Are you planning to move to Heaven ?My prediction ---Will see you still posting on this board in 165 days.View attachment 194373
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Are you planning to move to Heaven ?My prediction ---Will see you still posting on this board in 165 days.View attachment 194373
Only 164 days to go...
Joel is different than Matthew 24, they are two different solar eclipses. The Matthew eclipse is a partial solar, it is not turned into darkness, just merely "darkened".
Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Are you planning to move to Heaven ?My prediction ---Will see you still posting on this board in 165 days.
I don't think anybody's going anywhere
I am right, Bible Prophecy is my proof.Keras has been warning us of a massive CME destroying most of the ME and he has posted supporting scripture. Have you been watching the sun? I sort of think Keras is right. There are massive coronal dark holes occurring in our sun. So, if we have a solar eclipse coupled with a huge coronal dark hole with a CME, that could really shake the Earth.
Whatever this is, it will not happen until after the Rapture and during Gods plagues, and it will only affect those who have taken the Mark pf the Beast.The Day of the Lord's wrath has nothing to do with any eclipse; a predictable event. It will come, as CME's do, without warning; like a thief, sudden and shocking everyone.
Whatever this is, it will not happen until after the Rapture and during Gods plagues, and it will only affect those who have taken the Mark pf the Beast.
This Astrology about this sign is not of God.
For starters there is no Sign coming about Rev. 12:1-5, it is a past event. It was written of course to tell us/inform us who the Woman/Dragon/male-child was. Mainly the first two, because the prophecy is about the Woman (Israel) being chased into the Wilderness by the Dragon (Satan). Why was Revelation ENCODED? Well for one if there had been a book written at that time that spoke about how Israel was being protected by God, when Rome had just destroyed Jerusalem and carried Jews away as slaves, the Romans would have seen that has treason/sedition. Rome being called a BEAST was also not a good idea etc. etc. Thus in order to get Rev. to the people, and to make sure the people reading such scriptures were not harmed, it had to be encoded. If the had wrote about Israel, and Rome we may not even have the book of Revelation, the Romans may have destroyed it. I imagine they looked at it and said John's a senile old kook.
There doesn't need to be a sign. Rev. 12:1-5 is a passed event. And we understand the prophecy, Israel is going to be chased into the wilderness by the Anti-Christ who is of the Dragon. When he can't get at Israel he starts killing Christians who became Christians after the Rapture, thus they are a REMNANT.
We can see that the Woman (Israel) birthing Jesus and Satan trying to kill him was a real time event. The vision is only describing who the PLAYERS ARE....Thus the vision is about a future event.There is no reason to ever consider it a past event. Four times in Revelation, we are told these are things that are still to take place (1:1, 1:19, 4:1, 22:6). Plus, I know people try to make it a picture of Jesus, but it doesn't fit the details of his ascension. This is something different.
We can see that the Woman (Israel) birthing Jesus and Satan trying to kill him was a real time event. The vision is only describing who the PLAYERS ARE....Thus the vision is about a future event.
Rev. 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
Is the a SIGN ALSO? Opps that doesn't fit the narrative.
Rev. 12 has nothing to do with a bunch of interconnected stars. I will be glad when Sep. 23 gets here. Will you guys still be here on that day is the question.
It is the male child not man child, that's your bad English translation.It doesn't say it is a sign birthing Jesus. That's reading into it our own definitions. It says the manchild is born who will rule the nations with a rod of iron. And then it says the manchild is raptured, harpazo, which Jesus did not experience at His ascension.
Who do you think the manchild is? Who rules the nations with a rod of iron. Take some time with this one.
Completely different sign, not in the scope of this discussion.
That's a funny excuse I keep hearing. We are told in both the OT and NT there will be signs in the last days in the sun, moon, and the stars. Along comes Rev 12 which incorporates all three, and we are just supposed to ignore it because there will be no such actual sign using the sun, moon, and stars? You can ignore it if you wish. I won't be joining you.
It is the male child not man child, that's your bad English translation.
#0730 G0142; TDNT - n/a; adj
—Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) a male
—Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon)
Probably from G0142; male (as stronger for lifting):—male, man.
—Strong's (Greek Dictionary of the New Testament)
Rev. 2:27 And he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.
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Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.”
Psalm 110:2 The Lord sends forth from Zion your mighty scepter. Rule in the midst of your enemies!
Who was to rule all Nations with a Rod of Iron. This is spoken of in the bible over and over. Jesus rules the Nations with a rod of Iron.
We have Genesis 37:9 that tells us who the Woman is...Israel. She had a male child that was hapazoed to Heaven to the throne of God.
Acts 7:55-56 But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing pat the right hand of God.”
Romans 8:34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us.
Ephesians 1:20 that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at is right hand in the heavenly places,
Colossians 3:1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
Hebrews 1:3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
Jesus now sits at the Right hand of God.
Those two questions you asked was already a well known fact. They were a part of my equation.
And it proves that Rev. 12 doesn't have to be STARS IN HEAVEN !!!
