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Sabbath Commandment quoted IN the NT - Ex 20:7 NOT quoted in the NT

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All TEN of the TEN Commandments included in the Jer 31:31-33 NEW Covenant: "LAW of God written on the heart" - and valid in the NT. Even Paul said "what matters is KEEPING the commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19 where we find that those commandments the "first commandment with a promise" is the 5th commandment. Eph 6:2

(Same "moral law of God" -- the law that defines what sin is 1 John 3:4 in both covenants (agreements) but the covenants themselves are different. NEW Covenant is saved by grace through faith with the new birth included. Old Covenant is "obey and live" as we see explained in Gal 3)
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The FACT of God's Commandments - God's TEN Commandments "where the first commandment with a promise" is the 5th commandment Eph 6:2 -- is sooo incredibly obvious that BOTH sides of the classic Sunday vs Bible-Sabbath debate - agree.

I am glad these Sunday sources all affirm the Ten Commandments for Christians, written on the heart under the NEW Covenant.

The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism

A foolish trap set by a person who keeps the Old Covenant.

You say that in response to "do not take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7 ?? seriously?? Have you thought that through???

Jesus said:

"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the [age] to come." (Matthew 12:31-32

True... a good place NOT to find "do not take God's name in vain" quoted.

By contrast
Ex 20:11 last verse of the Sabbath commandment: 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

Acts 4:24 direct quote from the 4th comm Ex 20:11 "24 And when they heard this, they lifted their voices to God with one accord and said, “O Lord, it is You who made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and all that is in them,"

Acts 14:15 direct quote from the 4th comm Ex 20:11
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all that is in them.

Rev 14:7 direct quote from the 4th comm Ex 20:11
7 and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters.”

Heb 4: "There REMAINS a Sabbath rest for the people of God" Heb 4.. a good place to find direct reference to the Sabbath commandment.

Acts 18:4 Gospel preaching "EVERY Sabbath" - a good place to find direct reference to the Sabbath commandment.

Act 13 - gentiles asking that MORE Gospel preaching be presented "the NEXT Sabbath" - a good place to find direct reference to the Sabbath commandment.

Acts 17:1-5 - Gospel preaching for 3 Sabbaths in a row -- "2 And according to Paul’s custom, he went to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures,"- a good place to find direct reference to the Sabbath commandment in the NT. The Bible Sabbath which you claim to reject from the section of the Bible which you claim to reject.

The FACT of God's Commandments - God's TEN Commandments "where the first commandment with a promise" is the 5th commandment Eph 6:2 -- is sooo incredibly obvious that BOTH sides of the classic Sunday vs Bible-Sabbath debate - agree.
 
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Bob - have you read Ariel Berkowitz' book "Torah Rediscovered?"

He talks about the way ancient covenants were amended and replaced. In essence, anything NOT SPECIFICALLY changed, deleted, or superseded is carried over intact from the old to the new.

https://www.amazon.com/Torah-Rediscovered-Ariel-Dvorah-Berkowitz/dp/172605313X

Dave - thanks for sharing that. A great resource and good point - God makes Law and only God can change/edit/delete what He makes. We cannot make stuff up about "Law was not repeated in the book of Malachi so it is deleted" -- all that sort of eisegesis is mere fluff.
 
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Dave - thanks for sharing that. A great resource and good point -
You are most welcome.

While I do not agree with some of his final conclusions, the information that he has on ancient covenants and how they worked is extremely useful.

This book makes my short list of texts that should be taught in every bible college and seminary.
 
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One thing I notice is how the Sabbath command says that everyone, including servants, are to rest. All are to get the good of rest. So, this is a love your neighbor as yourself command, then, I would say. Because we are expected to want others to get the good which we have.

So, this is not only about a day of the week and that God created the universe. It is about loving others as yourself.
 
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One thing I notice is how the Sabbath command says that everyone, including servants, are to rest.

True. And Isaiah 56:6-8 specifically targets gentiles for Sabbath keeping while also in Isaiah 66:23 saying it is to be kept by all mankind for all eternity after the cross - in the New Earth.

All are to get the good of rest. So, this is a love your neighbor as yourself command, then, I would say. Because we are expected to want others to get the good which we have.

So, this is not only about a day of the week and that God created the universe. It is about loving others as yourself.

Amen!
 
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And Isaiah 56:6-8 specifically targets gentiles for Sabbath keeping while also in Isaiah 66:23 saying it is to be kept by all mankind for all eternity after the cross - in the New Earth.
But doesn't the Bible say there will be no sun on the new earth?
 
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But doesn't the Bible say there will be no sun on the new earth?

