Satan's Downfall (Beginning)

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYlXCNZB0KI

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

the "free will" version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeCf0oEpHWM

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Responding to people who try to put their words in my mouth and then attack their own strawman is far from "flaming" so perhaps your own judgment is a little skewed?

Did you, or did you not, utter these words:

The children of the devil however will RESIST this understanding to their dying breath...just as God Intended...

In this way I know my brothers and sisters in The Lord...and I also discern 'our enemies.'

Did you, or did you not, by those words intend to indicate that all those who did not adhere to the POV you elucidated just prior to those statements constitute "children of the devil" and thus your "enemies."

Answer clearly and without guile, and stop trying to throw dust in the eyes of someone who seeks civil discourse and who recognizes the REALITY that NO human mind can EVER claim 100% perfect infallible "God's eye view" truth equivalent to the absolute infallible Mind of God Himself.

 

[squint]

Did you, or did you not, utter these words

Try dealing with post content. It would be more profitable. I won't bother reciting your "mis-statements" or your "false accusations."

Did you, or did you not, by those words intend to indicate that all those who did not adhere to the POV you elucidated just prior to those statements constitute "children of the devil" and thus your "enemies."

Uh, did I say mankind were DEVILS...?

No. That may be what "you" heard but I did not say THAT...so do the math before you LEAP.

We are not advised to "love" the devil.

Answer clearly and without guile, and stop trying to throw dust in the eyes of someone who seeks civil discourse and who recognizes the REALITY that NO human mind can EVER claim 100% perfect infallible "God's eye view" truth equivalent to the absolute infallible Mind of God Himself.

whatever...

you comin' up with that Satanic salvation scripture anytime soon?

lol

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Squint, please just answer these two questions. A simple yes or no to each question will suffice.

Did you, or did you not, utter these words:

The children of the devil however will RESIST this understanding to their dying breath...just as God Intended...

In this way I know my brothers and sisters in The Lord...and I also discern 'our enemies.'

Did you, or did you not, by those words, intend to indicate that all those who did not adhere to the POV you elucidated just prior to those statements constitute "children of the devil" and thus your "enemies."

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Assertion without substance does not equate to a begging the question presentation.

You missed the point entirely.

Scripture addresses this. "All things" are made for Gods Pleasure. So evil, Satan---any "thing" that "is" is by Him and for Him.
Slice that down from there however you like.

Why would God create any "thing?" Presumably for His Pleasure eh?

You missed the point entirely. The point of its post bes not to actually POSE the questions your previously stated POV would raise, but simply to respond to your question that it clarify what it meant by stating that raising your POV, rather than answering the questions raised by the OP, simply swaps them out for a different set of questions altogether.

 

[squint]

Squint, please just answer these two questions. A simple yes or no to each question will suffice.

Did you, or did you not, utter these words:
Did you, or did you not, by those words, intend to indicate that all those who did not adhere to the POV you elucidated just prior to those statements constitute "children of the devil" and thus your "enemies."

Absolutely YES. The "devils" were made to RESIST God and that seems to be what "they" do eh?

Since my "POV" bears no ill to my neighbors in any way forms of "offense" you may perceive are not available.

 

[CaDan]

Let's try to keep the personal shots down to a minimum, 'kay?

 

[squint]

You missed the point entirely.


You missed the point entirely. The point of its post bes not to actually POSE the questions your previously stated POV would raise, but simply to respond to your question that it clarify what it meant by stating that raising your POV, rather than answering the questions raised by the OP, simply swaps them out for a different set of questions altogether.

But you see that remains a mere "assertion" without specific content or critique.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Absolutely YES. The "devils" were made to RESIST God and that seems to be what "they" do eh?

Since my "POV" bears no ill to my neighbors in any way forms of "offense" you may perceive are not available.

That bes not what this one perceived from your lengthy elaboration on your POV. However, it bes willing to drop the matter at this point to retain the possibility of keeping this thread on topic (or returning it there). In exchange it asks that you cease responding to this one with an inflammatory, hostile and accusatory manner, or if you cannot conduct yourself properly, to please leave the thread so the rest of us may discuss the subject in peace. It asks you this as a concession to its own weakness in that it has no capacity to restrain itself from reaction to provocation so it asks you to bear responsibility for not furnishing any, please. Thank you.

 

[icedtea]

Where are these scriptures which imply this?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Sorry HD, this one generally only shares such things when the atmosphere bes right and when the Spirit of God opens the way before it. These bes sacred matters, not up to Moriah to dispense, because Moriah may not unseal the Seven Thunders by herself, she has not that power. It bes His power only.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

But you see that remains a mere "assertion" without specific content or critique.

Already answered this in a previous post. Can you please stop taking a hostile tone with this one. Unless it bes mistaken, this bes theology, not the debate section. There bes no mandate to follow someone's notion of "formal debate structure" here, correct?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

[staff edit]

 

[icedtea]

We shall just continue with a productive discussion then.

 

[Gwenyfur]

and again for clarity:

knock it off!!!

Address the TOPIC
not the POSTER

Any further personal attacks and/or remarks addressed to another member will result in thread closure...


Crystal?​

 

[LogosRhema]

So you made an assertion without a point, which I pointed out as such...soooo what?

Ephesians 4:29:

29Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

By your sarcastic and "so what" tone... your words have become more of a discouraging message and by your words you may have insulted Moriah. Other members of this conversation are able to agree with me.

In love and with a tone met to be of an encouragement so we all can better ourselves in the name of Christ. So, if you could, Moriah and everyone else included, remember this verse before we start to say anything that would not be insulting or mean to hear?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

This one has not said anything insulting or mean.

 

[Akathist]

Last warning. Stick to the topic and do not make remarks about each other. Thread is closed for an hour to make sure we change the tone in here.

 

[Akathist]

Thread is reopened. Stick to the topic now.