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Republican Party on the Decline?

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Turnout for minorities and young people in midterm elections is FAR lower than Presidential elections. This election seemly represents the very motivated instead of the actual demographics of the U.S.

I predict Republicans will receive a total smack down in the next election year. It will be then that the decline of the Republican Party will become increasingly noticeable and clear.
 
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Turnout for minorities and young people in midterm elections is FAR lower than Presidential elections. This election seemly represents the very motivated instead of the actual demographics of the U.S.

I predict Republicans will receive a total smack down in the next election year. It will be then that the decline of the Republican Party will become increasingly noticeable and clear.

At least they'll have a couple years to prove themselves. Maybe that will change peoples' minds when they have the chance to compare the Republicans to the Democrats and the way they've done things the past 6 years. Then they can decide which party was better at that point. Of course, Obama will still be president the next 2 years, so he'll most likely try to find a way to mess things up and then say it was the Congress's fault.
 
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Turnout for minorities and young people in midterm elections is FAR lower than Presidential elections. This election seemly represents the very motivated instead of the actual demographics of the U.S.

I predict Republicans will receive a total smack down in the next election year. It will be then that the decline of the Republican Party will become increasingly noticeable and clear.


Republicans will still do well at the local level. It is at the national level that the demographic shift will be seen.
 
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At least they'll have a couple years to prove themselves. Maybe that will change peoples' minds when they have the chance to compare the Republicans to the Democrats and the way they've done things the past 6 years. Then they can decide which party was better at that point. Of course, Obama will still be president the next 2 years, so he'll most likely try to find a way to mess things up and then say it was the Congress's fault.

I don't think Republicans have a chance of winning substantial new voters because of demographic changes. The base of GOP, older white voters, are being constantly sold out and the growing % of non-white voters vote overwhelming in favor of the Democratic Party. Young people are also alienated by the GOP when it comes to social issues such as gay marriage and also they find the GOP's attachment to Christianity unappealing.

The GOP is also moving further and further to the left, as they are now defending many of the positions that was seen as radically left only a few decades ago. If both parties have the same philosophy, why would a left-leaning American vote for the watered down liberalism of the GOP?

IMO the GOP is doomed on the national level. I believe Belk is correct that on a local level they will have success though, but their influence on society as a whole will be extremely minimized.
 
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Turnout for minorities and young people in midterm elections is FAR lower than Presidential elections. This election seemly represents the very motivated instead of the actual demographics of the U.S.

I predict Republicans will receive a total smack down in the next election year. It will be then that the decline of the Republican Party will become increasingly noticeable and clear.

It seems like this is always happening. Minorities and young people vote during presidential elections, but don't in off years. I just don't understand it.
 
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It seems like this is always happening. Minorities and young people vote during presidential elections, but don't in off years. I just don't understand it.
Curiously, Harvard was surprised to find out that young people this election cycle preferred Republicans. Go figure ...
Surprising results from a poll conducted by Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government: Poll: Harvard John F. Kennedy School of Government
Cambridge, MA – A new national poll of America’s 18- to 29- year-olds by Harvard’s Institute of Politics (IOP), located at the John F. Kennedy School of Government, finds slightly more than half (51%) of young Americans who say they will “definitely be voting” in November prefer a Republican-run Congress with 47 percent favoring Democrat control – a significant departure from IOP polling findings before the last midterm elections
And a warm welcome to the new faces of the Republican party. :thumbsup:
 
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Curiously, Harvard was surprised to find out that young people this election cycle preferred Republicans. Go figure ...

Once you note that it says "those who will definitely be voting," the figure is less surprising.
 
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Turnout for minorities and young people in midterm elections is FAR lower than Presidential elections. This election seemly represents the very motivated instead of the actual demographics of the U.S.

I predict Republicans will receive a total smack down in the next election year. It will be then that the decline of the Republican Party will become increasingly noticeable and clear.

This is a general problem with the US electoral system, which doesn't mandate compulsory voting.
 
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This is a general problem with the US electoral system, which doesn't mandate compulsory voting.

I'd be very curious to see how an election would turn out if voting were compulsory! Especially if "none of the above" were an option on the ballot.

Wouldn't it be cool if "none of the above" won?? We'd probably need a whole new election with all new candidates....

-- A2SG, um, on second thought.....
 
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I don't think Republicans have a chance of winning substantial new voters because of demographic changes. The base of GOP, older white voters, are being constantly sold out and the growing % of non-white voters vote overwhelming in favor of the Democratic Party. Young people are also alienated by the GOP when it comes to social issues such as gay marriage and also they find the GOP's attachment to Christianity unappealing.

The GOP is also moving further and further to the left, as they are now defending many of the positions that was seen as radically left only a few decades ago. If both parties have the same philosophy, why would a left-leaning American vote for the watered down liberalism of the GOP?

IMO the GOP is doomed on the national level. I believe Belk is correct that on a local level they will have success though, but their influence on society as a whole will be extremely minimized.

