Sabbath was made for man

[Gibs]

A question is really where and how did Sunday worship come from and about,

“Question - Which is the Sabbath day?
“Answer - Saturday is the Sabbath day.
“Question - Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
“Answer - We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.” Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd edition, 1957.

Who Do We Reverence and Pay Homage to by Keeping Sunday Holy?
“From this we may understand how great is the authority of the church in interpreting or explaining to us the commandments of God - an authority which is acknowledged by the universal practice of the whole Christian world, even of those sects which profess to take the holy Scriptures as their sole rule of faith, since they observe as the day of rest not the seventh day of the week demanded by the Bible, but the first day. Which we know is to be kept holy, only from the tradition and teaching of the Catholic church.” Henry Gibson, Catechism Made Easy, #2, 9th edition, vol. 1, p. 341-342.

“The Catholic church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday...The Protestant World at its birth found the Christian Sabbath too strongly entrenched to run counter to its existence; it was therefore placed under the necessity of acquiescing in the arrangement, thus implying the (Catholic) Church’s right to change the day, for over three hundred years. The Christian Sabbath is therefore to this day, the acknowledged offspring of the Catholic Church as spouse of the Holy Ghost, without a word of remonstrance from the Protestant World.” James Cardinal Gibbons in the Catholic Mirror, September 23, 1983

 

[VictorC]

A question is really where and how did Sunday worship come from and about,

“Question - Which is the Sabbath day?
“Answer - Saturday is the Sabbath day.
“Question - Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
“Answer - We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.” Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd edition, 1957.

Who Do We Reverence and Pay Homage to by Keeping Sunday Holy?
“From this we may understand how great is the authority of the church in interpreting or explaining to us the commandments of God - an authority which is acknowledged by the universal practice of the whole Christian world, even of those sects which profess to take the holy Scriptures as their sole rule of faith, since they observe as the day of rest not the seventh day of the week demanded by the Bible, but the first day. Which we know is to be kept holy, only from the tradition and teaching of the Catholic church.” Henry Gibson, Catechism Made Easy, #2, 9th edition, vol. 1, p. 341-342.

“The Catholic church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday...The Protestant World at its birth found the Christian Sabbath too strongly entrenched to run counter to its existence; it was therefore placed under the necessity of acquiescing in the arrangement, thus implying the (Catholic) Church’s right to change the day, for over three hundred years. The Christian Sabbath is therefore to this day, the acknowledged offspring of the Catholic Church as spouse of the Holy Ghost, without a word of remonstrance from the Protestant World.” James Cardinal Gibbons in the Catholic Mirror, September 23, 1983

Do you remember this post you didn't have an answer for?

You can find uninspired opinions that claim to change the Sabbath, but none of them explain how they resurrected this component that depends on the Mosaic covenant to exist. It is bogus, and Sunday Sabbatarianism is as equally incompatible with Christianity as Saturday Sabbatarianism. Old-covenant "christianity" is a oxymoron that doesn't exist except in your tortured imagination. We have the liberty to assemble at any time, and we extend that same liberty to those who want to assemble on Saturday.

Do you see the flaw in your quotes? These uninspired sources can't find a means to resurrect the old covenant, necessary in order to 'change' it while it retained jurisdiction.

 

[Gibs]

No Flaw. just admittance!

 

[VictorC]

No Flaw.

Translation: No, you can't - and if consistency with your posts is to be trusted, you don't want to reconcile any of your beliefs with Scripture.

just admittance!

Translation: Gibs is dependent on the Roman Catholic church for his opinions he can't reconcile with Scripture.

 

[from scratch]

A question is really where and how did Sunday worship come from and about,

“Question - Which is the Sabbath day?
“Answer - Saturday is the Sabbath day.
“Question - Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
“Answer - We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.” Peter Geiermann, C.S.S.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50, 3rd edition, 1957.

Who Do We Reverence and Pay Homage to by Keeping Sunday Holy?
“From this we may understand how great is the authority of the church in interpreting or explaining to us the commandments of God - an authority which is acknowledged by the universal practice of the whole Christian world, even of those sects which profess to take the holy Scriptures as their sole rule of faith, since they observe as the day of rest not the seventh day of the week demanded by the Bible, but the first day. Which we know is to be kept holy, only from the tradition and teaching of the Catholic church.” Henry Gibson, Catechism Made Easy, #2, 9th edition, vol. 1, p. 341-342.

