     
  19. Quid est Veritas?

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    I must have missed where it mocks Chinese Traditional Medicine in between its endorsement of Jade Amulets, saying how insightful it is, and how we should be investigating its 'nefarious forces' hypothesis. I also do not see what relevance the Stonehenge article has at all here. But, okay.

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