Sabbath And First Day

[bbbbbbb]

Where did Peter get the idea that those OT passages applied to Christ? There is nothing in those passages that mentions Jesus. Peter was TAUGHT these things by CHRIST. He is passing on those teachings.

And somehow he had never read the Bible himself nor had it ever occured to him that this speaking in tongues had anything to do with the prophecy, unless Jesus had orally told him that it needed to be mentioned in passing. It is interesting that there is absolutely nothing in any of the four gospels related to the day of Pentecost as recorded in Acts 2. However, Peter does go on to use two passages from the Psalms.

The "interpretation" is merely the statement of current events that were well-known to all in Jerusalem. There is nothing of Oral Tradition here, and certainly nothing concerning the Oral Tradition of the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[bbbbbbb]

And gave the New Testament interpretation of those prophecies, which were not yet recorded anywhere. None of the Gospels had been written and no Epistles had been written. The receiving of the Gospel was purely oral tradition at this stage and would be for many years to come.

I suppose you also believe that the inhabitants of Jerusalem were prior recipients of this Oral Tradition because they also were fully aware of the events proclaimed by Peter. Thus it is that there is nothing whatsoever in this world that was not at one time oral tradition. Even my telephone book can be said to be the product of oral tradition.

 

[prodromos]

I suppose you also believe that the inhabitants of Jerusalem were prior recipients of this Oral Tradition because they also were fully aware of the events proclaimed by Peter.

Fully aware? No. Did they understand how everything Jesus did was the fulfilment of the Messianic prophecies? No. Only the disciples were privy to all that Jesus said and did.

 

[Jeepneytravel]

You really need to see "all the counsel of God", for Jesus said in Matt. 12; Mk. 2; Lk. 14; Jn. 5 that He is Lord even of the Sabbath (all rest), not of the Sabbath Day as given for Israel to remember creation ---which Sabbath was done away with the advent of Christ. Refer to Heb. 4:1-11 and see how the Lord Jesus is our rest in general. You might see again the original paper, which is clear to me as very sound.

The Bible, the word of God should be the words to be followed by all "christians"....but the vast majority have been deceived by satan, the ruler of this world into following the pagan Roman/Babylonian system and the first day of the week sunday in honour of their sungod.
If you want to follow God, our Creator and ruler of the universe then you will keep His commandments....John 14.15, Matthew 19.17 and the writing of the Apostles, and their practices....
The "christians" who decide against following the true word come up with all kinds of excuses to not follow God's commandments and Holy seventh day Sabbath day which He blessed and sanctified as the seventh day of Creation week Genesis 2. Free will let's you do exactly what you want, but those sunday followers should quit trying to contaminate the true Christianity with it's pagan man made traditions which are not scriptural...judgement day should be interesting.

 

[klutedavid]

The Bible, the word of God should be the words to be followed by all "christians"....but the vast majority have been deceived by satan, the ruler of this world into following the pagan Roman/Babylonian system and the first day of the week sunday in honour of their sungod.
If you want to follow God, our Creator and ruler of the universe then you will keep His commandments....John 14.15, Matthew 19.17 and the writing of the Apostles, and their practices....
The "christians" who decide against following the true word come up with all kinds of excuses to not follow God's commandments and Holy seventh day Sabbath day which He blessed and sanctified as the seventh day of Creation week Genesis 2. Free will let's you do exactly what you want, but those sunday followers should quit trying to contaminate the true Christianity with it's pagan man made traditions which are not scriptural...judgement day should be interesting.

Hello Jeepneytravel.

Sunday was the third day according to the scripture.

If Jesus was in the tomb for three full days and nights, then you follow a fourth day resurrection.

 

[Jeepneytravel]

And your point would be?

 

[prodromos]

The Bible, the word of God should be the words to be followed by all "christians"....but the vast majority have been deceived by satan, the ruler of this world into following the pagan Roman/Babylonian system and the first day of the week sunday in honour of their sungod.

Well I suppose that excludes the Vatican since they call the first day of the week "Dominica" and all the Latin based languages except one or two follow suit, so that is the vast majority of Catholic Christians who don't call it Sunday. That also excludes the Greeks who call the first day "Kyriaki" and the Russians who call it "Resurrection", so the vast majority of Orthodox Christians are also off the hook. It seems it is primarily the Germanic language groups who still have to put up with pagan names for the days of the week.

It appears that your argument is based on a fallacy.

 

[Jeepneytravel]

It also appears you do not know what you are talking about

 

[prodromos]

It also appears you do not know what you are talking about

Based on what?

 

[1watchman]

There will probably never be agreement on all this. It is one thing to share our views, but if not accepted one should leave it alone ---"a mind persuaded against its will, is of the same opinion still" (as a saying goes). The original post set forth the issue as understood by many Bible teachers, and others don't accept that, so be it!

 

[bbbbbbb]

Well I suppose that excludes the Vatican since they call the first day of the week "Dominica" and all the Latin based languages except one or two follow suit, so that is the vast majority of Catholic Christians who don't call it Sunday. That also excludes the Greeks who call the first day "Kyriaki" and the Russians who call it "Resurrection", so the vast majority of Orthodox Christians are also off the hook. It seems it is primarily the Germanic language groups who still have to put up with pagan names for the days of the week.

It appears that your argument is based on a fallacy.

Actually, I like the system of George Eastman, founder of Eastman Kodak. He established a calendar for his employees of seven-day weeks which he named, First Day, Second Day, Third Day, Fourth Day, Fifth Day, Sixth Day, and Seventh Day. They worked from Second Day through Sixth Day every week. There were thirteen months in the year (First Month, Second Month, etc.) of four weeks for each month exactly. There was one day left at the end of the year, except in leap years which had two days.

With this calendar there was no worry about how many days were in a month or how to remember any of the peculiar names of the days and months. Very efficient, IMO.

 

[kepha31]

Any correlation between pagan gods and the names of the days of the week is just silly. Associations between the two has been dropped centuries ago and now it is meaningless. The same with the pagan origins of wedding rings, it's the Pagan Influence Fallacy.