RNC Opens with Prayer to Ancient Demon

[Grip Docility]

Has it occurred to you that, unlike Christianity, these other religions don't have a morbid fixation on sin?

OB

All Religions have "morbid fixations" with sin. Only Jesus Christ the One True Creator of all that exists desired to become one with creation by becoming one of us. Did he exalt Himself as King, ask for accolades or act selfishly? Nope. He died at the hands of the Creation that He Loves out of Humility, Compassion and Selflessness. He Rose on the third day demonstrating Power over Death and Sin.

All Religions have "morbid quid pro quo fixations on sin".

Jesus Christ forgave all sins. Mankind simply has to humbly acknowledge that they "Do have Sin" and turn to Jesus Christ. (Sin problem vanished).

From Atheism to all Religions, mankind is caught in a quid pro quo relationship with life.

Jesus Christ is just a breath away and offers the Easy Yoke of "Love one another as we Love ourselves". Tell me Occam, apart from false, judgmental representation of Jesus Christ, what Law do you have against Love, Joy, Mercy, Humility, Compassion, Peace, Gentleness, Self-Control and the like?

 

[AlexB23]

All Religions have "morbid fixations" with sin. Only Jesus Christ the One True Creator of all that exists desired to become one with creation by becoming one of us. Did he exalt Himself as King, ask for accolades or act selfishly? Nope. He died at the hands of the Creation that He Loves out of Humility, Compassion and Selflessness. He Rose on the third day demonstrating Power over Death and Sin.

All Religions have "morbid quid pro quo fixations on sin".

Jesus Christ forgave all sins. Mankind simply has to humbly acknowledge that they "Do have Sin" and turn to Jesus Christ. (Sin problem vanished).

From Atheism to all Religions, mankind is caught in a quid pro quo relationship with life.

Jesus Christ is just a breath away and offers the Easy Yoke of "Love one another as we Love ourselves". Tell me Occam, apart from false, judgmental representation of Jesus Christ, what Law do you have against Love, Joy, Mercy, Humility, Compassion, Peace, Gentleness, Self-Control and the like?

Amen to this brother. Galatians 5:22-23, one of my favorite verses.

 

[Grip Docility]

Amen to this brother. Galatians 5:22-23, one of my favorite verses.

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[Arcangl86]

1) The entire Sikh faith is only about 500 years old. So there is nothing that can called ancient about SIkhism. 2) Waheguru is a title, not a personal name that means something like "Wonderous Teacher." From my understanding, there isn't really such a thing as a personified god in Sikhism since god is the only truth and this world is an illusion. 3) This is probably the most important one. As much as Christian nationalism has crept into the party, the Republican Party is open to members of any or no religion, as should be the case in a nation founded on religious pluralism and secularity.

 

[AlexB23]

Thank The Good Lord that we are under the New Covenant, because I just stole your Beautiful Jpeg!

Amen to that. You can use the fruit poster for yourself. It is not mine either.


But yes, the Democrats have gone woke, and now the Republicans have started to pray to a false god. The world is coming to an end, and Jesus will be coming back.

 

[Grip Docility]

Amen to that. You can use the fruit poster for yourself. It is not mine either.


But yes, the Democrats have gone woke, and now the Republicans have started to pray to a false god. The world is coming to an end, and Jesus will be coming back.

If I could write Jesus in on the Ballot, I genuinely would.

 

[AlexB23]

1) The entire Sikh faith is only about 500 years old. So there is nothing that can called ancient about SIkhism. 2) Waheguru is a title, not a personal name that means something like "Wonderous Teacher." From my understanding, there isn't really such a thing as a personified god in Sikhism since god is the only truth and this world is an illusion. 3) This is probably the most important one. As much as Christian nationalism has crept into the party, the Republican Party is open to members of any or no religion, as should be the case in a nation founded on religious pluralism and secularity.

I understand this, and many Sikh folks are nice. Yeah, 500 years is not ancient, so my bad. And yes, I am not a fan of theocratic nationalism, of any religion getting into politics, though we can stick to fair values, such as honoring others.


This Sikh guy named Arjun Singh writes about how cyber bullying has caused harm to our society, and also protects victims of domestic abuse. Arjun is doing a lot more good compared to 99% of Christians. So yes, Sikh folks should be welcome, but a prayer before a convention is a little overkill. He is also very handsome and dresses well, but I must overcome my lust*, cos God convicted me to remain celibate unless married to a woman.

*1 Thessalonians 4:3-8 (NIV): "It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathens, who do not know God."

Arjun Singh (he looks so cool with his beard)

Arjun Singh Sethi - Wikipedia

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[Neogaia777]

If I could write Jesus in on the Ballot, I genuinely would.

You can do that you know. I did, multiple times, etc.

They don't like to tell you that you can write in anybody you want, because that could potentially get anyone with enough popularity/sway into the position, without having to have anything to do with politics, or political parties, or enough money/funding from "special interest groups" that have to fund a campaign in order to win most usually potentially, etc.

God Bless.

 

[AlexB23]

If I could write Jesus in on the Ballot, I genuinely would.

Same here. I would also, cos Jesus would change things for the better. However, just remember, we are citizens of Heaven, so when we pass away, we will be with Jesus and not have to deal with this dark world anymore. I am 24, so assuming no accidents or plane crash, that is around 60 years away for me.

I might vote Peter Sonski in 2028, once this election is over.

 

[AlexB23]

Guys, so we have two parties. One with a prayer to a false god (R), and one that mocked Christianity (D). Third party, specifically Sonski is seeming like a good option, even in 2024.

