Saddam Captured

[Blemonds]

despicable.

but to pretend that is the reason Bush went to war is being dishonest.

Do you remember Bush's speech when he told us the war was starting. Here's the first sentence


My fellow citizens, at this hour American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger.

And you can read the entire speech here;

http://www.warroom.com/iraqiwar/presidentsspeech.htm

 

[The Story Teller]

forgive me for being a skeptic, but if you believe that Bush went to Iraq over the human rights issue, I have to ask what exactly did he do for Liberia?

I believe he went to war over ideology--not out of a love for humanity.


also, the story claims to have been written on the second day of the war, yet said that "the other day", her son asked her why America was at war. Also, I can't find any trace of this story on the Internet before 1 Apr. As I said again, forgive me for being a skeptic.

Datan, I haven't been asked to sit down with the President to discuss these issues. BUT, to answer the first part. It is my belief that the President regrets not stepping in sooner. All the information that goes on each and every day around the world might just slip by at first. It’s not until we have time to sit down and talk about what’s going on do we have a chance to act and react. Being the most powerful nation on Earth the President has to take every country and nation in consideration. Mr. Bush has many, many people telling him all the what ifs. When he has listened to everyone he then has the job of sitting down and making a decision. Does he pray before he make that decision? I don’t know, but I’d hope and pray that he does. And the final decision is his. How can we sit back and second guess him? How dare us sit back and second guess him. Somebody has to do it and President Bush stepped up and because of what he did I feel that I WILL sleep a little better tonight. God Bless you, President Bush…



Now for the second statement you made. The story was written a while back. Was it written the second day of the war? I don’t know and haven’t been able to find out. As you can read it says Author Unknown. Was the story written to support President Bush? Again I don’t know. What I do know is that it states my feelings about the war and what our part in it means better than any words I could ever express. So if you can find anything contrary to it enlighten me.



YFIC,

Richard

 

[ddlewis86]

I just KNEW that SOME people would be a little upset when our military caught up with Saddam.

 

[The Story Teller]

I just KNEW that SOME people would be a little upset when our military caught up with Saddam.

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I pray that tonight God give us all the knowledge to understand this whole situation. That HE enlighten us as to what we as a nation should do next. [/font]

 

[Blemonds]

what rubbish.
all the talk about evil and so on didn't come up until after the war and none of the WMD could be found...

Andlest I forget, here is a quote that Colon Powell made to the UN when making his case for war against Iraq in February this year.

As we sit here, let us not forget the horrors still going on in Iraq, with a spare moment to remember the suffering Iraqi people, whose treasure is spent on these kinds of programs and not for their own benefit; people who are being beaten, brutalized and robbed by Saddam and his regime.

And you can read the whole story here, but then you'll have to stop the disinformation campaign

http://www.avot.org/stories/storyReader$126

 

[Doctrine1st]

You're right about that. That's why we called this Operation Find the WMD. Oh wait, wasn't it called Operation Iraqi FREEDOM. That's right, it was.

Somehow without 9/11 and the premise of terrorism, I don't think we would have went to war with Iraq for humanitarian reasons, and everyone knows that. The argument for war was far different than the title of the operation, they just didn't pull it out of a hat.

This is like rain on a parade for the Democrats. Can you imagine the pitifulness of having to hope that Saddam wouldn't be captured, Osama wouldn't be captured, WMD wouldn't be found and the US economy would tank just so they could win an election. The economy is great, SAdam's in chains, David Kay's report clearly showed evidence of WMD programs and Osama is still free.

I think it is great that he's captured, I just wish:

1) We didn't help prop him up in the first place, and then look the other way or try to blame spmeone else for his mass murders.

2) Same goes for Bin Laden.

3) They actually found all the existing WMD, not remnants of a once existing program, that Powell and Rumsfeld stating to exist to the T. Alot of lives were lost on a will justify it later with hard evidence war.

BTW, the economy is not great there are more Americans who have lost more jobs than under any President we have ever had. No one can feed a family on projections of as recovery. I wish the economy to rebound. I wish the no one is being downsized or is having their job shipped overseas.

The Democrats only have 2 things left on their plate. Osam being free and spin, spin, spin

You mean the war(s) are over and no Americans are dying in Afganistan and Iraq anymore?

I never feared our ability to take Iraq and find Saddam, it's the quagmire we're in now, the one that everyone and their brother warned about, the one that will never have a savagable ending that I measure Bush's performance on. I ask myself I am better off now, I'm I safer, No. I am more economically secure, No. I am I even payin less taxes, No.

 

[The Simple Plan]

Hello. Just poking me nose in.

It is good that Saddam has been captured and arrested and will be tried in front of his countrymen which wihtout a doubt he has been found guilty already.

