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aparker2005

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Hello everyone. My girlfriend and I are having trouble and I don't know what else to do other than prayer. I figured I'd get some opinions here.

She and I dated for 3 years and broke up in 2007. She dated another guy, got engaged, ended up breaking it off with him after he cheated on her, and then 5 months later we talked and got back together.

Everything has been wonderful and we are truly in love and moving forward.

However...........one HUGE conflict has arrived. I have graduated college and just got a great job near our hometown. It will use my degree, provide lots of advancement, and great benefits. I like our hometown. Our church, family, friends, and everything we need is in reach. For shopping and fun days, an hour and a half is about the max we have to travel.

She, however, has a year of college left. As soon as she gets out, her plan is to move about an hour and a half way and work 30 minutes from there. I went to college in the city where she will be working and I did not care for living there much. Since I have a great career started, I'd love to get a house, become engaged, and raise our family here. It's a great area.

She does not want anything to do with living here, just because her reason is she doesn't want to live around our area and her dream is to work at this hospital in the city where she wants to work. She says when she graduates college, she'd like to be engaged and ready to move to her new location. She says I can easily get a new job where she will be, but I've lived there and it's not as easy as she's making it out to be.

I don't think it's wise, in this economy, to leave such a good paying job where I can provide easily for a family. It was hard enough to get this job after looking in many locations. She will be getting a medical degree, and there are MANY opportunities for her in our area. She knows this, but won't consider any of the options. I don't know how we are going to get around this since neither of us want to budge. Any advice? We both love each other and really want this to work, but she's telling me it's her or my job. Thanks!
 

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If she is not willing to follow your lead, she is not marriageable. A simple fact, but an extremely hard one. The fact that she is willing to rebel against you, who have an actual job, to pursue an imaginary "dream" job, is an independent but related red flag. And finally, ultimatums ("me or your job") have no basis in a Biblical relationship, period.

Simply put, she does not have a wife's attitude, and if it does not change, you should not marry her.
 
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She's either too immature or too set in her ways.

You have work and there are plenty of work opprotunities to look for where you are living. But for some reason she opposes moving there.

She's either too immature and believes that the marriage should be all about her and her dreams and every detail of them.

OR

She really has her heart dead set on living in the city and does not like where you are living.

I'm not saying that this relationship is doomed, but as things are, you can't marry her until you two get this settled. I don't advise an immediate breakup however, because reality may solve the problem for you. If for example she can't land her dream job in the city she may be more apt to want to go where you live.

However you can't marry until you have this settled.
 
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If she is not willing to follow your lead, she is not marriageable. A simple fact, but an extremely hard one. The fact that she is willing to rebel against you, who have an actual job, to pursue an imaginary "dream" job, is an independent but related red flag. And finally, ultimatums ("me or your job") have no basis in a Biblical relationship, period.

Simply put, she does not have a wife's attitude, and if it does not change, you should not marry her.

Stop talking. You seem to have a pretty big problem with this girl having a will of her own. What, do you think she should be in the kitchen baking him a pie? A girlfriend does not owe submission to a boyfriend. Paul's words apply only to marriage. Therefore, she is not rebellious. Additionally, I think it's ridiculous that you think someone should abandon a chosen career because her boyfriend has a job, particularly given that we know nothing of their ages or the status of their relationship on the whole. Moreover, the word ultimatum appears nowhere in the OP, and there's nothing to indicate that she's provided one. It's not clear to me why you think that others are morally accountable for stuff you make up about them.
 
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I'm sort of with Luther. Put this on the back burner; this isn't a decision that needs to be made right now. In a year, maybe your job prospects will be better. Maybe hers won't be. Maybe she'll decide she likes your town. Maybe one of you will commute. Calm down, quit fighting about it, and move on.
 
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This doesn't have to be decided right now, but this disagreement is a big red flag and should cause you to carefully evaluate if this a workable relationship. Wanting to be married when she graduates and wanting to move to this city and get a job; it sounds like she has a outline of how her life should go, but you are only a small part of her plan.
 
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If she is not willing to follow your lead, she is not marriageable. A simple fact, but an extremely hard one. The fact that she is willing to rebel against you, who have an actual job, to pursue an imaginary "dream" job, is an independent but related red flag. And finally, ultimatums ("me or your job") have no basis in a Biblical relationship, period.