Yes, the Sun, Moon and Stars will be DARKENED !!!!!
NO....Its Jesus Christ. Come Sep. 24 you will see it bogus. And Jesus with the Rod of Iron is mentioned throughout the bible. And its MALE-CHILD.I told you to take your time with that one. You quoted it, but you still missed it. Revelation 2:27, who is the "he" that will rule with a rod of iron? The overcomer. The members of His Church.
Jesus is spoken of as ruling with a rod of iron, but so are the members of His Church. Both will rule with a rod of iron, and He tells us as much, that in His Kingdom we will rule and reign with Him.
The manchild is not an individual, but a corporate entity. We are told many times that Jesus is the head of the body and we are the members of the body. When we are raptured, Both the living and dead members of the body will be reunited with the head and this new entity will rule the nations with a rod of iron.
Your opinion conflicts with the Prophetic Word.Whatever this is, it will not happen until after the Rapture and during Gods plagues, and it will only affect those who have taken the Mark pf the Beast.
NO....Its Jesus Christ. Come Sep. 24 you will see it bogus. And Jesus with the Rod of Iron is mentioned throughout the bible. And its MALE-CHILD.
Jesus was taken up............How else did he get to Heaven where the Father is? United Airlines?
Come Sep. 24 you guys will not show up.
The Great and Terrible day of the Lord is Gods Judgment upon this world. Its the Seals/Trumpt and Vial Judgments.Your opinion conflicts with the Prophetic Word.
The great and terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath will be a worldwide disaster by fire from the sun. As over 100 prophesies vividly describe. Isaiah 66:15-17, Zechariah 3:8, Rev 6:12-17 Everybody will be affected, Luke 21:34-35, but the Middle east area mostly. Ezekiel 30:1-5, Zephaniah 2:4-6 +
The Church will be Raptured to Heaven. Jesus has no part in what the vision represents per se, except he is in a story that's told, ENCODED so we will understand who the Woman and Dragon is. That's what the prophecy is about. Telling a story about PAST EVENTS is not a Prophecy.It is most definitely Jesus, but it's also most definitely His Church as well. You posted the scripture yourself. Go back and read it with some honesty.
You do know the EXACT SAME WORD was used for both right? Harpazo means to be seized by force and taken up. The Holy Spirit took up Jesus and will take up the Church, BUT...it will happen before the Tribulation. The male-child is Jesus, not the Church, who is Raptured before the Tribulation.Yes, He was. I said that as well, but He wasn't raptured as the manchild is raptured.
That would likely be because come September 24th, we won't be here any longer.
The Church will be Raptured to Heaven. Jesus has no part in what the vision represents per se, except he is in a story that's told, ENCODED so we will understand who the Woman and Dragon is. That's what the prophecy is about. Telling a story about PAST EVENTS is not a Prophecy.
The Prophecy is this, God wants us to know that Israel is chased into the Wilderness by the Anti-Christ just after Satan is cast down from Heaven by Micheal. God wants Jewish peoples to understand, IF they obey His voice and Flee to the Wilderness He will protect them for the whole 1260 days (42 months) that the Anti-Christ rules Jerusalem. He also warns us this evil tyrant will then turn his anger towards the Christians (Remnant of the Church that's been raptured) who follow Jesus Christ.
Rev. 12:6-17 is what the Prophecy is about. Rev. 12:1-5 is PAST EVENTS Jesus is telling us who the Woman/Male-child/Dragon is with this Story. That's all. You can't have a Prophecy about PAST EVENTS.
You do know the EXACT SAME WORD was used for both right? Harpazo means to be seized by force and taken up. The Holy Spirit took up Jesus and will take up the Church, BUT...it will happen before the Tribulation. The male-child is Jesus, not the Church, who is Raptured before the Tribulation.
If we are taken before Sep. 24, it will not be because of Stars aligned with Imaginary drawings.
The Day of the Lord's wrath, the Sixth Seal; will be a single day of fire from the sun. Many prophesies detail this devastation that the Lord will send. It will commence all the prophesied events to happen before the Return of Jesus.The Great and Terrible day of the Lord is Gods Judgment upon this world. Its the Seals/Trumpt and Vial Judgments.
The Day of the Lord's wrath, the Sixth Seal; will be a single day of fire from the sun. Many prophesies detail this devastation that the Lord will send. It will commence all the prophesied events to happen before the Return of Jesus.
But the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls will last for 3 1/2 years and end with the Return.
Any other theory about the Revelation sequence, necessitates a shuffling of what is Written.
Does having written over 500 articles on the subject of Bible prophecy constitute 'lack of knowledge'? logostelos.infoYou once again you your lack of bible knowledge. I have done a study of every place in the bible that speaks about the Day of the Lord. IF......You did the same, it would be evident its not ONE DAY, but a period of time when Gods Wrath Starts till it ends.
And Gods Wrath starts at Seal number ONE and end at Vial number SEVEN.