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Remarriage bad news for those who have no problem with it

mikeforjesus

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I'm sorry but I have to disagree I think everyone has the gift virginity and celibacy is a chosen path but it should only be used for someone who needs your love if they regret their choices. If virginity was a gift I must have it or otherwise God is not looking after me to give me a spouse. It is because He knows I can handle virginity
Also but we don't know if someone needs love they may deny it and even if they do not now they may benefit later therefore you can choose to be celibate not saying excuse I don't have the gift. God might work miracles but you don't have to in that case if you absolutely know they do not care for your sacrifice at all and will still get remarried even if you do
 
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I guess not all have the gift
ok - we agree.
but it can be given to all if you seek it.
Where do you get that from? Scripture says you get it if and ONLY if the Holy Spirit wills it, and it seems the general consensus of scripture is that only a few are willed to get it.

Can I get the gift of healing or word of knowledge by seeking it? No. Charismatic gifts are given by the Holy Spirit "... to each one individually just as He wills." 1 Cor 12.11b
 
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This is what I plan to do but I'm not sure I will withdraw from remarrying especially if I have no children if I don't have gift (I think the fact of having children may satisfy me enough to feel complete and not want anything else) if I feel remarriage really does help control my desires and the person I am sacrificing for with prayer looks like they dont need my sacrifice at all since they are not depressed about messing up and betraying me
I think it's wrong to say that celibacy is unobtainable unless gifted because there are many who have to obey or get married so I think your on the right track. Otherwise how can anyone get anywhere in an unmarried state. I think that abstaining from unmarried sex is equivalant to what those who have a burning desire for the same sex are expected to do also.
 
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Marriage can be difficult. I am sure God understands us. He made us. We are individuals and I am sure God treats us as such. Some can handle things better than others.

May God's will be done....
 
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To be honest earthly happiness is now why we have life. Maybe before the apple it was. But since the apple things changed. Our real happiness is after we die. The point of being alive is to worship God and in this case spread the Word. Crossing the finish line despite the suffering is our goal in terms of making it to the end. People who focus on happiness in this life have missed what the bible talks about. It isn't to say what we do isn't important in this life, because after all we are to spread the Word so others are saved.

Which is why I find many divorcees refuse to accept they had to stay married to whoever they were with, even in abusive situations. You are 100% going to have problems in life, even problems that are so hard you probably wish you were not alive. So trying to outrun every problem is not possible. Does this mean someone has to stay with someone who for example beats them daily? No. What it does mean is you still have to remain married and MOVE out or kick them out. As a christian you cannot divorce them. They will either try to work things out with you or they will divorce you. In which case fight the divorce. If all else fails and you are stuck having to sign papers then do so of your own free will.

But divorcing means staying single forever after said divorce because in Gods eyes you are still married. Now people are often like "Wait what?!? So your saying I have to remain single just because they chose to divorce me? That doesn't sound fair! What about my life and happiness?".

Well what about it? Sacrifice, suffering...etc are part of our life while we are in these bodies. Me? I am disabled, I have bad health and often it gets worse. I've lost so much of my life from my health issues that I used to hate God for it. I felt He didn't care because my He wasn't giving me what I want and I wasn't happy. Then I realize I was so focused on being happy in this life that I failed to see being happy is not the point of this life. I mean theres nothing wrong with lets say going to see a movie or going camping...etc. But its not our mission here. Its not our end goal.

And I said this with caution if God forbid it happens to me, but this is why going into a marriage means realizing the sacrifice required not only to be married, but if the marriage ends too. When I think of what I would do if my wife even left me, I think it would be very hard. I'd probably get frustrated to at first because being single forever seems unfair. But I'd then accept it. I have to. I have no choice in the matter. Unless I care to marry someone else and have God scold me when I stand before Him because I was living in sin and committing adultery with someone since He still sees me as married to my wife. Which is why the best thing one who is divorced can do is pray they can remarry their spouse one day if things get better.

Or if the ex passes away you can marry someone else. My wifes mother never divorced her husband because it was against the law in their country. About two years ago, after waiting 29 years, the husband died and she was free to look for love again. Now shes looking! It was a hard sacrifice for her to wait that long since her husband had moved on and had another family with some other woman, but she survived the wait and feels wonderful.

And honestly I find to many adults today just marry young because of peer pressure and feeling they have to marry young because everyone else is and they have to have kids right away...etc. They watch so many worldly fantasy "happily ever after" movies and don't understand thats not real life. Its a fairy tale. Which is why I tell them do not look for love or marry until your over 25, maybe even 30. Studies have proven are brains are not mature enough to handle marriage before 25. We still have that teen thinking stuck in us that makes us take action first, then think later. Where as when our brains mature, we think first, then take the right actions....usually.
The way a lot of professing evangelicals talk, it's as if Paul never wrote:

"But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife." (1 Corinthians 7.11).
 
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Paul said it is better the widows remain as they are therefore they all can
Paul said young widows should remarry. In fact, he said that the church should not allow young widows to dedicate themselves to the church and should not take them into the church;s care. That they should remarry.
1Ti 5:14 I wish, therefore, younger ones to marry, to bear children, to be mistress of the house, to give no occasion to the opposer to reviling;
 
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Widows are permitted to remarry but paul said they are happier single

1 Corinthians 7:7-9
7 For I wish that all men were even as I myself. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that.
8 But I say to the unmarried and to the
widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; 9 but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

1 Timothy 5:11-12
11 But refuse the younger widows; for when they have begun to grow wanton against Christ, they desire to marry, 12 having condemnation because they have cast off their first faith.

Then it explains because they are idle and busy bodies etc he wants them to remarry but notice they are widows not someone with a failed marriage where the former spouse is still alive.
He allows this because he knows they are unhappy because they are weak worldly people and may behave in bad and worse ways as Christian

1Ti 5:14 I wish, therefore, younger ones to marry, to bear children, to be mistress of the house, to give no occasion to the opposer to reviling;
 
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If I left my new spouse that would also be sin -- yet another sin.

Ask forgiveness for the past -- repent -- love and stay with the wife of today.

M-Bob
 
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If I left my new spouse that would also be sin -- yet another sin.

Ask forgiveness for the past -- repent -- love and stay with the wife of today.

M-Bob

Sometimes one cannot stay with a marriage partner. God knows this. He is understanding and merciful.
 
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Widows are permitted to remarry but paul said they are happier single
True. But staying single pre-supposes one has the gift of celibacy.
 
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