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Bellicus · Oct 15, 2008

Hi thanks for the tips and the prayers. When I went to bed yesterday I were reading in Romans that: "Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ". And I have never really been thinking about it earlier, but I got a "wow"-experience and figured out that I actually am righteous because of my faith, not because of my actions. So to say it extreme: I am perfect. No matter what I do, or have done: I can't be better.

And I am still thinking like that today, and I feel better, so maybe it was your prayer that helped.

Ariel · Oct 15, 2008

Wow Bellicus, what a lovely revelation the Lord gave you!

Yes, in Christ we are perfect--absolutely and completely. We are justified by faith, Romans 5:1. Legally nothing can be held against us--all the things against us have been taken out of the way, and nailed to the cross, Colossians 2:14.

And then--and I just love this--God gets to work on us. We are at the same time perfect and being made perfect. I love the Greek word here, "teleios," (TEL ay os), which means perfect in every way, mature, complete. God is doing this in us! He is making us perfect and complete in every way! Moreover, He will continue this process until we see Christ, Phil. 1:6. God is so amazing.

Everytime we get into His presence, His glory touches us and changes us, 2 Cor. 3:17-18. Every time we get into His Word, that Scripture changes our soul, Psalm 19:7. More and more as we walk with Him we are being made like Him, 1 John 4:17. The fruit of the Spirit becomes more evident in our lives, Gal. 5:22-23. God is so amazing!

So keep walking in Him, keep going on in Him. Truly, He who has begun a good work in you will be faithful to complete it, Phil. 1:6

Jo1 · Oct 17, 2008

im just feeling real low

Bellicus · Oct 18, 2008

Jo1 said:
im just feeling real low

Hope you get better soon Jo1. God bless you.

HumbleServant94 · Oct 18, 2008

Jo1 said:
Thanks Sarah just noticed this.
Ive been posting all round depression etc, so might as well post in here too!
I feel like I just want to give up you know.
Ive been depressed all my life virtually and this year has just been awful
Im having real probs, and I feel so lonely in it.
I cant really talk in detail here about it, case its not safe to mention
I dont get any emotional support from my church, and it seems like I cant get anymore anywhere else. Which is making me feel very low. I just feel so ashamed to let myself get like this really
I would apreciate any support and prayer.
thanksJo

Dear Heavenly Father,
Help Jo overcome her depression and her problems through your strength and word. Help her get the support she needs in order to make her life better.
in Jesus' name,
Amen

HumbleServant94 · Oct 18, 2008

I'm sick and tired of Christians fighting on this forum. It's insane! We're supposed to be in fellowship and have peace, not fight about opinions. I get enough of it from my friend. I'm also afraid my church might be like Laocidea. That would be bad.

Jo1 · Oct 18, 2008

Bellicus said:
Hope you get better soon Jo1. God bless you.

thankyoubless u

Jo1 · Oct 18, 2008

HumbleServant94 said:
Dear Heavenly Father,
Help Jo overcome her depression and her problems through your strength and word. Help her get the support she needs in order to make her life better.
in Jesus' name,
Amen

thankyoubless u

Bellicus · Oct 18, 2008

HumbleServant94 said:
I'm sick and tired of Christians fighting on this forum. It's insane! We're supposed to be in fellowship and have peace, not fight about opinions. I get enough of it from my friend. I'm also afraid my church might be like Laocidea. That would be bad.

It is good that you see it. I remember from when I started to use this forum there were a Christian that always seem to be very rude and angry in all his posts to me, so I sent him a nice message in his (empty) guest book, and after that it strangely seemed like he changed to the better.

Pro 25:21 If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
22 For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.

Ariel · Oct 18, 2008

HumbleServant94 said:
I'm sick and tired of Christians fighting on this forum. It's insane! We're supposed to be in fellowship and have peace, not fight about opinions. I get enough of it from my friend. I'm also afraid my church might be like Laocidea. That would be bad.

I know what you mean, HS, but not all areas of CF are that way. The Recovery forums, for example, are much more peaceable. Also some of the fellowship forums really have a nice atmosphere. For example, I really like the Assembly of God/Pentecostal forum, and am often a visitor there.

Check around and see if you can't find a forum you like.

Jo1 · Oct 21, 2008

Does anyone struggle with church?
I feel very lonely in mine. My pastor never rings me, or asks how we are.
Perhaps I just expect too much. But it DOES HURT

Especially when your hurting anyway. I know they do their best, and I do forgive them, and love them. But are all churches like this. It just makes me feel like I dont want to bother anymore.

Ariel · Oct 21, 2008

Yes, I have struggled with that too, Jo. I finally found a church where I feel loved and cherished, but it took a while.

