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Well, again, that's Peter to whom you're referring.
Fallacy of associated guilt. Your argument for the priesthood is invalid.
Actually, it's you I'm referring to. You are putting your theology into the Scripture as if your theology is the very Scripture itself. IOW, you are mixing up belief and Scripture. I was referring to your beliefs, not Scripture. You, not Peter.
associating PRIESTS and PROPHETS (snip)
Is it a human barrier between God and man?
Or is it a necessity as it was in the OT.
Okay, I guess. So now we can go back to Peter---
1 Peter 2:5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
1 Peter 2:9 But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God's OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
Correct me here. Don't you believe the Church is built upon Peter the rock or the rock of confession (let the reader decide)?
Peter is talking to you and to me and to other believers. Shall we listen to him or to non-eyewitnesses? He's saying we are stones too, built up as a temple wherein God dwells. We are of the Melchizedek priesthood, called out of darkness into His light, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God. We are acceptable to God because of the righteousness of Jesus Christ who dwells in us.
You make it sound like all non-RCs are of the Illuminati*snip*
Heck, I could go through the whole Jewish background of the priesthood but it would take a few posts, and you Scripture Only Christians would just wave your hands and say, "So where's this in Scripture?" And after I point to Scripture you'll just wave your hands again and say, "Whatever, devil worshippers! Go suckle on the harlot of Babylon's teats!"
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Heck, I could go through the whole Jewish background of the priesthood but it would take a few posts, and you Scripture Only Christians would just wave your hands and say, "So where's this in Scripture?" And after I point to Scripture you'll just wave your hands again and say, "Whatever, devil worshippers! Go suckle on the harlot of Babylon's teats!"
Really, your guys' hardheartedness is starting to disappoint me. And yes I am ranting rather than answering your question. Why? Because I already answered your question -snip-
So, if you really want to know what the Church teaches on the priesthood, just read the documents. And if they don't provide enough clarification, you have a whole website - with over fifty miles of documents on it - to search for clarifications on "in the person of Jesus Christ", "spiritual sacrifices," etc.
We've already acknowledged that the concept of NT PRIEST came out from OT levitical-type priest.
Here's from your second cite---
" The Anaphora or Canon is one long prayer has the form of thanksgiving (eucharistia), thus following the example of Christ himself at the Last Supper, when he took bread and wine and "gave thanks" (Matthew 26:27; Mark 14:23; Luke 22:19; 1 Corinthians 11:23). "
So far so good. In fact, eucharist MEANS, it IS, thanksgiving.
" St. Cyprian of Carthage (died 258), one of the most important witnesses to the Latin tradition, provided a classical formulation of the inseparable bond between the liturgical celebration and the institution event, when he emphasised that the celebrant of the Eucharist must imitate closely the acts and words of the Lord at the Last Supper, upon which the validity of the sacrament depends.[3] "
Whoa. What just happened? We go from Peter and Jesus and scripture and precise first definition to someone who came along 200 years later who wasn't an eyewitness and who introduces the new sacrifice notion and you want us to believe that guy? The very early Church would reject that immediately as PROOF that it was not apostolic.
Thanks for proving my point about you Scripture Only Christians.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I'm using Tradition. Tradition says eucharist is thanksgiving.
It also shows where things skewed. Cyprian began a tradition. We know this because of Tradition.
Does that help?
According to the Church your Church broke away from, neither is yoursYour theology isn't Catholic, so you applying your theology to Tradition doesn't work.
Quit using fallacies.
Your theology isn't Catholic, so you applying your theology to Tradition doesn't work.
Quit using fallacies.
From the citation again,
" it can only be founded on the "sacramental" authorization given to the whole Church by Jesus Christ himself. [...] And this is exactly the 'Priestly Ordination' and the 'Priesthood.'"[20] "
See those quotation marks around "sacramental"? They are there rightly because of fear of God; you see, the author already admitted that Jesus never did that, but rather, it was Cyprian.
But does it require a priest?
Only Chuck Norris could come up with a proper reply to such an insane conclusion - and even HE would have to think about what to say for at least ten minutes.
Yes the Eucharist does require a priest. It ALSO requires a congregation. The priest can not perform the Eucharist by himself. Does this imply that congregation is improperly standing in the way of the priests access to God ?
why do you use the word barrier when inquiring what they believe? that is a conclusion you have made upon yourself that you ATTEMPT to interject into their definition or beliefs.
Is your Pastor a barrier in hearing the Word of God?
Christ uses the Priest to bring his flock to him. This is what Christ did when he assemblied his Apostles and this is what the Apostles did when they ordained Bishops and Priests, and Deacons.
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