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respect and virginity

I don’t believe virgins are more respected.

  • don’t believe, virgins are more respected, yes

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respect and virginity
I really don’t, believe virgins are, more respected. I really don’t, feel a strong desire, to remain a virgin, for my wedding night. Because I really don’t, feel that marriage is important, in the modern world. Virginity really isn’t, important, because there really isn’t, many good reason, for a person to remain, a virgin. I really don’t, intend to remain, a virgin. A person really shouldn’t, remain a virgin, because I just don’t, feel a relationship between, respect and virginity.
You should not kiss, hold hands with, or have any unsupervised contact with a man until you are married.

I am not sure what the accepted definition of virgin is used today.
 
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using commas is good yes?

what is the differences in understanding between this

respect and virginity
I really don’t, believe virgins are, more respected. I really don’t, feel a strong desire, to remain a virgin, for my wedding night. Because I really don’t, feel that marriage is important, in the modern world. Virginity really isn’t, important, because there really isn’t, many good reason, for a person to remain, a virgin. I really don’t, intend to remain, a virgin. A person really shouldn’t, remain a virgin, because I just don’t, feel a relationship between, respect and virginity.


and this

respect and virginity
I really don’t believe virgins are more respected. I really don’t, feel a strong desire to remain a virgin for my wedding night. Because I really don’t feel that marriage is important in the modern world. Virginity really isn’t important because there really isn’t many good reason for a person to remain a virgin. I really don’t intend to remain, a virgin. A person really shouldn’t remain a virgin because I just don’t feel a relationship between respect and virginity.

or this

respect and virginity

I really don’t
believe virgins are
more respected.
I really don’t
feel a strong desire
to remain a virgin
for my wedding night.
Because I really don’t
feel that marriage is important
in the modern world.
Virginity really isn’t
important
because there really isn’t
many good reason, for a person to remain
a virgin. I really don’t
intend to remain
a virgin. A person really shouldn’t
remain a virgin
because I just don’t
feel a relationship between
respect and virginity.



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respect and virginity
I really don’t, believe virgins are, more respected. I really don’t, feel a strong desire, to remain a virgin, for my wedding night. Because I really don’t, feel that marriage is important, in the modern world. Virginity really isn’t, important, because there really isn’t, many good reason, for a person to remain, a virgin. I really don’t, intend to remain, a virgin. A person really shouldn’t, remain a virgin, because I just don’t, feel a relationship between, respect and virginity.

Commas should be used sparingly. Your second paragraph is the best one. (I underlined it for you)

Do not use a comma unless you need one. It is the punctuation equivalent of a pause in thought or speech. Here are a few of the most common uses:

Between two conflicting parts of a sentence: She wanted to go home, but she had to finish her work.

When listing more three or more things: She wanted to go home, eat dinner, watch a movie, and go to bed.

Connecting two different thoughts in a sentence: She finished her work, then went home.

There are other times you can use a comma, but you should read a book on English grammar to learn about them. (The book 'Eats, Shoots Leaves' was mentioned in an earlier post and may be worth a look.) Those are the ones you'll see most though.

You definitely, don't want, your sentence, to look like, this. It is very, annoying for, native English speakers.




JustMeSee: A virgin is someone who has not had sexual intercourse yet. If you want to get specific, you could say there is oral virginity, anal virginity, and vaginal virginity, but who really wants to get that specific? I don't. d:

OneMoreQuestion: The whole 'decaying society' thing is getting old. Obviously we're better off than cave dwellers. How could we have come so far if we were decaying at the same time? How does that make any sense at all? :doh:

You should not kiss, hold hands with, or have any unsupervised contact with a man until you are married.

Adorable.
 
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I married a virgin at 24 (us both) she had huge hangups around sex which hurt our relationship, but when it came time to be faithful she couldn't do it.

I seduced and married another man's mistress later in life, she has no sexual hangups & we are very happy.

I for all intents and purposes was never a virgin . . . that option wasn't given to me.

Three women have lost their virginity to me.

With this in mind, I think respect for virginity is cultural. I have HUGE respect for virginity, never took it where I didn't intend to marry, but only once "got it right" and waited till marriage. In that case it didn't help me, some guy came along with a fatter wallet and a slicker tongue while I was away from home fighting evil. What I come away with in terms of life lesson is: Virginity is great to respect but if there isn't a healthy mental-sexual situation it is pretty worthless . . . on the otherhand, a healthy mental-sexual situation can trump even some pretty harlot-like behavior (from either or both parties).

I, of course, have a huge ammount of envy for people who got to choose when to loose their virginity. I probably have a skewed view on it as a result, valuing that which has always been out of reach more highly than folks who have it and don't want it for whatever reason.
 
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I married a virgin at 24 (us both) she had huge hangups around sex which hurt our relationship, but when it came time to be faithful she couldn't do it.

I seduced and married another man's mistress later in life, she has no sexual hangups & we are very happy.

I for all intents and purposes was never a virgin . . . that option wasn't given to me.

Three women have lost their virginity to me.

With this in mind, I think respect for virginity is cultural. I have HUGE respect for virginity, never took it where I didn't intend to marry, but only once "got it right" and waited till marriage. In that case it didn't help me, some guy came along with a fatter wallet and a slicker tongue while I was away from home fighting evil. What I come away with in terms of life lesson is: Virginity is great to respect but if there isn't a healthy mental-sexual situation it is pretty worthless . . . on the otherhand, a healthy mental-sexual situation can trump even some pretty harlot-like behavior (from either or both parties).