You are loved here, though, Jo. So many people care about you.

I love you, and I care about you too. I am praying for you.

(((((hug)))))

Jenster · Oct 24, 2008

I am being tempted to get angry and bitter because someone has spoken against me to others. I can't see clearly and don't know what to do. He clearly feels intimidated by people in authority and has fashioned an identity for himself in which he fancies himself some sort of rebel. Meanwhile, he tries to destroy others by gossip. It's really sad.

Ariel · Oct 25, 2008

Wow, Jenster, I have gone through that too. I am so sorry. (((hug)))

Criada · Oct 25, 2008

Praying, Jen

Jenster · Oct 25, 2008

Thank you, Ariel, Criada. I really appreciate your sympathy. It means a lot. It reminds me that there are good people in the world. You know how it is, sometimes when someone speaks against you, you feel isolated.

Ariel, I hope your situation has resolved itself. Has it? I am trying to practice forgiveness, although I also feel like this person has spread lies, so it's hard to let that stand. Know what I mean? I feel conflicted. I feel like shouting from the rooftops: "No! Don't believe him! You are being deceived!" Who knows, maybe the Lord will provide the opportunity for the truth to come out.

ChristsCourage2 · Oct 25, 2008

Jen, maybe this person was not meant to be your friend. Even if they were a good friend, and, you could share things, and, feel like tr hey were able to understand, maybe it was not meant to be a friendship between you two. If you want my help, I would be glad to help you in any way possible. I do care, and, will pray for you.

Jenster · Oct 25, 2008

Thank you for your note of encouragement, ChristsCourage2. I think it is a word from the Lord, as I had a similar impression (not quite articulated) this afternoon -- that it is best just not be around this person. That way I can live my life and he can live his. I sometimes get rattled by gossip, but I have to remember than my opinion is as strong as his is. I need to value my own opinion, and then there can be peace.

Your prayer is a blessing to me. Many thanks. and PRAISE BE to the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY!

Ariel · Oct 25, 2008

Jenster said:
Thank you, Ariel, Criada. I really appreciate your sympathy. It means a lot. It reminds me that there are good people in the world. You know how it is, sometimes when someone speaks against you, you feel isolated.

Ariel, I hope your situation has resolved itself. Has it? I am trying to practice forgiveness, although I also feel like this person has spread lies, so it's hard to let that stand. Know what I mean? I feel conflicted. I feel like shouting from the rooftops: "No! Don't believe him! You are being deceived!" Who knows, maybe the Lord will provide the opportunity for the truth to come out.

Jen, this is a venting thread, but you asked for advice, so I think I can give it--

I've gone through this several times. I finally went to the Lord about it once--He said something which really helped--He said out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. In other words, often when a person is saying awful things about you what is coming from their mouth is coming out of their heart. Therefore, everything they say about you is far more true about them than it ever is about you. After all, it is coming out of their heart.

I could not vindicate my own self, it was impossible. In the end I had to do exactly what the Word of God tells us to do--and which you talk about, too. I had to forgive--no matter what they said.

Then I gave everything to the Lord. Now here is the interesting part. God upheld me. Every single time I forgave and gave something to God, God upheld me. I went on--I got out of abusive relationships and away from abusive people. I grew and did well. But the people who came against me did not prosper. It was so marked that my husband said at one point that he was sorry for them.

Forgive, and give this to the Lord. It is by far the most powerful thing you can do. Also get away from them. Remember that Jesus didn't hang around the Pharisees when they wanted to kill Him. He went out to the wilderness--and His friends followed Him there. You don't have to hang around an abusive person. It is not wise, and it is not safe. Give this situation to the Lord and let Him handle it.

If you have problems forgiving, I have a blog on that topic which may help.

I am praying for you. I know how much this can hurt. (((hug)))

Jenster · Oct 26, 2008

I'm glad you shared your story, and I apologize for violating the rule of the thread (venting only). I didn't think before I posted! I appreciate that this is a place to vent, without judgment, a safe place. I will honor that by refraining from asking for advice from here on out.

It is inspiring to hear how the Lord upheld you each and every time. We do go through emotions when we are faced with difficult situations, but an earnest petition to the Lord will result in His leading us through. He may even grant us wisdom we didn't have before.

The Lord told me today that my weakness is that I am afraid my opinion doesn't count, but the truth is that IT DOES count. And it is strong and of equal value as another person's opinion. For some reason, this realization really helped me. So what if somebody thinks something about me? My opinion is equal, and in this case, I think this person has problems and I forgive him.

I am feeling better about the situation now. I am happy to keep my distance from him; to my mind, he doesn't exist anymore.

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