Although I don't agree with war, one of the things that disarmed me with the nature of the first post is that SOME americans tend to forget that in almost every major post war conflict ('cept Vietnam) the British have been right up there fighting along side. Indeed Tony Blair has in many respects - even to the detriment of his stance in the UK - been "evangelising" for the entrance into Iraq and in many respects has pursued a damage limitation exercise in a world that was increasingly becoming anti_American.

Personally I hope that like the other murderers before him like David and Saul that God can melt his heart, so that like all other sinners he can have a taste of true power and freedom, that only the Holy Ghost can provide. By all means I am sure that most people want to see him tortured, shot or whatever but just in my walk with Jesus I am sure that he wants, if he has not started yet, to see Saddam turn his twisted soul back to him.

To be honest it makes no difference if the UK or USA see themselves as Christian nations, which to be honest is a bit strange as they both pride themselves on nations which are founded on divorcing religion from politics, and as we know nations in the name of Christianity have twisted the gospel before, but we still have hope that now the people of Iraq can now move forward without the threat of the Baa'thist regime overshadowing them. Let us pray that the Christians also which enjoyed some of the best freedoms in the Middle East second only to Israel are now not subject to extreme Muslim fundamentalism in the majority Sunni's or Shi'ites which dominate the current post-war Iraqui landscape.

Just my thoughts. From the little country over the pond!

 

[Éclairé]

I think we should tell the son now that we originally provided mr. bad guy logistical support and intelligence to help him more affectively gas his neighbors to death.

"Daddy dunt that make us ebil?

 

[ddlewis86]

I think this quote from my pastor sums things up nicely for me.

I think I'll rupture something if I hear one more political type call the war
in Iraq a sham because we have not found WMD. Remember, we invaded not because
Saddam had WMD, but because he might have but wouldn't let us know for sure.
With that character, the only two ways to know for sure were to get attacked or
invade. I for one think our Commander and Chief made the right call.

 

[ddlewis86]

I think we should tell the son now that we originally provided mr. bad guy logistical support and intelligence to help him more affectively gas his neighbors to death.

"Daddy dunt that make us ebil?

I guess you believe the store that sold the murderer the gun should be prosecuted as well huh? I guess the car dealer that sold the drunk the car should be prosecuted as well huh? I guess the ....... never mind.. I think you get my point.

 

[draper]

ROFL.

I cannot believe there are actually people who honestly think Bush went to war because he cared about 'freeing Iraq'

Operation Iraqi Liberation.

Plus Bush was just finishing what his dad started.

I mean I'm glad Saddam is out of power and all.

But, now that he is captured, Saddam will live in a nice warm, cozy room, get excellent food, hot water to bath in...

Don't you think living in inhumane conditions under the ground and not being able to hurt anyone is a WEE bit of a better punishment?

 

[ddlewis86]

ROFL.

I cannot believe there are actually people who honestly think Bush went to war because he cared about 'freeing Iraq'

Operation Iraqi Liberation.

Plus Bush was just finishing what his dad started.

I mean I'm glad Saddam is out of power and all.

But, now that he is captured, Saddam will live in a nice warm, cozy room, get excellent food, hot water to bath in...

Don't you think living in inhumane conditions under the ground and not being able to hurt anyone is a WEE bit of a better punishment?

Have you even stopped to grasp the concept of what your accusation implies?

Are you saying that President Bush is so EVIL that he condemned to death American Soldiers, not to mention thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians, JUST to "FINISH" what his "dad" started?

I am still confused as to how OIL has become an issue in all of this. Can you please explain to me just exactly how OIL was the reason for the invasion? I have to believe that MAYBE you don't know exactly WHAT to believe. I mean was it oil or was it family business? Which one was it and HOW would it all play out? Come on. Even the DNC has abandoned the OIL issue. That "theory" lost play MONTHS ago.

You make these claims but can you justify them? I don't think so.

 

[antigoat]

Addition to the story:

Now, as you look up and down your block through the bay window of your 3rd story living room, you count 30 houses.

Twelve of them are dilapidated and falling apart, the kids who live there playing in filth and garbage, hungary because they have nothing to eat. Most of these houses happen to be clustered together, at either end of the block.

Another 8 houses are occupied by other families living in fear of the Man of the house, routinely beaten and abused.

Now, how do you explain to your 9 year-old son why you only help that one family, and stop that one man? How do you tell him that although you stopped that first abusive man in order to protect his family as well as your own, you don't raise a finger to help the others?

How do you tell him that although you stopped that first man to help his family, you don't put a fraction of the time and effort into bringing the poor families a load of groceries and bring the kids to get a doctor checkup? How do you tell him that the meal a week you provide for them is enough?

Ridding the world of Saddam Hussein is great. But I still don't buy the reasoning.

 

[ddlewis86]

Addition to the story:



Now, as you look up and down your block through the bay window of your 3rd story living room, you count 30 houses.