It says that the "city" has no need of the sun because of the glory of God - it does not say that there is no Sun. :)

Rev 21
18 The material of the wall was jasper; and the city was pure gold, like clear glass. 19 The foundation stones of the city wall were adorned with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation stone was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald; 20 the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprase; the eleventh, jacinth; the twelfth, amethyst. 21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; each one of the gates was a single pearl. And the street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass. 22 I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23 And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb.
 
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It says that the "city" has no need of the sun because of the glory of God - it does not say that there is no Sun. :)
How about how Paul says "the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God"? (in Romans 8:21)

Do you understand this means that all creation will be in Christ's resurrectional glory, like we will be?

I don't mean this means there will be no sun. I am just asking what you think will be the quality of the new earth. It, though, could mean there will be no night on any side of the earth, if the whole earth is in Christ's own glory . . . of "the glorious liberty of the children of God."

And if there is the moon, the moon will also be in our glorious liberty.
 
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All TEN of the TEN Commandments included in the Jer 31:31-33 NEW Covenant: "LAW of God written on the heart" - and valid in the NT. Even Paul said "what matters is KEEPING the commandments of God" 1 Cor 7:19 where we find that those commandments the "first commandment with a promise" is the 5th commandment. Eph 6:2

(Same "moral law of God" -- the law that defines what sin is 1 John 3:4 in both covenants (agreements) but the covenants themselves are different. NEW Covenant is saved by grace through faith with the new birth included. Old Covenant is "obey and live" as we see explained in Gal 3)
============================

The FACT of God's Commandments - God's TEN Commandments "where the first commandment with a promise" is the 5th commandment Eph 6:2 -- is sooo incredibly obvious that BOTH sides of the classic Sunday vs Bible-Sabbath debate - agree.

I am glad these Sunday sources all affirm the Ten Commandments for Christians, written on the heart under the NEW Covenant.

The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism



You say that in response to "do not take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7 ?? seriously?? Have you thought that through???



True... a good place NOT to find "do not take God's name in vain" quoted.

By contrast
Ex 20:11 last verse of the Sabbath commandment: 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

Acts 4:24 direct quote from the 4th comm Ex 20:11 "24 And when they heard this, they lifted their voices to God with one accord and said, “O Lord, it is You who made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and all that is in them,"

Acts 14:15 direct quote from the 4th comm Ex 20:11
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all that is in them.

Rev 14:7 direct quote from the 4th comm Ex 20:11
7 and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters.”

Heb 4: "There REMAINS a Sabbath rest for the people of God" Heb 4.. a good place to find direct reference to the Sabbath commandment.

Acts 18:4 Gospel preaching "EVERY Sabbath" - a good place to find direct reference to the Sabbath commandment.

Act 13 - gentiles asking that MORE Gospel preaching be presented "the NEXT Sabbath" - a good place to find direct reference to the Sabbath commandment.

Acts 17:1-5 - Gospel preaching for 3 Sabbaths in a row -- "2 And according to Paul’s custom, he went to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures,"- a good place to find direct reference to the Sabbath commandment in the NT. The Bible Sabbath which you claim to reject from the section of the Bible which you claim to reject.

The FACT of God's Commandments - God's TEN Commandments "where the first commandment with a promise" is the 5th commandment Eph 6:2 -- is sooo incredibly obvious that BOTH sides of the classic Sunday vs Bible-Sabbath debate - agree.
Not a single one of your quotes require sabbath keeping.
 
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How about how Paul says "the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God"? (in Romans 8:21)

Do you understand this means that all creation will be in Christ's resurrectional glory, like we will be?

It means that the death and decay cycle of "the law of tooth and claw" will be revoked - and the Paradise that God created for mankind from the start - will restored on Earth.

The text is very specific to say the "city" has no need of the sun.
But at the start of the chapter we see "a New Earth". So then the text is careful to maintain the distinction between "earth" and the "city". I think that detail in the text is important.
 
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One thing I notice is how the Sabbath command says that everyone, including servants, are to rest. All are to get the good of rest. So, this is a love your neighbor as yourself command, then, I would say. Because we are expected to want others to get the good which we have.

So, this is not only about a day of the week and that God created the universe. It is about loving others as yourself.
The problem is requiring others to work for your convenience while also condemning them for not observing the sabbath. Any one who is compensated by you for your convenience is a servant. So people who say they;re keeping the 4th commandment are fooling themselves. Also they must work for compensation for 6 days prior to keeping the sabbath. Few of them do especially in the USA.
 
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True. And Isaiah 56:6-8 specifically targets gentiles for Sabbath keeping while also in Isaiah 66:23 saying it is to be kept by all mankind for all eternity after the cross - in the New Earth.



Amen!
You need to read the Scripture, specifically the Book of the Law.
 
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