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You probably should've read the stone tablets prior to responding instead if compounding your sin.
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You probably should've read the stone tablets prior to responding instead if compounding your sin.Scratch,
I do keep the Sabbath commandment, it is not galling but is a pleasure as in it He comes to tabernacle with us and to shed His light upon us. Yes as Isaiah states "it is a delight!"
1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
I'm sorry but even though the 10 is posted, almost no Christian were keeping the Sabbath and almost no mainline Church organization were demanding Sabbath keeping. Personally it wouldn't bother me if they removed the 10 commandments from every corner of the Earth they are invalid for Christians only needed by Jews who for the most part reject Christ.
The Sabbath wasn't enforced if it kept as Sunday, to say it was defeats any argument you have for the Sabbath because the Day is foremost important to keeping it NOT the action on another WRONG day.I am sorry, but you have not answered the question---the 10 were not just posted, they were rigorously enforced--please do not go off unto your own opinion--just historical facts. Sabbath keeping was strictly enforced, but it was Sunday, that is spelled out in the law books back then and in history books. Just asking an answer to my question, please! Society made the change slowly, but when?
The Sabbath wasn't enforced if it kept as Sunday, to say it was defeats any argument you have for the Sabbath because the Day is foremost important to keeping it NOT the action on another WRONG day.
Which churches kept the 7th day Sabbath?I am sorry, but you have not answered the question---the 10 were not just posted, they were rigorously enforced--please do not go off unto your own opinion--just historical facts. Sabbath keeping was strictly enforced, but it was Sunday, that is spelled out in the law books back then and in history books. Just asking an answer to my question, please! Society made the change slowly, but when?
I did look it up in Wiki--(Keeping the 10 Commandments in American History)but can't find the date of transition--it was an interesting article, though.
Such an argument requires the keeping of the 7th day Sabbath. Its still your sole focus and purpose. Quit trying to sneak in the back door.I have not addressed Sabbath keeping as the 7th day--the question is concerning the keeping of the 10 commandments in American history--I am making no argument about anything.
Without proper Sabbath keeping the 10 commandments are only the 9 Commmandments thus invalidI have not addressed Sabbath keeping as the 7th day--the question is concerning the keeping of the 10 commandments in American history--I am making no argument about anything.
It is what they do... anything to make you believe keeping 9 commandments obligates you to keeping the Sabbath (or missing one). It is like saying since a neighboring country has the same speed limit as we do then we must be citizens of that country and required to keep ALL of its lawsSuch an argument requires the keeping of the 7th day Sabbath. Its still your sole focus and purpose. Quit trying to sneak in the back door.
Without proper Sabbath keeping the 10 commandments are only the 9 Commmandments thus invalid
Yup this "everyone" is "keeping" the Sunday Sabbath bait and switch is a common tactic here. We have arguments saying they are the same thing then another thread arguing one is in grievous sin by "keeping" Sunday instead of Saturday. Why someone would use such a bait and switch tactic here doesn't surprise me one bit.
The Law still exists, but it is unneeded for those whom believe in the one that fulfilled it on their behalf. Those who reject their redeemer the Law still exists for but the Law was for Israel ONLY.Sophrosyne,
How can we go along with that when Jesus tells us this plain and straight out!
Mt 5:17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
And note! He fulfilled it by keeping it himself as our example!
Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Go back and read my post before in where loving your neighbor fulfills the Law and tell me those writers were liarsSophrosyne,
You surely will regard Jesus Christ's own statement I hope,
Mt 5:17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Do you want to be called the least?
1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jo 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
How can Jesus be the author of the (Mosaic) Law when He claims it is his Father's commandments he keeps while we are to keep Jesus' commandments which equates not his Fathers?Sophrosyne,
Yes those writers are right and I do also from love as it is the fulfilling of the law and true obedience to all He asks as we love to please Him, it is our greatest desire.
Jesus is the Author of the law and it will never be abrogated, will always be as he is eternal. The death of Christ on the cross or nothing will abrogate it. He is love and those 10 are the transcript of that love to us to practice and be of.
NO.... ALL are fulfilled by loving your neighbor. The Bible authors didn't say what you are saying at all, you are adding to their words which isn't wise in fact there is a warning to those who add to the Bible.His law of love is spelled out in what we know as the 10 commandments and the first four are fulfilled if and when we love Him above all and the last 6 when and if we love our fellow man as ourselves.
It is my delight to do so!
1Jo 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
None of this logically addresses this verse:Because He and the father are one, from all eternity,
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
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