Revealing quotes from revered scientists.

[Loudmouth]

You mean the mountains of evidence that aren't there.

29+ evidences for macroevolution:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

 

[Loudmouth]

No, bluff.

What does that even mean?

Is that the only response you have after misrepresenting the scientific method, not to mention twisting the words of others?

 

[Loudmouth]

I already did.
This doesn't make the quotes false.
Nor does it change anything about the decision of the church of mandatory naturalism to be unwilling to consider creation.

Naturalism can consider creationism when it can produce observable evidence. Naturalists aren't ignoring any evidence.

It isn't the fault of Naturalism that creationists have nothing but faith and bluster.

 

[Loudmouth]

Yes it is.

If the first life was created by a deity, and all life evolved from that first life as described by the theory of evolution, what exactly in the theory of evolution would have to be changed?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If the first life was created by a deity, and all life evolved from that first life as described by the theory of evolution, what exactly in the theory of evolution would have to be changed?

I don't think I've ever seen an answer for that question.

 

[Hieronymus]

No,

Yes.

 

[Hieronymus]

If the first life was created by a deity, and all life evolved from that first life as described by the theory of evolution,

Who are you kidding.
ToE describes nothing it just assumes "evolution did it", just meaning mutations survive selection.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Yes.

Stop being childish and actually try and be a decent adult and answer my request: Show me where in the scientific literature, the ACTUAL scientific literature, that evolution states what the origin of life is, not as a hypothesis but as a theory.
And stop giving childish, one word answers.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Who are you kidding.
ToE describes nothing it just assumes "evolution did it", just meaning mutations survive selection.

And here you go with the strawman again.

 

[Hieronymus]

And here you go with the strawman again.

How is this a straw man according to you?

 

[Hieronymus]

Stop being childish and actually try and be a decent adult and answer my request: Show me where in the scientific literature, the ACTUAL scientific literature, that evolution states what the origin of life is, not as a hypothesis but as a theory.
And stop giving childish, one word answers.

Stop whining.
You have no position to make demands.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

How is this a straw man according to you?

Because you are continually saying that evolution talks about the origin of life, and yet nowhere in the scientific literature does it make a comment on how life started.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Stop whining.
You have no position to make demands.

I have every right and am in every position to make demands. So, once again: Show me where in the scientific literature, the ACTUAL scientific literature, that evolution states what the origin of life is, not as a hypothesis but as a theory.

 

[Hieronymus]

I have every right and am in every position to make demands.

Sure you are.
Have fun with it while you believe this.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Sure you are.
Have fun with it while you believe this.

Show me where in the scientific literature, the ACTUAL scientific literature, that evolution states what the origin of life is, not as a hypothesis but as a theory.

 

[Hieronymus]

Because you are continually saying that evolution talks about the origin of life,

I explained that.
It's not really my problem you're not happy with my explanation.
You can try to refute it though, but you don't want to read what i actually wrote, otherwise you would understand.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I explained that.
It's not really my problem you're not happy with my explanation.
You can try to refute it though, but you don't want to read what i actually wrote, otherwise you would understand.

It's because 'explanation' is complete and utter bunk.
If your claim that we can't study history is correct, then all murder cases will be unsolvable.

 

[Hieronymus]

I explained that.
It's not really my problem you're not happy with my explanation.
You can try to refute it though, but you don't want to read what i actually wrote, otherwise you would understand.

But let's deal with it anyway:

Yes, i know the ToE is not about the assumed first life form coming into existence..

There, that should settle it.

 

[Hieronymus]

But let's deal with it anyway:

Yes, i know the ToE is not about the assumed first life form coming into existence..

There, that should settle it.

Funny thing is nobody has any idea what this first life form should have been.
But i guess it doesn't matter, it just 'evolved' anyway into present living nature including human life.

 

[The Cadet]

ToE describes nothing

...So we can add "evolution" to the list of things you know absolutely nothing about?