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Aldebaran said:We'll see which way the wind is actually blowing in about 4 days from now. Polls are currently showing the Senate being taken over by Republicans. I think it's clear the Obama Messiah hasn't lived up to his promises and now the Dems are going to be paying the price for that.
Albion said:Aww. You're just advising a party you don't care for to do what's not in its best interests.That's not the basis for a serious discussion here. And BTW, the way to grow our economy is to CUT taxes. That's rudimentary. Not only would cutting taxes produce more revenue, but it's obviously a drag on the economy to raise taxes. More government jobs do not grow the economy, and if you doubt it, just review how the past five years have gone.
Over promise, under deliver. Have you ever met a politician who hasn't done that?
Aldebaran said:No. But I'll be happy to have the Republicans in charge again. People have different priorities. Some people care about women's rights, education, "fairness", symbolic gestures, safety, government doing more, etc., while other care about religion, gun rights, freedom, less government control, etc. There's always going to be people not liking who's in charge at the time.
First, stop listening to NPR. There is nothing neutral about its reporting. Second, there has to be serious tax-cutting--if you want the results you are after. And third, you're only fooling yourself if you think that a modest cut of a few percentage points in the Federal Income Tax will work WHILE deductions and exemptions are eliminated or reduced in order to offset the rate cut, AND state taxes, local taxes and excise taxes go up steadily. All that this does, debate-wise, is allow skeptics to say "It didn't work." Well, no, "it" won't work unless you REALLY DO IT!Source for the cutting of taxes improves the economy.
From what I have been reading on NPR and other sources, it seems cutting taxes has not helped create new jobs. The wealthy just get to keep more of their money.
LoL so we are stuck between two camps. How do we make a country work, if we can't set aside our differences and work together.
That is one of the funniest things about this forum. People will complain, blame, and argue, but at the end of the day there has been no common ground met, nor progress made. We and everyone in this country are absolute failures in both teamwork and cooperation. What happened?
How did the greatest generation succeed in cooperation and sharing a set of principles despite leaning left or right?
I think it depends on what they are cooperating on. In the greatest generation, they were united because we had been attacked at Pearl Harbor. That same cooperation and unity happened after 9/11. Big things tend to unite people. But when things get personal, such as taking away one person's rights versus someone else's, then divisions happen. I think that's a good case for small government because government's role is to deal with the big issues, such as national defense. But when they get involved in whether a Christian baker can refuse to bake a cake for a SSM wedding, or how short the barrel on a shotgun can be, or how many ounces a soda pop can be served in a cup, then problems start.
The American people seem to the very last thing on Republicans minds, party party party, any left and it's party again.
If the Republicans get back into power all that will happen is the rich will become even richer and the poor poorer.
Will they repeal Obama care? no chance, they will throw more money at it and claim it as their own.
Anyone here think the government shutdown was a good idea, the Republican party did, who suffered? not them,
did it bother them? not in the slightest.
The American people seem to the very last thing on Republicans minds, party party party, any left and it's party again.
Funny how Republicans or right wingers continually call President Obama the "Messiah". To this day I have yet to see any lib or Dem do that.
I guess that means the Rev. Louis Farrakhan has suddenly become a flaming Rightwinger.Funny how Republicans or right wingers continually call President Obama the "Messiah". To this day I have yet to see any lib or Dem do that.
Or is it the case that the folks who think they're so smart here and now to talk like "Don't hold your breath for a complete rundown on all the Republican proposals!" weren't paying much attention at the time?
I well remember several complete proposals made by different Republican Senators, and while I don't think anyone is going to remember every line in a document hundreds of pages long, I do remember --in answer to the specific issue mentioned here--that it was proposed by several that to take care of the poor and uninsured we'd do better just to enlarge Medicaid to cover them. Yes, there were a bunch of counterproposals. Of course, Obama and Reid weren't interested in either transparency or reaching across any aisles because they figured that they didn't have to.
And now...back to the topic.
Their opposition to the ACA, aka "Obamacare" is probably the most blatant example, as the plan was theirs to begin with, the GOP championed it in the 90s, and the instant Obama and the democrats agreed to it, they're against it. Vehemently. No matter that it's a conservative, market-driven plan, both things that are well within their wheelhouse. Mitt Romney, the last person the GOP supported for President, knew this, he even implemented the plan here in Massachusetts before the GOP decided it wasn't good enough anymore....for some reason.
I guess that means the Rev. Louis Farrakhan has suddenly become a flaming Rightwinger.
Even though Obamacare was far from perfect, at least it reduced the uninsured rate and made some improvements here and there. With the Republicans, the most offensive thing about their healthcare "plan" is that it doesn't really aim to reduce the uninsured rate or serve as a starting point that could eventually lead to an even better system...it feels as if the Republicans have put forth their plan simply to say they have one.
Because, let's be realistic...do we really think that if the Republicans had taken the White House in 2008 that healthcare reform would've been on their priority list?
We'll see which way the wind is actually blowing in about 4 days from now. Polls are currently showing the Senate being taken over by Republicans.
Not suggesting that Republicans alone are guilty of this, but they do seem to be quite adept at it.
We don't take him seriously; why do you?
Republicans or right wingers continually call President Obama the "Messiah". To this day I have yet to see any lib or Dem do that.
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