Science Proves Creation

[HARK!]

That's the problem absolute time doesn't exist even on a planetary scale let alone on the scale of a universe.

No time, no motion. No motion, no matter.

 

[Shemjaza]

No time, no motion. No motion, no matter.

But time is not absolute, so how can you make absolute inferences from it?

 

[sjastro]

It just appears that way, since I hold science to a Higher Standard than you do.

Used as God intended it, science is wonderful and a blessing.

Any other use -- such as for the love of money, or to get your name in lights, or to compare one nation's level of technology to another's, or whatever -- is not of God.

What a load of complete utter rubbish.
You do not conform to a higher standard as you are a petty minded individual who sees science as an attack on your faith and takes every opportunity to denigrate it while conveniently ignoring the benefits science has given you.

 

[Astrid]

As usual my point isn't getting through.
You are just as bad as the science you continuously criticize by sponging off the technological benefits gained through science.

" the fantasy version of science'

 

[AV1611VET]

What a load of complete utter rubbish.
You do not conform to a higher standard as you are a petty minded individual who sees science as an attack on your faith and takes every opportunity to denigrate it while conveniently ignoring the benefits science has given you.

It's a shame that you can't see a compliment to your scientific discipline (astronomy?).

As they say: Is the glass half-empty or half-full?

 

[sjastro]

It's a shame that you can't see a compliment to your scientific discipline (astronomy?).

As they say: Is the glass half-empty or half-full?

Astronomy has never been and never will be my scientific discipline.
Finding the cause and countermeasure for Toyota Camry headlights turning on automatically does not involve astronomy.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Astronomy has never been and never will be my scientific discipline.
Finding the cause and countermeasure for Toyota Camry headlights turning on automatically does not involve astronomy.

Now a Subaru on the other hand...

 

[AV1611VET]

Astronomy has never been and never will be my scientific discipline.
Finding the cause and countermeasure for Toyota Camry headlights turning on automatically does not involve astronomy.

Sorry.

I forgot about that.

My bad.

 

[sjastro]

Now a Subaru on the other hand...

The first question that most often comes to peoples mind is why is a car company involved with telescopes? The answer, which usually results in an "oh really" response, is that the Subaru Telescope Project is not owned by Subaru Automobile but rather the Japanese Government through NAOJ, the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan which is headquartered at Mitaka.

The confusion comes from the word Subaru, which is the Japanese word for the star cluster known as the Pleiades. The car company sharing the name also uses the star cluster as the logo on their line of cars.

 

[Bradskii]

I wouldn't need to call a scientist as I is one. If someone damaged my crop and called losses, I would call the police. Alternatively, I might sell access to my newly spiffed up field.

If you build it, they will come...

 

[driewerf]

It just appears that way, since I hold science to a Higher Standard than you do.

No, you don't. You put science below a myth book that has zero inframyve value, see your infamous "boolean standards"
I use a set of Boolean standards:

1. Bible says X, science says X = go with X
2. Bible says X, science says Y = go with X
3. Bible says Ø, science says Y = go with Y
4. Bible says Ø, science says Ø = speculate

And there where you go with science, you just do that on authority, not because of that what drives science: study, evidence and critical evaluation.

I'll give you mu "boolean standards", that I have posted in the past:

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
Driewerf: ignore the bible, study and evaluate x

2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
Driewerf: ignore the bible, study and evaluate y

3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
Driewerf: ignore the bible, start a research project.

4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with ø
Driewerf: ignore the bible, study and evaluate x

5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = it's not worth dwelling on
Driewerf: ignore the bible, start a research project.

That is the higher standard.

 

[AV1611VET]

4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with ø
Driewerf: ignore the bible, study and evaluate x

You got #4 wrong.

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, you don't.

Yes, actually, I do.

You put science below a myth book that has zero inframyve value,

Zero what value?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I unironically miss guys like dad and xianghua. They at least made these forums more interesting.

 

[Shemjaza]

I unironically miss guys like dad and xianghua. They at least made these forums more interesting.

Yes and no.

They had interesting things to say, but ultimately they weren't really able to acknowledge any kind of misunderstanding in their posts and would just repeat themselves and think they'd cleared up the confusion.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Yes and no.

They had interesting things to say, but ultimately they weren't really able to acknowledge any kind of misunderstanding in their posts and would just repeat themselves and think they'd cleared up the confusion.

No, but they made it more fun, and especially with newer members being exposed, that would make it much more fun to witness. Now it's just AV repeating himself again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again....

 

[Astrid]

No, but they made it more fun, and especially with newer members being exposed, that would make it much more fun to witness. Now it's just AV repeating himself again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again....

True. Makes for most boring poster ever

 

[dlamberth]

True. Makes for most boring poster ever

I enjoyed both. They created dialog.

 

[Astrid]

I enjoyed both. They created dialog.

You may amue' se easier than me.

In all events i was referencing mr time after time after

I enjoyed both. They created dialog.

I enjoyed both. They created dialog.

You amuse easier than me

 

[AV1611VET]

In all events i was referencing mr time after time after.

My points don't change with the weather.

My standards apply today, just as they applied when I joined.

Here they are again:

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.