It's quite clear you understood very little of my explanation of Luke 17:3.Well, I do not see how you resolved Luke 17:3.
But if you want to try and tackle another verse, how about Acts of the Apostles 8:22. It says,
"Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee." (Acts of the Apostles 8:22).
Here we see Peter tell Simon to repent of his one time wickedness of trying to pay for the Holy Ghost. Peter tells Simon he is to pray to God and see if perhaps that the thought he had in his heart may be forgiven him. So here we see the word "repent" tied with asking God for forgiveness by way of prayer. Why? Because that is what the word "repent" means.
I'll try once more with the next case, because other readers may be able to clarify and better their understanding, or argue logically against me:
"Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee." (Acts of the Apostles 8:22).
Acts 8:9-24
9Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, 10and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, “This man is rightly called the Great Power of God.” 11They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his sorcery. 12But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw.
14When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
18When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
20Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord in the hope that he may forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. 23For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin.”
24Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”
It's a long passage, but these are the relevant details:
Here we have Simon the sorcerer observe Peter giving the Holy Spirit to a believer. He thinks it will be very good to have this ability, so he tries to buy it from Peter.
Peter states Simon is not right before God, is full of bitterness and sin. He was popular and had many followers. But Peter is more powerful, so he lost his followers, and he himself can't help but follow Peter. Now he sees a chance to share the power and grabs it.
So Peter is right about Simon's bitterness and his mindset, his thinking about how to live, which is to serve weak idols for perishable gain, which is selfishness, sin, instead of serving the Creator for heavenly treasure, which is to see his friends in heaven, loving our brothers.
Peter curses Simon and his money, because he has fallen away, broken his baptism promise to serve God, just like Israel did in the wilderness, backsliding to serving self. It didn't matter that neither Simon or Israel did not understand what was needed to serve God, they were adults and their words could be used to condemn them, and because adults must be careful in what they say when making commitments or when arguing with what the Holy Spirit tells them, because loose words we used will be used to condemn us . If a believer does not understand his situation after baptism, he must lean towards humility in his responses. When God withheld food from Israel, she complained. She could have asked for help. Or accepted God's will, like Christ did:
Matthew 4:4
But Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"
When God was not with Israel, she tested Him, made Him angry, by going out to fight the enemy and his army on her own.
She could have acted better, like Christ, and not tried to grab power:
Matthew 4:5-7
5Then the devil took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple,
6and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written,
‘HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU’;
and
‘ON their HANDS THEY WILL BEAR YOU UP,
SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.’”
7Jesus said to him, “On the other hand, it is written, ‘YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.’”
In fact that was what Simon did. Because he was baptized, he thought he was entitled.
So we see what Peter wants changed, the thoughts of Simon's heart, his mindset. He wants Simon Magus to change his mind, his wrong impression of what baptism entitles him to, allows him to do!
To see that repentance is not “asking for God's forgiveness” let's take the test case again:
"Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee." (Acts of the Apostles 8:22)
If repent means “asking for God's forgiveness” then Peter would not have said it twice . This is called redundancy. It like going to a shop and asking if any new innovations have arrived.
Therefore, " repent" and "pray to God for forgiveness" are two different actions, just as changing your mind from thinking your action has not hurt someone, to thinking it HAS hurt someone, is one action, and because of that, believing that apologizing, asking for forgiveness is necessary, which is a resultant but separate act.
Next case please.
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