Sabbath School subject discussion thread

[sentipente]

sentipente...if thats all you have to offer, then lets end this discussion. I would hate to be accused and called names by pushing the issue. Thanks for not attacking.

AT

There never was a need to attack. The evidence is on my side of the issue.

 

[sentipente]

I did not add to the text. You said that there is no mention of Heaven yet if you look at the text the word Heaven is clearly there.

This is the second time you have claimed that something exists but have failed to reveal it. This is becoming a habit.

 

[mva1985]

There never was a need to attack. The evidence is on my side of the issue.

Any chance of you sharing your evidence?

Like maybe a short Bible study on it.

 

[Adventtruth]

Any chance of you sharing your evidence?

Like maybe a short Bible study on it.

I tried to win that from him, but you know what happened after that.


AT

 

[sentipente]

Any chance of you sharing your evidence?

Like maybe a short Bible study on it.

Do you really need a Bible study to convince you that what you believe does not accurately represent the nature of the all-powerful Master and Creator of the Universe? Take some time and consider what you think of the Master.

 

[sentipente]

I tried to win that from him, but you know what happened after that.


AT

With that kind of attitude I can see why you are thankful I did not attack you.

 

[mva1985]

Do you really need a Bible study to convince you that what you believe does not accurately represent the nature of the all-powerful Master and Creator of the Universe? Take some time and consider what you think of the Master.

I think I get it now. Everyone must supply evidence of their position to you but you don't feel obligated to do the same.

 

[sentipente]

I think I get it now. Everyone must supply evidence of their position to you but you don't feel obligated to do the same.

On the contrary. My reluctance is based on the fact that my positions are not based on some small subset of biblical texts that often are given an interpretation that contradicts the general teaching of the Bible. A short Bible study would not suffice.

 

[VictorC]

Ok you keep harping on about this please repost what I wrote that you are debating and lets deal with this once and for all. (head bangs against brick wall)

keep it simple

 

[sentipente]

keep it simple

Can you prove there is salvation in Jesus? Can you prove that everyone who will be saved must have known of Jesus?

 

[VictorC]

Can you prove there is salvation in Jesus? Can you prove that everyone who will be saved must have known of Jesus?

Let's see some answers, hot-shot.
The question involved is as simple as it gets.
All that's required of moicherie is yes/no.

 

[sentipente]

Let's see some answers, hot-shot.
The question involved is as simple as it gets.
All that's required of moicherie is yes/no.

But her answer has no meaning unless you can answer mine. If there is no salvation in Jesus then any other question is irrelevant if salvation is the focus.

 

[VictorC]

But her answer has no meaning unless you can answer mine. If there is no salvation in Jesus then any other question is irrelevant if salvation is the focus.

You earlier wrote this in an untitled post:

You are missing the point. There is only one Savior and He saved the entire race. Every last one.

What you have done is to change your tune from ascribing a universal salvation to an un-named saviour, to now questioning the possibility of salvation available at all.
Needless to say, you have come full-circle and demonstrate that you aren't any closer to an answer.
That evidence surfaced when you chose to ignore my post points never made can't be missed which came in response.

Thank you for your succinct response, sentipente.
I understand your position adequately now, and as I mentioned via title to moicherie, it was your last chance to provide an answer.

Victor

 

[Adventtruth]

With that kind of attitude I can see why you are thankful I did not attack you.

Why the anger sentipente. Did I strike a cord in you with that remark? That was not my intent. If you want to attack, feel free. I am use to attacks from Adventist. But what kind of attitude do I have? Maybe you can answer that, seeing you never give a answer to any one asking serious questions. I hope you don't lead a church of those willing to understand the gospel, seeing that you have demonstrated that you can't seem to explain salvation.

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[sentipente]

Why the anger sentipente.​

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This is so typical. Employ an emotive word in hopes of swaying the peanut gallery. Too sad.

 

[sentipente]

What you have done is to change your tune from ascribing a universal salvation to an un-named saviour, to now questioning the possibility of salvation available at all.

If that's your conclusion you must have a serious comprehension problem. Does the word IF hold any meaning for you?

 

[moicherie]

Let's see some answers, hot-shot.
The question involved is as simple as it gets.
All that's required of moicherie is yes/no.

yes or no to what? why should I need to answer sentipente's question it is not addressed to me...

 

[VictorC]

yes or no to what? why should I need to answer sentipente's question it is not addressed to me...

Moicherie, I suspect that your view settings make it hard for you to navigate, since you responded to a post not addressed to you.
My reply to you is here.
It asks the question of you "Is there any means of salvation outside of Jesus?".
This was invoked by your questioning the meaning of the text that appears in Acts 4:12, that appears here.

I hope to read a response from you concerning the means of salvation you consider valid from the Biblical text.
We have run in circles enough for my tastes, and I offer this as a last chance for your reply.
Thank you!

Victor

 

[VictorC]

If that's your conclusion you must have a serious comprehension problem. Does the word IF hold any meaning for you?

I don't have a problem with comprehension, nor with elemetary logic.
You contradicted yourself, and have shown that your intent is not discussion, but merely to ask question upon question, running in circles as you do.

Victor

 

[sentipente]

I don't have a problem with comprehension, nor with elemetary logic.
You contradicted yourself, and have shown that your intent is not discussion, but merely to ask question upon question, running in circles as you do.

Victor

What do we say of an individual who claims to have no comprehension problems then immediately demonstrates a lack of comprehension?