Simply put, she does not have a wife's attitude, and if it does not change, you should not marry her.

Yeah, gosh. Those jobs that your girlfriend might get with her medical degree (mentioned in the OP), certainly an "imaginary 'dream' job." Not comparable to "an actual job," like citizenthom so astutely points out.

Gag. My advice is to choose your advice-givers wisely. People spouting rhetoric about wifely submission would not, in my opinion, constitute a wise choice.

Now pardon me while I go bemoan the state of feminism, which has not convinced some people that women aren't supposed to be submissive, fawning nitwits for their patriarchs.
 
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People spouting rhetoric about wifely submission would not, in my opinion, constitute a wise choice.

That's fine for you, who are not a believer; but a wife's submission to her husband is an integral Christian belief.

BTW, I'm not sure where you or the other flamer are getting the idea that this is one way. If a boyfriend told his girlfriend she had to choose between following him off on an illusory dream quest or staying at an existing, stable job, I would tell her something similar: ultimatums have no place in relationships or marriage, and abandoning her certain job situation without either a reasonably certain alternative or a ring is foolish and shows poor leadership.
 
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A girlfriend does not owe submission to a boyfriend. Paul's words apply only to marriage.

You are correct; but she apparently said "your job or me" looking forward to a future engagement/marriage. That attitude would have to change before a marriage would be even remotely wise. And frankly it's not an attitude that changes easily or often these days.
 
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she apparently said "your job or me"

That's a reading that's unsupported by the text. Let me refer you to my previous post, in which I remarked that I don't understand why you think people should be held morally accountable for things you make up about them.
 
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Break up is coming. I can't take stuff like this on a regular basis:

Barely wanting to kiss. She even sometimes refuses kisses. I asked her about it, because before in our relationship we kissed/made out all the time. She says now, it's just not her thing anymore and likes the simplicity of only small pecks. This drives me crazy. I don't want to make out 24/7 either, but I want to do more than "peck" my girlfriend. And when you move away when I try to kiss you sometimes, that [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]es me off.

She's also ALWAYS tired. She's 22. She works and goes to school. I understand being tired and everything, but every single time we hang out, she leaves by 9:30 or 10 every time. She didn't have to work last night and she made me leave at 9. Every other couple our age stays out till 1 or 2 and they work and go to school as well. But she's ready for me to leave, or ready for me to take her home by 9 or 10 every time. I want to spend more time with her than 3 or 4 hours every weekend.

She never wants to do much together, mostly because she wants to do things "her" way. I finally talked to her about everything tonight and she said well you make it seem like I'm boring. I said well, for the most part, our relationship is when you never want to do anything together.

Her smart remarks constantly.

We got off the phone and she sent me a message just now saying she's sorry she's a disappointment and a horrible girlfriend, but she truly loves me and she'd talk to me in the morning. I haven't texted her back and don't think I'm going to.

I just can't take THIS kind of relationship anymore.
 
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Break up is coming. I can't take stuff like this on a regular basis:

Barely wanting to kiss. She even sometimes refuses kisses. I asked her about it, because before in our relationship we kissed/made out all the time. She says now, it's just not her thing anymore and likes the simplicity of only small pecks. This drives me crazy. I don't want to make out 24/7 either, but I want to do more than "peck" my girlfriend. And when you move away when I try to kiss you sometimes, that [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]es me off.

She's also ALWAYS tired. She's 22. She works and goes to school. I understand being tired and everything, but every single time we hang out, she leaves by 9:30 or 10 every time. She didn't have to work last night and she made me leave at 9. Every other couple our age stays out till 1 or 2 and they work and go to school as well. But she's ready for me to leave, or ready for me to take her home by 9 or 10 every time. I want to spend more time with her than 3 or 4 hours every weekend.

She never wants to do much together, mostly because she wants to do things "her" way. I finally talked to her about everything tonight and she said well you make it seem like I'm boring. I said well, for the most part, our relationship is when you never want to do anything together.

Her smart remarks constantly.

We got off the phone and she sent me a message just now saying she's sorry she's a disappointment and a horrible girlfriend, but she truly loves me and she'd talk to me in the morning. I haven't texted her back and don't think I'm going to.

I just can't take THIS kind of relationship anymore.

Yeah, this doesn't sound like a good situation. Sorry dude.
 
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