Remember SILENT SCREAM

[Stinker]

This is a documentary filmed in the early 1980s. It should be in every dvd retail store around the world, but it is not. It's narrator performed over 60,000 abortions in his career. In the film he explains in detail how abortions are performed in the clinics...step by step. The film of an abortion being performed while the fetus is very visable on ultrasound, is where the documentary gets it's title.

Towards the end of the documentary the narrator tells how these abortion clinics started multiplying "like fast food chains" around the country after the 1973 Supreme Court decision. That organized crime was heavily involved in these clinics. Strange how they can smell where the big $$$ is.

 

[Chajara]

Which is why we need a lower rate of unwanted pregnancies for those who get pregnant and either freak out at the idea of it or just decide they don't want to be a parent. We also need better prenatal care and medical advances for women who have complications during pregnancy that require an abortion to right things. And don't tell me that doesn't happen, because it happened to me. My child would be entering preschool right about now if my body hadn't gone berzerk as soon as the pregnancy hormones hit my bloodstream.

Less unwanted/unhealthy pregnancies = less abortions

 

[Helo]

I posted my suggestion on how to fix this problem

http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=21830200#post21830200

 

[flicka]

It's a planned parenthood sight so feel free to consider it propaganda...just as the film itself is. We can't take either/or as the absolute truth because there isn't an unbiased opinion anywhere to be found.

 

[Stinker]

Far as I could tell, no one in that documentart was a Christian. This so-called 'Doctor' said what made him stop the practice was advanced technology. He said nothing about having converted to Christ. He stated that this new technology convinced him that we are much more human a whole lot more early than what he had been taught.

Propaganda? I don't think so. This guy came your camp, not the Christian's camp.

 

[loriersea]

The film was debunked long ago. It acted as though the fetus was feeling pain when in fact it was at a stage of development where pain was physiologically impossible. It's a movie that is full of lies, and if it's the best you can come up with as an argument for why we should return to the days of women bleeding to death from back alley and DIY abortions, then you really should rethink your position.

It's actually kind of funny to think that you'd believe that organized crime is heavily involved in the LEGAL abortion industry, when in fact it is ILLEGAL industries--drugs, alcohol during Prohobition--where organized crime really does well. If abortion were made illegal again, THAT'S when we would see organized crime making a killing (and a literal one, considering how many women would die) off of it.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/abortion/silentscream.HTM

 

[levi501]

Fun family film... lots of laughs... 2 thumbs up.

 

[Monica02]

This is a documentary filmed in the early 1980s. It should be in every dvd retail store around the world, but it is not. It's narrator performed over 60,000 abortions in his career. In the film he explains in detail how abortions are performed in the clinics...step by step. The film of an abortion being performed while the fetus is very visable on ultrasound, is where the documentary gets it's title.

Towards the end of the documentary the narrator tells how these abortion clinics started multiplying "like fast food chains" around the country after the 1973 Supreme Court decision. That organized crime was heavily involved in these clinics. Strange how they can smell where the big $$$ is.

I have a copy ,but I have not watched it yet. Who is the narrator? I have heard the stories of a couple former abortionists who have become pro-life activists. I think their names were Nathanson and Levintino. You should do a search and read about them. Also Norma McCorvey is another great story.
I have never heard about organized crime being heavily involved in the abortion industry, although money is the main force driving this sick industry.

 

[Monica02]

The stories of former abortionists are very compelling and interesting. Their about-face is miraculous. I am proud of them for stopping their horrible profession and speaking out on behalf of the unborn.

The pro-abort, feminist lawyers that used Norma McCorvey's case to legalize abortion would have found another case to fill their need, so I doubt if abortion would not have beenlegalized without Norma McCorvey.
Her story is also compelling and worth reading and I thank GOd that she has come home to the Catholic Church. I will pray for you to do the same.

 

[Monica02]

Abortionists do kill unborn children, but God does forgive people and change their lives and this is indeed miraculous and wonderful.

If Norma McCorvey had not cooperated with the pro-abort feminists, they would simply have found someone else. That was my point. I am thrilled that Norma McCorvey has become a voice in the pro-life movement.

I will continue to pray for God to change your heart and bring you into the Church. Perhaps you will become a voice for the innocent unborn. I have faith!

