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Proof/evidence, please.
Why would you believe a straight person can turn gay? that doesn't make sense, sexual orientation is unchangeable, no credible mental health foundation would agree with that assertion.I believe that it happens, and I've spent zero time researching it as I don't really care that much. So I can't prove it happens, just like it can't be proven that it doesn't.
Why would you believe a straight person can turn gay? that doesn't make sense, sexual orientation is unchangeable, no credible mental health foundation would agree with that assertion.
Would they go back to a girl again? do they still have attraction to women? did they always have attraction both sexes? those would be important questions, but the only thing that would make sense is "yes" to all 3 of these questions.Good thing I don't work at a credible mental health foundation, then.
I've had past experiences where I've known people who changed their sexual orientation, left their boyfriend/girlfriend for someone of the same sex. Does this rule out the possibility of bisexuality? Of course not, but in several cases the person in question didn't show any hint of bisexuality prior to their "change". I'm just using my personal experiences to come to my conclusion, this is not evidence.
Would they go back to a girl again? do they still have attraction to women? did they always have attraction both sexes? those would be important questions, but the only thing that would make sense is "yes" to all 3 of these questions.
Yes, I don't believe that it could happen. I believe that person must've been attracted to both sexes to start. Until I see some concrete evidence pointing in the opposite direction, I will stay firm in these beliefs.Why would that make sense? I've never had this problem personally, so I can't say what a person going through this would or wouldn't do.
So you are saying its impossible for someone to be attracted to the opposite sex, for most of their young and adult life, then all of a sudden decide they are no longer attracted to the opposite sex?
No I dont think thats the implication. What I said was that all things are possible with God. we make disciples of all nations (Matt 28) so there is no distinction in Gods eyes for skin colour, however the Bible says same-sex sex is error 1 Cor 6 and some used to be homosexual offenders. So we have an example of what I was referring to, I am not aware of any example of your assumption.The implication being that God can also change a persons skin color should that person pray hard enough. So...does God do this?
Well if all things are possible why shouldnt changing skin color like changing sexual orientation?Dear MrPirate
No I dont think thats the implication. What I said was that all things are possible with God. we make disciples of all nations (Matt 28) so there is no distinction in Gods eyes for skin colour, however the Bible says same-sex sex is error 1 Cor 6 and some used to be homosexual offenders. So we have an example of what I was referring to, I am not aware of any example of your assumption.
All things are possible with God yes!!!!!Well if all things are possible why shouldnt changing skin color like changing sexual orientation?
Phinehas2 said:however the Bible says same-sex sex is error 1 Cor 6 and some used to be homosexual offenders.
Why would you use 1 Cor. 6:9 as a passage against same sex sex to Mr. Pirate, when both he and I have posted evidence to the contrary of this passage? Once again, the word "arsenokoitai" is not universally agreed upon by not only all translations, but by all credible Bible Scholars.
Claiming something is a fact implies actual evidence to back it up.
And…surprise surprise. You provided no evidence for this “fact”
gee…bisexual people getting married. Who would have thought?
Again this claim of “facts” yet no facts provided
No one, including Ms. Heche, is claiming she is or was gay or that these is now heterosexual for that matter.
Particularly since the claims made by you are unfounded
Gee…like predicting David Bowie is bisexual ….
Just like no one can tell if a person is right or left handed at the moment of birth….oh wait…you probably didn’t want any facts like that in this little discussion…sorry…carry on.
Why would something imaginary happen in front of my eyes?I've seen it for myself first-hand. You'll never see it even if it happens right in front of you.
Seems to me you were the one assigning sexual orientations. In fact despite your current claim that you dont think of people in such terms you managed to assign sexual orientations to various public figures. So what was up with your rationalizing things in that post?I think people are just plain sexual myself. I understand you need definitions to rationalize things.
Untrue and you know itAll you have is a theory as well.
I cant find invisible purple unicorns from Mars who use their telepathic abilities to control the United States Post Office according to you the fact no one can find such postally concerned alien unicorns is not evidence that they dont exist.Even if you can't find a sex-orientation conversion, it still doesn't prove you are right about immutability.
I thought you werent into such labels let me quote you form this very thread: I think people are just plain sexual myself.So what is she then -- let's see you theory prove immutability on an "a priori" basis, like the way science works.
How does this address the fact that your claims were and remain unsupported by actual evidence?Well then show how you can tell a gay person at birth since your theory is so scientific. That should be real easy if your theory is indeed science.
Perhaps because he self identifies as such .but wait you have once again forgotten that you are not into such labelsWhat makes you so sure?
It is and remains an accurate comparison.I love these left-hand right-hand analogies.
It is and remains an accurate comparison.Let's see umm .... gay and straight is like left-handedness and right-handedness, where a person is just born that way. This proves it.
A right handed person who looses an arm can learn to compensate but will always remain right handed.A right handed person that loses his hand can learn to use his left hand, just like a gay person can learn to be straight. This proves it as well.
The truth remains the truthGreat analogy!! Good point!!! Perfect logic!!! thank you! thank you! *bow*
Can you explain the difference between racism and what is being discussed here?lol, i'm not sure they wanted it to work that way, i'd stay to the skin color thing, cuz it makes us look like racists.
Can someone truly be "cured" of homosexuality? several religious groups say so, while practically every single major medical association in the world condemns it. What do you think? can homosexuals change their orientation? I myself don't and find the whole idea that I can become straight to be crazy.
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