Science falsely so called documentary

[Bungle_Bear]

Wow. That's a pretty messed up interpretation. Where did you get that from? Doesn't sound like any of the science I've learned.

Thankfully it's an interpretation restricted to a small number of ill-informed, American religious fundamentalists.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So evolution is always an improvement of the species?

That is a poorly formed question. It is only an "improvement" in an greater chance of surviving the current environment that the species exists in.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That is a poorly formed question. It is only an "improvement" in an greater chance of surviving the current environment that the species exists in.

I was responding to a poorly formed statement, to wit: How does evolution anticipate the needs of the species it is changing? How does it form "beneficial" changes, and how does it do this in a timely manner if the needed for change is millions of years in the future?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I was responding to a poorly formed statement, to wit: How does evolution anticipate the needs of the species it is changing? How does it form "beneficial" changes, and how does it do this in a timely manner if the needed for change is millions of years in the future?

No you weren't. At least not in regards to my posts.

And your question is still poorly formed. You have an incorrect assumption as part of your question. Leading questions are not proper questions.

Try again.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No you weren't. At least not in regards to my posts.

And your question is still poorly formed. You have an incorrect assumption as part of your question. Leading questions are not proper questions.

Try again.

I'll let it go (save both of us time better spent).

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'll let it go (save both of us time better spent).

Or you could try to learn.

You seem to think that there is a goal to evolution, or that somehow it "plans ahead". That is not the case. When you start with false assumptions you can only ask poorly formed questions.

 

[PaoloPorini1972]

I was responding to a poorly formed statement, to wit: How does evolution anticipate the needs of the species it is changing?

Who says it does? As I understand it evolution is just change that happens. If it proves to be beneficial it will preferentially be passed along. If it is negative and it does it's damage before the genes can be passed forward it cease to be.

Natural selection acts as a kind of passive filter that weeds out those things which are mal-adaptive, especially if they impact the ability to pass the genes along.

 

[DogmaHunter]

How do 'individual' changes spread through a population?

Through reproduction and the associated genetic inheritance.

So, through reproductive success.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

So evolution is always an improvement of the species?

No. Whether an evolutionary change is an improvement or not depends entirely on its success in the population in the local environment. Many changes can be a serious disadvantage for a few individuals, but help protect many others from problems (e.g. sickle cell trait). If the environment changes rapidly, an evolutionary advantage may be negated or become a disadvantage.

Most evolutionary changes seem to be neutral, having no significant effect on population success. These changes are what is called 'genetic drift', random variations in the in the distribution of gene alleles from one generation to the next.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I was responding to a poorly formed statement, to wit: How does evolution anticipate the needs of the species it is changing?

It doesn't.

Instead, natural selection just filters the random mutations by what works and what doesn't.

That's kind of the whole point...........................

How does it form "beneficial" changes, and how does it do this in a timely manner if the needed for change is millions of years in the future?

Evolution is about the here and now. About what works today.

 

[Jimmy D]

Wow. That's a pretty messed up interpretation. Where did you get that from? Doesn't sound like any of the science I've learned.

Believe it or not, it's all in the video. Not that I'd recommend that you watch it... I skimmed through it and could feel my IQ dropping, something I can ill afford, but I thought I'd take one for the team.

 

[Brightmoon]

So individuals don't change at the genomic level and pass those traits on unless millions of others do so at the same time (keeping in mind that evolution doesn't always improve a species)?

unless that individual is part of a population then they won’t pass on their genes. Evolution is about a population’s gene pool which is why evolution is defined as changes in allele frequency in a population

 

[tas8831]

Propaganda potential? Are you not able to discern between what is fact and what is not? The documentary is made through donations, there is no profit motive.

How did you discern what is fact and what is not.. in a video?

 

[tas8831]

The evidence of special creation is overwhelming. No need for yet another presentation to convince.

Isn't it perplexing then that you seem 100% unable to present even one example that is not premised on your ignorance of the relevant science.

Molecules = tissues?
Gut sends motor impulses to the larynx by design?


LOL!

 

[tas8831]

Evolution is the most evil theory ever devised.....

Aw, you poor thing!

Oh - have you figgered' out how an identical breeding pair's offspring became Asians and Africans and Norsefolk and Inuuit and such with no mutation in less than 6000 years while surviving a 4-breeding pair bottleneck less than 5000 years ago?

 

[tas8831]

It gets children to believe they are more evolved than others and have the right to shoot them in the head...... after all, they are just animals and it is survival of the fittest.....

All these years pretending, and you still are either ignorant of basic evolutionary concepts, or are purposefully lying about them.

To believe in evolution, then believe one human can not evolve into a better human than another would be contradictory, yes?

No, just stupid.

Better to believe in that the unoriginal tall tales told by middle eastern numerologists and mystics are totally true and that only 1 'people' on earth are 'chosen' by this tribal deity...

 

[tas8831]

So individuals don't change at the genomic level and pass those traits on unless millions of others do so at the same time (keeping in mind that evolution doesn't always improve a species)?

LOL!

Oh, right - you have admitted that you cannot understand evolution, yet feel confident enough in your admitted ignorance to try to pontificate.

I will never understand the weird egos of the creationist.

 

[tas8831]

The geologic record agrees with the biblical pattern of ruin/restoration.

And you base that proclamation on your vast knowledge if geology, right?

 

[tas8831]

I was responding to a poorly formed statement, to wit: How does evolution anticipate the needs of the species it is changing? How does it form "beneficial" changes, and how does it do this in a timely manner if the needed for change is millions of years in the future?

You simply are incapable of understanding the reality that contradicts your religious brainwashing.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

You simply are incapable of understanding the reality that contradicts your religious brainwashing.

No need for religion. Just read any book on anatomy. The complexity and elegance bespeaks design and purpose; elements missing in evolution.