Twelve of them are dilapidated and falling apart, the kids who live there playing in filth and garbage, hungary because they have nothing to eat. Most of these houses happen to be clustered together, at either end of the block.



Another 8 houses are occupied by other families living in fear of the Man of the house, routinely beaten and abused.



Now, how do you explain to your 9 year-old son why you only help that one family, and stop that one man? How do you tell him that although you stopped that first abusive man in order to protect his family as well as your own, you don't raise a finger to help the others?



How do you tell him that although you stopped that first man to help his family, you don't put a fraction of the time and effort into bringing the poor families a load of groceries and bring the kids to get a doctor checkup? How do you tell him that the meal a week you provide for them is enough?



Ridding the world of Saddam Hussein is great. But I still don't buy the reasoning.

By explaining to him that the United States can't save the entire world by herself. You explain that the United Nations was created for that purpose and it needs to become a useful organization that has the ability to carry out it's mission or it needs to disban in favor of another organization of nations that would be committed to following through with that mission.



Do you want to pay 90% of your income in taxes and institute a national draft just so we can go on a global crusade to "repair" the entire world by ourselves?



We can only do so much. Even though 90 plus nations took part in this Iraq situation, the western nations carried the brunt of the responsibility.

 

[The Story Teller]

Addition to the story:

Now, as you look up and down your block through the bay window of your 3rd story living room, you count 30 houses.

Twelve of them are dilapidated and falling apart, the kids who live there playing in filth and garbage, hungary because they have nothing to eat. Most of these houses happen to be clustered together, at either end of the block.

Another 8 houses are occupied by other families living in fear of the Man of the house, routinely beaten and abused.

Now, how do you explain to your 9 year-old son why you only help that one family, and stop that one man? How do you tell him that although you stopped that first abusive man in order to protect his family as well as your own, you don't raise a finger to help the others?

How do you tell him that although you stopped that first man to help his family, you don't put a fraction of the time and effort into bringing the poor families a load of groceries and bring the kids to get a doctor checkup? How do you tell him that the meal a week you provide for them is enough?

Ridding the world of Saddam Hussein is great. But I still don't buy the reasoning.

With that dribble and 50 cents you can get a cup of coffee. Just don't try to tell the owner of the coffee shop your version. You might not get the coffee..

 

[The Story Teller]

There was only One Man that stood for something to all mankind. The Choice is Yours...

 

[alonesoldier]

Saddam Hussein Meet with the governoring counsel, he is unrepented, calling victims of his regime terrorist.

By the way the following analogies aren't making any sense, its just flower power, 300,000 dead and 2 million intentional starved.. call it what it is.. the cost of freeing Iraq? 3200 civilian deaths. Number that would have died in the next ten years? A million more. Leave the analogies at home, if your position looks bad when you speak in reality thats because it is bad.

 

[Éclairé]

I guess you believe the store that sold the murderer the gun should be prosecuted as well huh? I guess the car dealer that sold the drunk the car should be prosecuted as well huh? I guess the ....... never mind.. I think you get my point.

I believe that using chemical weapons is wrong and aiding those that we know are using them is wrong, even if these "weapons of mass destruction" are used to mass destruct people we don't like.

In other words telling a serial killer where he can gas his next victims is wrong, and then demonizing him later for gassing them is being a hypocrite.

 

[ddlewis86]

I believe that using chemical weapons is wrong and aiding those that we know are using them is wrong, even if these "weapons of mass destruction" are used to mass destruct people we don't like.

In other words telling a serial killer where he can gas his next victims is wrong, and then demonizing him later for gassing them is being a hypocrite.

That's not exactly the correct scenario but I digress.

Are you saying that you have proof that the United States of America supplied Iraq with chemical and/or biological weapons?

Are you making the claim that you have proof that the United States of America aided the Iraqi military in launching it's chemical weapons or dispersing biological agents?

Do you have PROOF or are you basing your assertions from some conspiracy web site?

 

[draper]

Have you even stopped to grasp the concept of what your accusation implies?

Are you saying that President Bush is so EVIL that he condemned to death American Soldiers, not to mention thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians, JUST to "FINISH" what his "dad" started?

I am still confused as to how OIL has become an issue in all of this. Can you please explain to me just exactly how OIL was the reason for the invasion? I have to believe that MAYBE you don't know exactly WHAT to believe. I mean was it oil or was it family business? Which one was it and HOW would it all play out? Come on. Even the DNC has abandoned the OIL issue. That "theory" lost play MONTHS ago.

You make these claims but can you justify them? I don't think so.

Yeah I pretty much think Bush only cares about finishing what his daddy started and controlling Iraqi's oil fields.

I mean, I'm happy he went in there to get rid of Hussein but I'm very unhappy with his reasoning for doing so.

As for oil, Iraq has tons of it, so if he invades Iraq he gets it all.