Roman church errors and inventions

[boswd]

This thread isn't concerning the Reformers or Protestants......

but something tells me you wouldn't ask that question on the error of Protestanism thread though would ya

 

[Philothei]

What took the RCC church so long to finally come around and apologize? Just curious....

Well for us it was John Paul's visit to Athens for the first time since the schism.. That was a historical moment and the apology was a good thing. Not that it completely healed the past but at least it was a good "intention" for starting up a process of healing the old wounds.

I still remember his speech and the very act of kissing the ground when he arrived to where St. Paul delivered his talk to the Athenians at the "Arios Pagos". (not sure if he kissed the ground at the Airport though...lol... been a long time ago) . It did moved the Greeks to see his act of remorse... towards the many errors they had comitted.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

but something tells me you wouldn't ask that question on the error of Protestanism thread though would ya

I am neither RC nor Protestant so why should I ask it?

 

[tadoflamb]

Don't know and Don't know where you are going with this.

I guess it's a damned if you do damned if you don't.


Have you ever wondered why the Reformers have never apologized for burning and hanging innocent people?

I'm wondering why JPII's apology continues to go largely unaccepted.

 

[Philothei]

I'm wondering why JPII's apology continues to go largely unaccepted.

Who says that?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by tadoflamb I'm wondering why JPII's apology continues to go largely unaccepted.

Who says that?

Would make for an interesting thread me thinks

http://www.christianforums.com/t6980813-21/#post44360212
That Martin Luther? He wasn’t so bad, says Pope

 

[tadoflamb]

Who says that?

It's just a general trend I see here in GT and elsewhere.

We tend to get beat with the same stick time and again.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

It's just a general trend I see here in GT and elsewhere.

We tend to get beat with the same stick time and again.

Yeah.....the Protestants/EO's hear that excuse all the time from the RCs.
What would be the remedy?

http://www.christianforums.com/t6449385-53/#post40857466

 

[Secundulus]

Yeah.....the Protestants/EO's hear that excuse all the time from the RCs.
What would be the remedy?

KILL THE STRAWMEN.

 

[tadoflamb]

Yeah.....the Protestants/EO's hear that excuse all the time from the RCs.
What would be the remedy?

http://www.christianforums.com/t6449385-53/#post40857466

The Christian virtue of forgiveness.

Of course, I can't force anyone to forgive me.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

KILL THE STRAWMEN.

Another words, just rename the GT board the "Strawman Board"

 

[Philothei]

Shall we post the dead horse with the stick again LLOJ

The Christian virtue of forgiveness.

Of course, I can't force anyone to forgive me.

Can any Christian deny to forgive you

 

[tadoflamb]

Can any Christian deny to forgive you

Very well put.

 

[brinny]

Another words, just rename the GT board the "Strawman Board"

seriously, when i see the word strawman, i think of him:

 

[New_Wineskin]

The late Pope John Paul (can't remember his #) apologised to the EO for the Crusaders actions in Constantinople. That is something

Yes , it is something . It is something that shows that none should expect a Catholic pope to take care of the things involved in the current scandal for another 700 to 900 years - at the earliest . Though , they may surprise people .

Question ... in the apolgy , was there a mention of what actions , doctrines , commands were brought into existance to prevent anything similar in the future ( with respect to their subjects and heirarchy ,that is ) ?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Yes , it is something . It is something that shows that none should expect a Catholic pope to take care of the things involved in the current scandal for another 700 to 900 years - at the earliest . Though , they may surprise people .

Question ... in the apolgy , was there a mention of what actions , doctrines , commands were brought into existance to prevent anything similar in the future ( with respect to their subjects and heirarchy ,that is ) ?

After Godfrey and Balwin died there wasn't much spirit left in the crusades. But the kings and noblemen made peace with each other alot moreso than the popes did. I don't think any provisions were made. But ya gotta wonder what they were doing there to begin with. Jesus had commanded His people to the world.

 

[Philothei]

Yes , it is something . It is something that shows that none should expect a Catholic pope to take care of the things involved in the current scandal for another 700 to 900 years - at the earliest . Though , they may surprise people .

Question ... in the apolgy , was there a mention of what actions , doctrines , commands were brought into existance to prevent anything similar in the future ( with respect to their subjects and heirarchy ,that is ) ?

His apology was from his heart and I think that was enough.... Still why would they have to deny their theology in order to apologize? How one is to apologize for their actions and they would do the same ones?

Shall we ask the CC to issue a Bull declaring that they will not go after the Holy Land again?

 

[tadoflamb]

Well, I've been searching for said apology and while JPII reportedly issued about 100 apologies I can't find the transcripts, only the opinions of pundits.

Anyhoo, it's out there if anyone else cares to look for the particular apology they're interested in.


In the meantime, from the pundits:

EIPS - The Pope's 'Apology' – the first great laugh of the new Millennium

 

[laconicstudent]

In the meantime, from the pundits:

EIPS - The Pope's 'Apology' – the first great laugh of the new Millennium

[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]hile presenting a mask of friendship and reconciliation to the world outside, in the secret recesses of the Vatican she is gathering her forces to re-establish the Inquisition (for which she feigns an apology), using modern technology to her full advantage, and acquiring information to track down her enemies and obliterate all who do not comply with her religious dogmas. By this means she is laying plans to control not only Europe, but the whole world.

I feel like CF doesn't have a smilie that fully conveys the nature of my ROFL
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[boswd]

Well, I've been searching for said apology and while JPII reportedly issued about 100 apologies I can't find the transcripts, only the opinions of pundits.

Anyhoo, it's out there if anyone else cares to look for the particular apology they're interested in.


In the meantime, from the pundits:

EIPS - The Pope's 'Apology' – the first great laugh of the new Millennium

I wouldn't worry about it. Pope JPII gave a heartfelt humbling apology.
If it's not good enough for the Evangelicals (all the while sitting on their own skeletons in their closets) then tough. Too bad its their own problem and more than likely it wouldn't matter what anyone would say or do they would still hold to same unaccepting judgment anyway.

I'm tired of all the other Christians Faiths always having to defend and explain themselves to the Fundamentalist Evangelicals.
Here's a tip take the time an to actually learn what others believe, worry about your Church's doings and going on and your own sins.