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brinny said: ↑
Nowhere in God's Word does it state that the lake of fire "cleanses" or is for "cleansing". This is contrary to the "cleansing" from the blood of Jesus the Christ, that "cleanses" us.
That is why i asked if the lake of fire "saves" us, because only Jesus the Christ is our Savior, and only His blood "cleanses" us.
Salvation..............FineLinen said: ↑
Yup. Theion and thioo is what is escaping your grasp of Theos.
Do you have the slightest inclination who are not "hurt" by the 2nd death? Is it all who have been cleansed by the blood of the Lamb?!
Salvation is NOT by our dynamai, ability, or resources!
Do you have the slightest inclination who are not "hurt" by the 2nd death? Is it all who have been cleansed by the blood of the Lamb?!
Ou haima oude thelema sarx aner ek
FineLinen said: ↑
Yup. Theion and thioo is what is escaping your grasp of Theos.
Do you have the slightest inclination who are not "hurt" by the 2nd death? Is it all who have been cleansed by the blood of the Lamb?!
Salvation is NOT by our dynamai, ability, or resources!
Do you have the slightest inclination who are not "hurt" by the 2nd death? Is it all who have been cleansed by the blood of the Lamb?!
Ou haima oude thelema sarx aner ek
Salvation..............
Exodus 14:13
And Mosheh is saying to the people "must not be ye are fearing. Station yeselves! and see! the Salvation of Yahweh which He shall do for ye this day.
For the Egyptians ye see today, not ye shall add to see of them futher unto an age. [2 Chron 20:17]
Luke 3:6
And shall be seeing All flesh shall be seeing the Salvation/swthrion <4992> of the God. [Zech 2:13/Reve 11:18, 19:17]
Romans 13:11
And this being aware/knowing the time, that hour already ye out of sleep to be roused,
for now nearer of us the Salvation/swthria <4991> than we believe [Reve 7:10, 12:10, 19:1]
Revelation 12:10
And I hear great voice saying in the Heaven "now became the Salvation/swthria <4991> and the power and the Kingdom of the God of us, and the authority of the Christ of Him,
that was cast the Accuser of the brothers of us, the accusing them in sight of the God of us day and night. [John 5:45]
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Song of Moses
Revelation 15:3 [Exodus 15]
and They are singing the Song of-Mosheh, the bond-servant of the God, and the song of the Lambkin, saying, `Great and marvelous the works of Thee, Lord! the God, the Almighty, just and true the ways of Thee, the king of the [*Ages/Saints] Nations
Do you have the slightest inclination who are not "hurt" by the 2nd death? Is it all who have been cleansed by the blood of the Lamb?!
brinny said: ↑
Nowhere in God's Word does it state that the lake of fire "cleanses" or is for "cleansing". This is contrary to the "cleansing" from the blood of Jesus the Christ, that "cleanses" us.
That is why i asked if the lake of fire "saves" us, because only Jesus the Christ is our Savior, and only His blood "cleanses" us.
Yup. Theion and thioo is what is escaping your grasp of Theos.
Do you have the slightest inclination who are not "hurt" by the 2nd death? Is it all who have been cleansed by the blood of the Lamb?!
Salvation is NOT by our dynamai, ability, or resources!
Ou haima oude thelema sarx aner ek
Salvation..............
Exodus 14:13
And Mosheh is saying to the people "must not be ye are fearing. Station yeselves! and see! the Salvation of Yahweh which He shall do for ye this day.
For the Egyptians ye see today, not ye shall add to see of them futher unto an age. [2 Chron 20:17]
Luke 3:6
And shall be seeing All flesh shall be seeing the Salvation/swthrion <4992> of the God. [Zech 2:13/Reve 11:18, 19:17]
Romans 13:11
And this being aware/knowing the time, that hour already ye out of sleep to be roused,
for now nearer of us the Salvation/swthria <4991> than we believe [Reve 7:10, 12:10, 19:1]
Revelation 12:10
And I hear great voice saying in the Heaven "now became the Salvation/swthria <4991> and the power and the Kingdom of the God of us, and the authority of the Christ of Him,
that was cast the Accuser of the brothers of us, the accusing them in sight of the God of us day and night. [John 5:45]
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Song of Moses
Revelation 15:3 [Exodus 15]
and They are singing the Song of-Mosheh, the bond-servant of the God, and the song of the Lambkin, saying, `Great and marvelous the works of Thee, Lord! the God, the Almighty, just and true the ways of Thee, the king of the [*Ages/Saints] Nations
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Exodus 14:13
And Mosheh is saying to the people "must not be ye are fearing. Station yeselves! and see! the Salvation of Yahweh which He shall do for ye this day.
For the Egyptians ye see today, not ye shall add to see of them futher unto an age. [2 Chron 20:17]
Hello brinny.
I find this person's view concerning the "allusions" found in the book of Revelation that are found in the Old Testament/Covenant rather fascinating.
Would anyone like to put down verses from Revelation and the verses from the OT/OC that are "alluded" to? I think that would be enjoyable and edifying. Thanks
THE SYMBOLISM IN BOOK OF REVELATION
One man studied and found 348 allusions (not illusions, Light) in Revelation from the Old Testament. You see the similarity in wording and the context mirrored in Revelation and the particular Old Testament story, and immediately can recognize the reference source!
