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Now, now there Scratch you should not say that, but I have a ducks back and it did slide off.

John did if you notice stated "commandments of God."
God made more commandments throughout the Bible other than the Mosaic Law... do you include those amongst your "commandments of God" too?
 
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How do you see that verse was the question that I ask. What is your interpretation?
That's what I thought. You either don't know the commandments of God, or your agenda demands violating them. I don't think you can feign ignorance at this juncture.
 
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How do you see that verse was the question that I ask. What is your interpretation?
Who cares? You don't. Until you make a stand that the Sabbath is mandatory to salvation I can pretty much ignore any argument you make here as to keeping it because I can be saved without it and consider it a useless trivial venture and a lot of wasted time.
 
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There isn't anything about the Sabbath in God's commandments.

Until you read them. Ex 20:11, Is 58:14

Mark 7:6-13 Christ calls the Ten Commandments - God's Commandments.

So also Paul in Eph 6:1-2.

A Bible "detail" so obvious - that the majority of the Christian scholarship on planet Earth - admits to it - even the pro-Sunday groups listed in the signature line below.

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Who cares? You don't. Until you make a stand that the Sabbath is mandatory to salvation I can pretty much ignore any argument you make here as to keeping it because I can be saved without it and consider it a useless trivial venture and a lot of wasted time.

Yes, Sophrosyne, I sure do keep the Sabbath and I take my stand on it that it is God's will that I do!
 
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I know very well you know what commandments John is speaking of!

Indeed we all do.

10 Commandments are –
“Commandments of God” Neh 10:29
“Law of God” Neh 10:29
“Word of God” Mark 7:13
“Commandment of God” Mark 7:6-13
NT “Scripture” James 2:8
NT “Law” – James 2:9-11
NT Commandments Eph 6:2, Rom 13:9, Romans 7:7-10


BTW - sola scriptura "they studied the scriptures daily to SEE IF those things spoken to them (by the Apostle Paul) were SO" Acts 17:11 -


what scriptures were NT saints using?
 
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Now, now there Scratch you should not say that, but I have a ducks back and it did slide off.

John did if you notice stated "commandments of God."
Why yes. What are those commandments John talks about?

23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 JN

17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. JN 1

10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. JN 15

Yep I know God's Word slides right off your back.
 
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Mark 7:6-13New Living Translation (NLT)

6 Jesus replied, “You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you, for he wrote,
‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 Their worship is a farce,
for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.’[a]

8 For you ignore God’s law and substitute your own tradition.”
9 Then he said, “You skillfully sidestep God’s law in order to hold on to your own tradition. 10 For instance, Moses gave you this law from God: ‘Honor your father and mother,’[b] and ‘Anyone who speaks disrespectfully of father or mother must be put to death.’[c] 11 But you say it is all right for people to say to their parents, ‘Sorry, I can’t help you. For I have vowed to give to God what I would have given to you.’[d] 12 In this way, you let them disregard their needy parents. 13 And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others.”


I think it is interesting that Mark here says that Jesus himself said that Moses give them the Law from God.... which means Jesus denies he gave Israel the Law himself
 
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Love your neighbor as yourself of course

Matt 22 God says that

"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5
"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18

Are the foundation of all the Word of God - including the LAW of God - "The Law and the prophets" -- ensuring that it will never be washed away.

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Why yes. What are those commandments John talks about?

23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 JN

17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. JN 1

10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. JN 15

Yep I know God's Word slides right off your back.

No I don't let His Word slide off the ole back, just things that people don't really mean.
 
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Matt 22 God says that

"Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5
"Love your neighbor as yourself" Lev 19:18

Are the foundation of all the Word of God - including the LAW of God - "The Law and the prophets" -- ensuring that it will never be washed away.

in Christ,

Bob
If one love their neighbor then they are essentially doing ALL the Law requires of them. which means that the commandment REPLACES the Law entirely.
 
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Mark 7:6-13New Living Translation (NLT)

6 Jesus replied, “You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you, for he wrote,
‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 Their worship is a farce,
for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.’[a]

8 For you ignore God’s law and substitute your own tradition.”
9 Then he said, “You skillfully sidestep God’s law in order to hold on to your own tradition. 10 For instance, Moses gave you this law from God: ‘Honor your father and mother,’[b] and ‘Anyone who speaks disrespectfully of father or mother must be put to death.’[c] 11 But you say it is all right for people to say to their parents, ‘Sorry, I can’t help you. For I have vowed to give to God what I would have given to you.’[d] 12 In this way, you let them disregard their needy parents. 13 And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others.”


I think it is interesting that Mark here says that Jesus himself said that Moses give them the Law from God.... which means Jesus denies he gave Israel the Law himself

Proves they have a reading problem. Nice catch.
 
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Until you read them. Ex 20:11, Is 58:14

Mark 7:6-13 Christ calls the Ten Commandments - God's Commandments.

So also Paul in Eph 6:1-2.

A Bible "detail" so obvious - that the majority of the Christian scholarship on planet Earth - admits to it - even the pro-Sunday groups listed in the signature line below.

in Christ,

Bob
Really? Where? Kindly quote the Sabbath within the commandments of God! And no, your corny appeal to a fallacious logical fallacy only causes others to suspect your about to fail.
 
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Yes, Sophrosyne, I sure do keep the Sabbath and I take my stand on it that it is God's will that I do!
You've already proven this claim to be false by your own practice. The time stamp provided by the server doesn't lie.
 
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