Joe mocks Christian faith:

Bishop Paprocki: Biden Mocks Catholic Faith by Invoking Christ in Pro-Abortion Message

Shepherd of Springfield, Illinois, is accusing the president of ‘making a mockery of our Catholic faith’ after he made the Sign of the Cross while promoting abortion.

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[ThatRobGuy]

Well, this is a wake up call to my fellow Republican friends, that no party is Christian. Many folks associate the Republicans for having a Christian moral ground, when in reality, no party has a Christian moral ground.

Well, for those of us who have families where one side is Catholic and one side is Protestant, I think it's already pretty evident that there's not a clear consensus, even within Christianity, on some of these matters.

I'm an atheist so I'm not in with either faction...but there's definitely some divisions there.

The fact that an Indian-American prayed to Sikh god isn't that much different than how Baptists view Catholics praying to who they feel are saints. (while Southern Baptists will often view it as a form of Idol worship)


I think having someone who's a non-Christian giving an opening prayer (to a non-Christian God) is a net positive for the GOP.

A) It's not going to cost them anything, it's not as if whatever people happen to be offended by it are going to vote Democrat as a result, they're still gonna vote for Trump

B) It gives them a "claim to diversity" angle they can use as a rebuttal, at-will, whenever it's convenient in an interview or debate.

 

[AlexB23]

Well, for those of us who have families where one side is Catholic and one side is Protestant, I think it's already pretty evident that there's not a clear consensus, even within Christianity, on some of these matters.

I'm an atheist so I'm not in with either faction...but there's definitely some divisions there.

The fact that an Indian-American prayed to Sikh god isn't that much different than how Baptists view Catholics praying to who they feel are saints. (while Southern Baptists will often view it as a form of Idol worship)


I think having someone who's a non-Christian giving an opening prayer (to a non-Christian God) is a net positive for the GOP.

A) It's not going to cost them anything, it's not as if whatever people happen to be offended by it are going to vote Democrat as a result, they're still gonna vote for Trump

B) It gives them a "claim to diversity" angle they can use a rebuttal, at-will, whenever it's convenient in an interview or debate.

Yeah, there is a slight division between Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants, but all Christians are brothers in Christ. I do feel that the non-Christian opening prayer could have offended some Republicans. In fact, conventions should not have any opening prayers in my opinion.

Also, Catholics pray through saints, not to saints. @Michie could explain better than I can. I rarely pray through saints, as Jesus is the guy who I pray through.

 

[Michie]

Yeah, there is a slight division between Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants, but all Christians are brothers in Christ. I do feel that the non-Christian opening prayer could have offended some Republicans. In fact, conventions should not have any opening prayers in my opinion.

Also, Catholics pray through saints, not to saints. @Michie could explain better than I can. I rarely pray through saints, as Jesus is the guy who I pray through.

There are no dead in Christ.

Why Do Catholics Pray to Saints?

The historic practice of asking saints in heaven for their intercession is questioned by many. Explore the common arguments and the Catholic beliefs.

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[Hans Blaster]

RNC makes tiny effort to make tent bigger.

Onlookers: Demons!

I wasn't going to mention the gross comments by rightwing racists like Nick Fuentes, but... I guess now I am. Can't be worse than demonic invocations.

MAGA Makes Racist Attacks Against JD Vance's Wife​

"Who is this guy, really?" Fuentes said on his podcast. "Do we really expect that the guy who has an Indian(*) wife and named their kid Vivek is going to support white identity?"

Vincent James Foxx, who was present at the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, wrote on X: "JD Vance gets tapped as VP and immediately there's a Hindu(**) prayer at the RNC."

(*) Usha Vance is an American born to Indian immigrants
(**) Dhillon (and her prayer) is Sikh

I'm sure the "Mass Deportation Now" party* will have no problems keeping their new found diversity.

(*) The officials handed out signs with that phrase to delegates today.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Yep, she worships two false gods: Waheguru and Trump.

I worship one: Jesus.

Sure you don't want to rephrase that? I mean I agree with you completely, but I'm pretty sure it's not how you meant it.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Guys, so we have two parties. One with a prayer to a false god (R), and one that mocked Christianity (D).

Joe mocks Christian faith:

If Joe's faith is sincere (albeit not necessarily orthodox for a Catholic) how is it mockery?

Are pro-(death penalty) Christians mocking Christianity?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Sure you don't want to rephrase that? I mean I agree with you completely, but I'm pretty sure it's not how you meant it.

ETA: Oops, now I see what you were getting at.

 

[AlexB23]

If Joe's faith is sincere (albeit not necessarily orthodox for a Catholic) how is it mockery?

Are pro-(death penalty) Christians mocking Christianity?

Yes, pro-death penalty Christians mock Jesus as well, cos Jesus spoke out against the death penalty of a women who committed adultery in John 8.


That is why I like Peter Sonski so much. He has a consistent life ethic (CLE) from womb to tomb, and is also anti-death penalty.

John 8:7 (NIV): "When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, ‘Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.’"

In John 8:7, Jesus was confronted by the religious leaders who had caught a woman in the act of adultery. They demanded that Jesus condemn her, but instead, He challenged them to consider their own sinlessness before throwing stones. This passage illustrates the importance of forgiveness and mercy, as Jesus did not condone the woman's actions but also did not endorse her execution.

CLE:

Consistent life ethic - Wikipedia

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Peter Sonski:

Peter Sonski - Wikipedia

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[RileyG]

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Just remember God has given you permission to state. The God of The Bible is the one true God and all other gods are demons.

Amen

 

[RileyG]

Has it occurred to you that, unlike Christianity, these other religions don't have a morbid fixation on sin?

OB

I don’t think it’s morbid, but ok.