I, of course, have a huge ammount of envy for people who got to choose when to loose their virginity. I probably have a skewed view on it as a result, valuing that which has always been out of reach more highly than folks who have it and don't want it for whatever reason.
That sucks. I have empathy for your bad times. I can relate to an extent.
 
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Just a tangent, but I really think it's a good idea to live with each other a while before marriage. I don't exactly have a lot to compare it against, other then stories from others. I moved in with my girlfriend in college and we moved around a few times. I'd say it was a good experience on how to deal with each other and smooths out the day to day issues. Like the state of cleanliness around the house, who does what chores, and how money is handled.


Also, this is an ethics board. That was an unethical use of commas in that first post.
 
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Just a tangent, but I really think it's a good idea to live with each other a while before marriage. I don't exactly have a lot to compare it against, other then stories from others. I moved in with my girlfriend in college and we moved around a few times. I'd say it was a good experience on how to deal with each other and smooths out the day to day issues. Like the state of cleanliness around the house, who does what chores, and how money is handled.


Also, this is an ethics board. That was an unethical use of commas in that first post.

That's a modern myth and really not necessary for a good marriage. People have got married for eons without playing house before the sacrament. I never lived with my husband before being married and we've never had these issues of how to handle these things. We took the time for extensive pre-marital counseling- to hash out potential problems. Christians aren't supposed to believe in trial runs because of our beliefs on the Eucharist and it's implications for us. Eleven years of marriage so far and we're still on the same page.
 
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Just a tangent, but I really think it's a good idea to live with each other a while before marriage. I don't exactly have a lot to compare it against, other then stories from others. I moved in with my girlfriend in college and we moved around a few times. I'd say it was a good experience on how to deal with each other and smooths out the day to day issues. Like the state of cleanliness around the house, who does what chores, and how money is handled.
That seems to work well for many people. Those people that don't live together before marriage should seriously consider the daily chores of being married. It isn't all a honeymoon.
 
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That's a modern myth and really not necessary for a good marriage. People have got married for eons without playing house before the sacrament.
Yeah, when the man wore the pants and if there was some friction over how things were done it left bruises and the wife went back into the kitchen.
Things are different now, women are equals.
 
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There is massive peer pressure today to have sex and be part of the crowd and not stand out so to speak. There are different levels to look at it, medically, religously, or from a before marriage perspective. I think love is the key factor, contraseption is a must also. I would recommend waiting to get to now the person you are dating and get a feel for who they are, their previous dates and their friends set as this all will play a part in their desire to have sex. You do not want to be a notch on the bedpost. I have three daughters and I would hope they all fall in love and not lust and that they can trust the person they are with with this very intimate thing that society has cheapened with the low social standards. This should be that same for boys also. Unfortunatly there is this high five mentality that seems to exsist with lads and having sex. Parents play a massive part also, boys should be taught to respect women, again sadly we see the massive amount of revenue to be earnt within the porn industry and cheap lads mags, which really are just a way of looking at women as a kind of play thing. I could go on but I will just say again, it's about love and trust, if they are not present don't go there.
 
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There is massive peer pressure today to have sex and be part of the crowd and not stand out so to speak. There are different levels to look at it, medically, religously, or from a before marriage perspective. I think love is the key factor, contraseption is a must also. I would recommend waiting to get to now the person you are dating and get a feel for who they are, their previous dates and their friends set as this all will play a part in their desire to have sex. You do not want to be a notch on the bedpost. I have three daughters and I would hope they all fall in love and not lust and that they can trust the person they are with with this very intimate thing that society has cheapened with the low social standards. This should be that same for boys also. Unfortunatly there is this high five mentality that seems to exsist with lads and having sex. Parents play a massive part also, boys should be taught to respect women, again sadly we see the massive amount of revenue to be earnt within the porn industry and cheap lads mags, which really are just a way of looking at women as a kind of play thing. I could go on but I will just say again, it's about love and trust, if they are not present don't go there.


why?
 
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You are giving something of yourself to somebody else. If there is no love or trust present then what you are giving is open to abuse. Sex without love is often pursued, ( recreational sex) so sex without the trust is probably the no go area. Athough I will add sex with contraception is never a fail safe against becoming pregant, so sex with only the trust and not the love can potentailly throw up the question of abortion which has it's own set of drama's again. If sex with love and trust present result in pregnancy there is a far greater chance that the decision that gets made on weather to abort will be done with all parties in mind, or ideally the birth of a child. The term virginity or marriage (which is just an extended term for two humans making a commitment togeather) are really man made things, in that thay are the structure that surrounds being human in todays world. Unfortunalty how you feel about yourself has nothing to do with that structure, it's really self respect that counts. If others are not respectful of the desicions that you make then don't be around them. So like most things in life, the descision to stay a virgin or not is yours to make.
 
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There's nothing intrinsically respectable about virginity unless you value women by the status of their hymen.

I agree. I know women who waited until their wedding night for intercourse. I knew others that began having intercourse in middle school. Neither should be judged or made to explain their reasoning for their actions. In OT times, there were not effective methods of contraception like there are today. Also, due to inheritance laws, knowing that all of your sons were actually your biological children was very important, and as DNA testing was not available, the only way to assure this was to make sure that women were virgins when they were married.
 
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There's nothing intrinsically respectable about virginity unless you value women by the status of their hymen. Which would be pretty barbaric, but possible if you're religious or beholden to a primitive religious morality.

Its not about the hymen. Its about the morale convictions, or lack of, of the hymen's owner.
 
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