“The Catholic church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday...The Protestant World at its birth found the Christian Sabbath too strongly entrenched to run counter to its existence; it was therefore placed under the necessity of acquiescing in the arrangement, thus implying the (Catholic) Church’s right to change the day, for over three hundred years. The Christian Sabbath is therefore to this day, the acknowledged offspring of the Catholic Church as spouse of the Holy Ghost, without a word of remonstrance from the Protestant World.” James Cardinal Gibbons in the Catholic Mirror, September 23, 1983

So they fib. Why do you need religious institutions to justify your false teaching?

 

[Gibs]

What I posted was an admittance and not a scripture in the above instance. By.

 

[from scratch]

Translation: No, you can't - and if consistency with your posts is to be trusted, you don't want to reconcile any of your beliefs with Scripture.

QFT!!

 

[Gibs]

So they fib. Why do you need religious institutions to justify your false teaching?

The proof is in the pudding if you can stand it!

 

[from scratch]

What I posted was an admittance and not a scripture in the above instance. By.

Be nice and when you say such things. Oh yeah come to think of it runners don't do such things. At least I don't remember them ever doing such. Neither do enemies.

 

[from scratch]

The proof is in the pudding if you can stand it!

I don't eat lie pies.

 

[VictorC]

Why do you need religious institutions to justify your false teaching?

Excellent question. Dependence on uninspired opinions is a natural step after discarding the Bible.

 

[Gibs]

I don't eat lie pies.

You ought the pudding though because it is the proof!

 

[from scratch]

You ought the pudding though because it is the proof!

There isn't any truth in the pudding of lie pies.

 

[Gibs]

There isn't any truth in the pudding of lie pies.

It will all come out as to what is true in the wash and that great wash day is now at our doors. That will be the great judgment at the Throne and all will in the end acknowledge His judgment is just! Even Satan and all his will bow the knee of men and his angels

 

[from scratch]

It will all come out as to what is true in the wash and that great wash day is now at our doors. That will be the great judgment at the Throne and all will in the end acknowledge His judgment is just! Even Satan and all his will bow the knee of men and his angels

And there will be enough tears to fill an ocean.

 

[Gibs]

And there will be enough tears to fill an ocean.

And a lot of moaning and groaning too!

 

[disciple1]

Let me show you some things about the law. If anyone touches a dead body, they are unclean and so is everything that comes in contact with the dead body or anyone who touches it. So the people going to a funeral are unclean and so is the church the body is in.
The law was never obeyed nor was it meant to be it was to lead us to Christ.
Galatians chapter 3 verses 24,25,23
So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith now that faith has come we are no longer under the supervision of the law before this faith came we were held prisoners by the law locked up until faith should be revealed.
CHRIST IS THE ONLY ONE WHO EVER KEPT THE LAW.
Galatians chapter 2 verse 21 If righteousness could be gained by the law Christ died for nothing.

 

[mmksparbud]

Let me show you some things about the law. If anyone touches a dead body, they are unclean and so is everything that comes in contact with the dead body or anyone who touches it. So the people going to a funeral are unclean and so is the church the body is in.
The law was never obeyed nor was it meant to be it was to lead us to Christ.
Galatians chapter 3 verses 24,25,23
So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith now that faith has come we are no longer under the supervision of the law before this faith came we were held prisoners by the law locked up until faith should be revealed.
CHRIST IS THE ONLY ONE WHO EVER KEPT THE LAW.
Galatians chapter 2 verse 21 If righteousness could be gained by the law Christ died for nothing.

Christ is the only one who ever kept the law??---That is a curious thing to say--when so many here keep saying that Christ did not keep the Sabbath and point to the instances where He didn't. But we were always justified by faith----
Hab 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Romans is quoting Hab 2:4--


Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:

Righteousness was always by faith.


Heb 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

Heb 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.

Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

Heb 11:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Heb 11:11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised.

Heb 11:12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

 

[from scratch]

Christ is the only one who ever kept the law??---That is a curious thing to say--when so many here keep saying that Christ did not keep the Sabbath and point to the instances where He didn't. But we were always justified by faith----

Really? I've certainly missed such statements here. You're the first one I ever remember saying Jesus didn't keep the 7th day Sabbath. You live by the law and not faith. So I don't understand why you're posting about faith.

 

[Gibs]

Yes Scratch that is strange as I remember Jesus saying He did and I choose to believe Him!