 

[Stinker]

I remember seeing the film years ago and that fetus was indeed screaming. Everyone should go to the link that loriersea posted and check out the claims of the Pro-life camp and rebuttals by the Pro-abortionists.

The one that so reveals the Pro-abortionist (in my opinion) is that they say that 'a fetus cannot scream because to scream it takes lungs with air in them in order to do that' Oh my lands! Wake up!

 

[flicka]

I remember seeing the film years ago and that fetus was indeed screaming. Everyone should go to the link that loriersea posted and check out the claims of the Pro-life camp and rebuttals by the Pro-abortionists.

The one that so reveals the Pro-abortionist (in my opinion) is that they say that 'a fetus cannot scream because to scream it takes lungs with air in them in order to do that' Oh my lands! Wake up!

I'm awake, I swear!
I don't see the problem here...you say you saw a scream, but since it is impossible to scream you obviously did not. You saw something else that you interpret to be a scream because it fits your belief.. I'm not saying its the most compelling prochoice arguement but it does address the name of the movie...

 

[loriersea]

A fetus at 12 weeks cannot scream. First, it is entirely incapable of feeling pain, as the parts of the brain that make pain perception possible are not developed until the third trimester. Second, a scream requires lungs with air in them (I'm not sure why you find biological facts so ridiculous), and a fetus does not begin to do anything approximating breathing until well into the third trimester (around 32 weeks or so a fetus usually first begins to "practice" breathing for when it is born). Third, the whole point of the movie is to make the viewer believe that the fetus is feeling pain and crying out in protest. However, the facts of fetal development prove that no such thing is possible. At 12 weeks, a fetus isn't even capable of sensing pain, much less having emotions. Emotions cannot occur until there is some degree of higher brain activity, and that doesn't begin until the late second trimester.

The movie is full of lies and emotional manipulations.

 

[JeffreyLloyd]

A fetus at 12 weeks cannot scream. First, it is entirely incapable of feeling pain, as the parts of the brain that make pain perception possible are not developed until the third trimester. Second, a scream requires lungs with air in them (I'm not sure why you find biological facts so ridiculous), and a fetus does not begin to do anything approximating breathing until well into the third trimester (around 32 weeks or so a fetus usually first begins to "practice" breathing for when it is born). Third, the whole point of the movie is to make the viewer believe that the fetus is feeling pain and crying out in protest. However, the facts of fetal development prove that no such thing is possible. At 12 weeks, a fetus isn't even capable of sensing pain, much less having emotions. Emotions cannot occur until there is some degree of higher brain activity, and that doesn't begin until the late second trimester.

The movie is full of lies and emotional manipulations.

If that helps you sleep at night...

 

[Chajara]

If that helps you sleep at night...

I had an abortion out of necessity several years ago, and it helps ME sleep at night. I hate that I lost what would have become my own beautiful child, but I'd be much more distraught had I been forced to make the decision later on in the pregnancy when the baby surely would have felt at least some pain.

 

[JeffreyLloyd]

Ok, let's do an experiment.

Exhale deeply so there's no air in your lungs. Then submerge yourself in water compltely.

Now, scream.

Did you hear anything?

So because you believe the baby can't actually scream, it's okay for the baby to be murdered?

Yeah, that makes sense.

 

[cobaltburrito]

So because you believe the baby can't actually scream, it's okay for the baby to be murdered?

The whole focus was that the fetus was screaming because it was in pain. She simply refuted that.

 

[loriersea]

So because you believe the baby can't actually scream, it's okay for the baby to be murdered?

Yeah, that makes sense.

Well, the ones who came up with that logic were the ones who made the movie, not the people posting here.

The movie makes the argument, as much of the propaganda produced by those who favor illegal abortion does, that the 12-week-old fetus is suffering and in pain. That is a lie. A 12-week-old fetus does not have any physiological capability for feeling pain, at all.

If the makers of The Silent Scream had better arguments, they should have made them.

 

[jinkazama]

Abortion=immoral, lack of respondibility of using condoms, resort to desperation

 

[Helo]

Abortion=immoral, lack of respondibility of using condoms, resort to desperation

Not always. Abortion is performed for any number of reasons