Not necessarily. Although younger voters tend to lean liberal, many are also drawn to Libertarianism. These voters are arguably more closely aligned with the GOP than most Democrats. Going into the future, the Republican party may find that its base shifts from the eroding Religious Right to a vibrant Libertarian faction that may potentially attract broader appeal. That said, as it stands, it seems as though the Religious Right has a death grip on the party. Its stranglehold will either loosen over time, or it will take the GOP down with it. In my view, one should never underestimate the ability of any party to renew and reshape itself.
 
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Yes, in leftist humanist ideology labor serves "the state" until it's obsolete. Instead of paying into a system that we hopefully don't need until we get old, the Leftist state is more interested in keeping the young fit for maximum production.

There is some irony to this. I wonder if you can see it? If you replace the words 'leftist' and 'state,' you end up with something that a Marxist communist might say about the capitalist system.
 
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Not necessarily. Although younger voters tend to lean liberal, many are also drawn to Libertarianism. These voters are arguably more closely aligned with the GOP than most Democrats. Going into the future, the Republican party may find that its base shifts from the eroding Religious Right to a vibrant Libertarian faction that may potentially attract broader appeal. That said, as it stands, it seems as though the Religious Right has a death grip on the party. Its stranglehold will either loosen over time, or it will take the GOP down with it. In my view, one should never underestimate the ability of any party to renew and reshape itself.

Rand Paul. He got his MD from Duke University, so he is a really smart guy. Maybe add Ben Carson as VP candidate in 2016. Two super genius doctors to run the country would be a huge step up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul
 
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Rand Paul. He got his MD from Duke University, so he is a really smart guy. Maybe add Ben Carson as VP candidate in 2016. Two super genius doctors to run the country would be a huge step up.

Hey, with that ticket in mind, who knew you were a staunch Hilary supporter!

-- A2SG, that'd just about guarantee her victory all right....
 
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Since we're doubling down on Republicans in the early 20th century, allow me to introduce some Democrats during that same time period ... just for the sake of perspective.
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Fair enough point. But, it is what it is.
I know. I work in a field dominated by youngsters. ;)

My employer regularly wants to know when I'm going to retire. My answer is always that I'm having too much fun to retire. :D
 
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another possible reason why the GOP is not in decline:



In Michigan - Democrats Get More Votes, Lose Anyway

In the 14 congressional races, Democrats received more votes than Republicans:

Democrats: 1,515,716 (49.15%)
Republicans: 1,463,854 (47.47%)

Democrats got more votes, but Republicans were victorious (again) in 9 of the 14 races. They accomplished that by stuffing as many Democrats into as few districts as possible. The average margin of victory for winning Dems was 86,410; the average GOP win margin was 42,243.





The Michigan Curmudgeon: Democrats Get More Votes, Lose Anyway
 
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another possible reason why the GOP is not in decline:



In Michigan - Democrats Get More Votes, Lose Anyway

In the 14 congressional races, Democrats received more votes than Republicans:

Democrats: 1,515,716 (49.15%)
Republicans: 1,463,854 (47.47%)

Democrats got more votes, but Republicans were victorious (again) in 9 of the 14 races. They accomplished that by stuffing as many Democrats into as few districts as possible. The average margin of victory for winning Dems was 86,410; the average GOP win margin was 42,243.

If they are not careful they will end up with a Republican President then where will they be?

After more money has been given to the billionaires to salt away abroad there will be less to go around,
never mind they will still tell themselves and their kids that they live in the finest country in the world,
not the fairest or the safest or even the one with the best health care system in the world,
[last in every survey taken of industrialised nations throughout the world]
 
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If they are not careful they will end up with a Republican President then where will they be?

After more money has been given to the billionaires to salt away abroad there will be less to go around,
never mind they will still tell themselves and their kids that they live in the finest country in the world,
not the fairest or the safest or even the one with the best health care system in the world,
[last in every survey taken of industrialised nations throughout the world]

It always amuses me when I hear accusations of Republicans giving money to billionaires and other rich people and companies. What these people always fail to recognize is that when a company decides to open a store someplace, they have to factor in the cost to know if it will be productive and profitable to do so. If the cost is too high, they go elsewhere. If a governor gives the company a tax break to lure the business to their state, then the liberals come out of the woodwork claiming, "He's giving tax breaks to wealthy business owners!". They also fail to recognize that these "wealthy business owners" need to hire people like you and me to run their business. Jobs, in other words.
 
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another possible reason why the GOP is not in decline:



In Michigan - Democrats Get More Votes, Lose Anyway

In the 14 congressional races, Democrats received more votes than Republicans:

Democrats: 1,515,716 (49.15%)
Republicans: 1,463,854 (47.47%)

Democrats got more votes, but Republicans were victorious (again) in 9 of the 14 races. They accomplished that by stuffing as many Democrats into as few districts as possible. The average margin of victory for winning Dems was 86,410; the average GOP win margin was 42,243.





The Michigan Curmudgeon: Democrats Get More Votes, Lose Anyway

That is what they call gerrymandering, yes? Don't both political parties do that sort of thing when they can though?
 
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