That's IF you know the bible well enough to even notice that.
95 of the 348 plain references used in Revelation as taken from the Old Testament are repeated in Revelation.
That makes about 250 Old Testament passages are cited. How many chapters are in Revelation? 22. That makes about TEN OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES FOR EVERY CHAPTER!
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Here are some of the ones I have come up with. Please feel free to add or comment on them.
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Books in Daniel Daniel 7:9 and 11:10.
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Cried and joy Temple/City: Ezra 3:12,13 and Reve 18:18, 19:4
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Ear to hear: Isaiah 6:9,10 and Matt 13:15, Reve 2,3,13
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Holy Holy Holy Isaiah 6:6 and Revelation 4:8
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Jericho, Priest and Trumpets: Joshua 6:4, Hebrews 11:30, Matt 24:31, Reve 8:6
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Lift hands to heaven and swore..: Daniel 2:7 and Reve 10:5
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Light Revelation to Israel and Nations: Isaiah 9:2, Luke 2:32, Reve 1:1
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Moses and Elijah, fire falling, as is also seen in Revelation.
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Moses and Elijah
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Mountain of fire cast into Sea
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Pierced: Zech 12:10 and Reve 1:7
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Sacrifice/Supper of God: Ezek 39:17 and Reve 19:17
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Sanctuary/Tabernacle filled with smoke
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Silence/Hush: Zech 1:7, 2:13 and Reve 8:1
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Sodom and Egypt: Matt 2:15, Reve 11:8
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Song of Moses: Exodus 15:1 and Revelation 15:3
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Spirit lifting, taking Ezekiel and John
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Stars 7
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Tree of Life and Garden: Genesis 3:24 and Reve 2:7
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Whip.........Nahum 3:2, John 2:15,
EZEKIEL AND REVELATION PARALLELi become more and more fascinated with Revelation. Several things stand out for me...one is that John is being used of God, to write down what he sees and what he is told to write....along with these verses that keep coming to mind when i read Revelation:
"20Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? 21Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? 22Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. 23Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?" ~John 21:20-23
Awesome!
Hello brinny.
Are you still fascinated with the book of Revelation? Gotta read it as an OT Hebrew would.
Remember this thread?
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Aug 30, 2011
EZEKIEL AND REVELATION PARALLEL
1. THRONE VISION - (Rev 4./Ezek 1).
2. THE BOOK (Rev 5/Ezek 2-3)
3. THE PLAGUES (Rev 6:1-8/Ezek 5).
4. Slain Beneath the Altar (Rev. 6:9-11/Ezek. 6)
5. WRATH OF GOD (Rev 6:12-17/Ezek 7).
6. SEAL ON SAINTS' FOREHEADS (Rev 7/Ezek 9)
7. COALS FROM ALTAR (Rev. 8/Ezek 10).
8. NO MORE DELAY (Rev. 10:1-7/Ezek 12).
9. EATING THE BOOK (Rev 10:8-11/Ezek. 2)
11. MEASURING THE TEMPLE (Rev. 11:1-2/Ezek. 40-43)
11. JERUSALEM AND SODOM (Rev. 11:8/Ezek 16)
12. CUP OF WRATH (Rev. 14/Ezek. 23).
13. VINE OF THE LAND (Rev. 14:18-20/Ezek 15)
14. GREAT HARLOT (Rev 17-18/Ezek. 16, 23).
15. LAMENT OVER THE CITY (Rev. 18/Ezek 27)
16. SCAVENGER'S FEAST (Rev. 19/Ezek 39)
17. FIRST RESURRECTION (Rev 20:4-6/Ezek 37).
18 BATTLE WITH GOG AND MAGOG (Rev. 20:7-9/Ezek 38-39)
19. NEW JERUSALEM (Rev 21/Ezek 40-48)
20. RIVER OF LIFE (Rev 22/Ezek 47)
A DOOMSDAY EMPHASIS?
I learned that there were pagan apocalyptist “preachers” in the second century who would concoct all sorts of nonsensically vague symbols, that they really did not even intend to be understood. And they always proposed doom and gloom. They proposed evil ruled the day and God would sit back until the end and intervene. These guys would go wild in their speculations! There was nothing they said that would give people an answer of what to do. Just bear the evil until the end. This is identical to the emphasis we find as the resulting feeling saints are given by futurist teachings.
I must not understand. How is this bad news? Just the other day.. thinking about my own family what not.. as in I don't think I have been a good example or taught them enough.. how will they be saved. Praise GOD.. He said "I saved you". All are drawn to Him by the sweet sweet Holy Spirit..
Why would this be sad/bad news for them ... since He has chosen them ?Dear Blade: It is only bad news for those who think they have chosen the Lord Jesus Christ.
They certainly do illustrate truths. And one of those truth is the goats will be separated from the sheep.
Why would this be sad/bad news for them .. since He has chosen them ?
Per scripture ... we choose Him because He first chose us.Dear Thinker : There are only two options>>>>
1. We have chosen our Saviour God.
2. Our Saviour God has chosen us.
Dear Thinker : There are only two options>>>>
1. We have chosen our Saviour God.
2. Our Saviour God has chosen us.
How does this have to do with the topic?
Dear Thinker : There are only two options>>>>
1. We have chosen our Saviour God.
2. Our Saviour God has chosen us.
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