Revelation 12 walk through

[keras]

Re-unification fulfilled in 1948, one nation again.

How can your theorized Christian nation replacement, which you are calling Beulah, be the re-unification of the 10 northern tribes and the 2 southern tribes ? Since your theorized nation will be made up of Christians from around the world of gentile background.

Was there ever a statement from Jewish Israel, that they were unified with the lost tribes, in 1948?
Have you asked your Jewish friends whether they think that? My Jewish/Russian friend certainly does not.

Beulah theorized? What is clearly Prophesied in Isaiah 62:1-5, is not theory.
The Bible Prophets tell us that Gods peoples are from every tribe, race, nation and language, But from many Prophesies, we can see that they will mainly; be descendants of Jacob.

I have bumped heads with you many times over this and your charts, as above. I have refuted and proved you to be wrong, and you have no rebuttal, but you just continue to post the same old false beliefs. This is really an untenable situation; an indisputable correction should result in a change of belief.
Paul has this to say about those who build their house/ beliefs on shaky foundations; they will enter the Kingdom, but only by passing thru fire. 1 Corinthians 3:13-15

 

[Douggg]

Beulah theorized?

Yes, you have a theorized nation made up of Christians from around the world, which you call Beulah, replace the current nation of Israel.

But you did not answer my question....

How can Beulah be the re-unification of the 10 northern tribes and the 2 southern tribes ?

 

[RandyPNW]

Was there ever a statement from Jewish Israel, that they were unified with the lost tribes, in 1948?
Have you asked your Jewish friends whether they think that? My Jewish/Russian friend certainly does not.

Beulah theorized? What is clearly Prophesied in Isaiah 62:1-5, is not theory.
The Bible Prophets tell us that Gods peoples are from every tribe, race, nation and language, But from many Prophesies, we can see that they will mainly; be descendants of Jacob.

I have bumped heads with you many times over this and your charts, as above. I have refuted and proved you to be wrong, and you have no rebuttal, but you just continue to post the same old false beliefs. This is really an untenable situation; an indisputable correction should result in a change of belief.
Paul has this to say about those who build their house/ beliefs on shaky foundations; they will enter the Kingdom, but only by passing thru fire. 1 Corinthians 3:13-15

Wow! Your dogmatism has taken a nasty turn! Since when does a disagreement over a peripheral belief mean that someone can only enter Heaven through fire?

 

[Douggg]

Was there ever a statement from Jewish Israel, that they were unified with the lost tribes, in 1948?

Not that I know of. The Jews themselves don't recognized what happened. They consider the state of Israel as not being the kingdom of Israel (i.e. not being ruled by a king). Which, true, it is not currently a "kingdom" - it is one nation, not two nations of north and south any longer.

Who in your Beulah scenario is going to be the king of Beulah ?

 

[keras]

Who in your Beulah scenario is going to be the king of Beulah ?

Both Hosea 1:11 and Jeremiah 30:21, say the Lords people will elect a leader for themselves.
He/she, is mentioned in Daniel 11:35

it is one nation, not two nations of north and south any longer.

It is glaringly obvious that the current State of Israel, in a small part of the Holy Land, represents Judah only; NOT the other 10 tribes.
It is a serious misunderstanding of scripture, to place their rejoining in the past. Jeremiah 50:4-5 Note how Jeremiah 50:6-7 says the Lords 'sheep' have forgotten their place of origin and they have been 'devoured' - assimilated by their enemies. NOT annihilated!

 

[keras]

Wow! Your dogmatism has taken a nasty turn! Since when does a disagreement over a peripheral belief mean that someone can only enter Heaven through fire?

This reply in itself; is a nasty accusation.
The 'rapture' and the future of the Christian peoples, is not peripheral.

I quoted Paul, who said that people who build their doctrines on foundations other than Biblical truths, will not lose their Salvation, but will only be redeemed 'by passing through fire'.
Which I see as the 'fire' of testing and tribulations. Something for whoever is wrong and who teaches that error, needs to carefully consider. James 3:1

Another issue, which shows your confusion and bias, is; 'people entering heaven'. No one goes to heaven; - the Kingdom will be on earth and after the thousand year reign of King Jesus, God will be with His people in the new Jerusalem.

 

[Douggg]

It is glaringly obvious that the current State of Israel, in a small part of the Holy Land, represents Judah only; NOT the

keras. here is a map of the two kingdoms...and below it, modern day Israel. As you can see they cover the same area of land.

 

[Douggg]

Both Hosea 1:11 and Jeremiah 30:21, say the Lords people will elect a leader for themselves.
He/she, is mentioned in Daniel 11:35

An elected leader is not a king. To be the kingdom of Beulah, the leader has to be a king.

 

[Fisherking]

Not that I know of. The Jews themselves don't recognized what happened. They consider the state of Israel as not being the kingdom of Israel (i.e. not being ruled by a king). Which, true, it is not currently a "kingdom" - it is one nation, not two nations of north and south any longer.

Who in your Beulah scenario is going to be the king of Beulah ?

Israel was reunified as ONE NATION (Two sticks prophesy of Ez. 37) after the Assyrian war because many from the Northern Kingdom fled to Judah/Jerusalem. Thus they were toted off to Babylon as the whole house of Israel, but of course the two southern tribes had more peoples in Judah/Jerusalem, but the tribe lives with just one man, even if the other two had a half million. Hs mistake is he demands those other people God says he FORSOOK FOREVER has to be added back in, no they don't, if one tribe got down to 1 man, and he had 10 baby boys, they each had 10, then that Tribe would have consisted of 100 men.