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Religion or denominations are not inherently evil or wicked. Man does that. They began by those of like beliefs meeting together to study and fellowship. Say you have a large body of believers, truly Christ followers... yet on a few points not pertaining to salvation perhaps, they disagree. The ones who are like-beliefs join and meet together. OR there could be a distance/travel issue... so those living closer together agree to meet together without the others....

If you are not part of a group, you are missing the fellowship God has for you. At some point that group will create a name, if in theory only.
HE has given me a white stone with a new name...all outside of "church"...
 
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widows and orphans are the babes that start to keep themselves unspotted from the world though the Holy Spirit likes the literal meaning of that verse too.

having a real religious life would be nice but I don't know if I want it enough to torture myself over not having it.
 
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And then, there are also those, that have been nourished in the wilderness.
Amen.

John 6:35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
 
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Is this the path of the sepant?:

James 1:27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

Notice the words pure and undefiled religion. James is teaching us about simplicity, in my opinion.

So Christ did away with this?:

James 1:27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.


The physical vs the Spiritual translation... Physical is what is read is and self defined. Spiritual delves deeper. A consideration... Orphans & Widows of the Spirit . The afflictions are legion. Organized religion is one such cause. An orphan of the Spirit has no physical age or gender specifics as a requirement as those of the Spirit are all children in God.

Remember the parable where Jesus sits a child on his knee and says woe to those that lead this little one astray? Apply it in Spiritual child , where-in that is us on his knee and we are 50 years old (All are children in God). This concept is not physical as Jesus uses a "physical child" to explain Spiritual affliction in led astray.

Being led is the "World". Some translation terms of the world... Organized religion, mom, dad, preacher, friends, puppies, kittens, etc... These people and things we can love more than God that created them. Thus led, in a love we have always put firstly before God . We all are led as children (physical) yet a lot of people ignore the verses ( me too for 45 years) that say put up childish things. Another physical vs Spiritual translation. Things being physical, a season to revamp the mind to the very id and start over with God as first love. What is sincere ignorance? It took a lifetime to grasp a hold of that as it was His will. Sincere ignorance is led astray in love that is passed from generation to generation. Example: Mom and Dad teach organized religion to us for they were taught the same as they exalt the preacher on sermons etc and we do it too.

This produces sincere ignorance. It is not their fault as their parents did the same in a physical love... Human condition. Hope this edifies that God ... Firstly in all .
 
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Another form of symbolism of this is a boat ...

those old pics of sail ships having three masks/crosses make me smile for reason not yet fully known but known none the less ...

truth remains the same by an forever expanding ;)
 
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Another form of symbolism of this is a boat ...

we board a boat by steps to cross over a sea ... a means to an end

however ... Jesus did not need a boat nor was troubled by storm

why was it he slept ?
 
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we board a boat by steps to cross over a sea ... a means to an end

however ... Jesus did not need a boat nor was troubled by storm

why was it he slept ?

The whole scenario was a conceptual picture ...

The question could be, who was actually sleeping ...
 
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The whole scenario was a conceptual picture ...

The question could be, who was actually sleeping ...

well we know Jesus being Christ was awake/alive seeing to be carnal minded is death/asleep and yet he being flesh his body/flesh grew weary as other parts of this book show he also thirsted ....

in short ... he overcame his own flesh as a covering by giving it no thought other than its needs and even this it did not trouble him as a thing to be concerned ... such faith ... such love ... how whole in oneself ... how at one with GOD ...


how at odds it is we live in a world where his name and title are used in a sardonic way when we all seek out what he became in himself ...

like looking for that lost coin ...
 
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