And when others pointed out that the meaning has been changed over time and it actually has several meanings, you objected.I never said that. I said the term "Universe" has a single meaning.
Try to keep up.
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And when others pointed out that the meaning has been changed over time and it actually has several meanings, you objected.I never said that. I said the term "Universe" has a single meaning.
So because you say it, that makes it true? All that I ask is that you provide a dictionary definition, as I haveAnd when others pointed out that the meaning has been changed over time and it actually has several meanings, you objected.
Try to keep up.
That's your schtick, not mine. You'll notice that I have been able to support all my arguments. You? Not so much.So because you say it, that makes it true?
Others already provided alternate definitions.All that I ask is that you provide a dictionary definition, as I have
Only in a limited space.Again, the empirical evidence. Have you ever looked at the night sky? There are a limited number of stars. This limits the amount of visible light. Again EMR radiates in three dimensions. Stars have a limited life span. If there were unlimited stars stars; there would be unlimited light, therefore light gain; until all of the stars had reached their lifespan. Even then, visible light would continue to travel through the entirety of infinite space. This is not the case. EMR cannot be infinite, while simultaneously finite; as it would violate the LNC.
So, you are treating space as infinite and changeless... when it is demonstrably anything but.
On Post #96 I provided a link to an outside source that support my claim that Universe means "all that exists". Which post # did you provide an outside source to support your claim that this is no longer the definition?That's your schtick, not mine. You'll notice that I have been able to support all my arguments. You? Not so much.
Others already provided alternate definitions.
@Bungle_Bear 's claim is validated implicitly by the usage of universe, universes and multiverse in this paper.On Post #96 I provided a link to an outside source that support my claim that Universe means "all that exists". Which post # did you provide an outside source to support your claim that this is no longer the definition?
On Post #96 I provided a link to an outside source that support my claim that Universe means "all that exists". Which post # did you provide an outside source to support your claim that this is no longer the definition?
That is one argument you supported. But since I didn't say you haven't supported any of your arguments it's not really countering my point. You have made many assertions and failed to back them up with any form of support.On Post #96 I provided a link to an outside source that support my claim that Universe means "all that exists".
I do not need to provide links where others have already provided them.Which post # did you provide an outside source to support your claim that this is no longer the definition?
?????????????Only in a limited space.
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Seriously? This is your refutation? My argument was built on unlimited space, not on limited space. Even the counterargument didn't include limited space.
So what's on the other side of limited space? Is Trump building a wall to keep it out; so then we can all live in our own little world?
If others have provided links that says "All that exist" is no longer the definition of Universe, I'm sure you would have provided it by now.I do not need to provide links where others have already provided them.
For goodness sake, there are several posts directed specifically at you offering alternate definitions and at least one post offering a link.If others have provided links that says "All that exist" is no longer the definition of Universe, I'm sure you would have provided it by now.
I think it was post #172, you did.For goodness sake, there are several posts directed specifically at you offering alternate definitions and at least one post offering a link.
And let's be very clear - at no stage has anyone denied that one definition of universe is "all that exists".
Your exact words wereThat canard is a dishonest twisting of facts by you. We have simply said universe has more than one meaning.
I did not say it no longer has a valid definition of "all that exists". That is your misrepresentation of my post.I think it was post #172, you did.
Your exact words were
Have you ever thought the dictionary definition may need updating? Words can change meaning over time.
IOW you basically said the definition has changed.
You have just supported my point while trying to pretend you have refuted it. If you cannot see how just say so. My suggestion to you is to stop digging, you're only making yourself look more and more foolish.Yes I noticed according to the link provided, some use the term Universe to mean Galaxy, but they aren't the same; the Universe is much bigger it contains all of the galaxies.
Solar System, Galaxy, Universe: What's the Difference? | Night Sky Network
And your argument is flawed.?????????????
Seriously? This is your refutation? My argument was built on unlimited space, not on limited space. Even the counterargument didn't include limited space.
The shape of space time doesn't have to be flat. Think about about an element able to move freely in two dimensions but is on a surface of a sphere... no walls necessary, but limited space.So what's on the other side of limited space? Is Trump building a wall to keep it out; so then we can all live in our own little world?
But that doesn't necessarily mean earlier definitions have fallen out of use.I think it was post #172, you did.
Your exact words were
Have you ever thought the dictionary definition may need updating? Words can change meaning over time.
IOW you basically said the definition has changed.
Yes, and words can have more than one meaning all the time. But I don't understand why you are making a big to-do over a trivial issue. If your argument (whatever it turns out to be) requires a particular definition of "universe" then specify it and move forward.Yes I noticed according to the link provided, some use the term Universe to mean Galaxy, but they aren't the same; the Universe is much bigger it contains all of the galaxies.
Solar System, Galaxy, Universe: What's the Difference? | Night Sky Network
What's the difference betweenBut that doesn't necessarily mean earlier definitions have fallen out of use.
It appears that you are missing the option that both are possible. For example, "spin" means to revolve or twirl. It also denotes a property of fundamental particles which does not necessarily involve literal twirling. It can also mean using a spinning wheel, a definition which is no longer much used.What's the difference between
a. Words change meaning over time
b. The earlier definition has fallen out of use
Perhaps I'm missing something.