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< I can show you a lot of versus that show how salvation is attained and they are not with living in justified sins that are some how Covered by grace.
You keep saying that you "can show" me a lot of verses, but you never do!!

<FaiTh produces righteousness and the defined word righteous doesn't mean living in justified sin!
First, please cite any verse that says that faith produces righteousness. Believers are declared righteous.

That's a contradiction to the word righteous! Righteousness Def kjv righteousness RIGHTEOUSNESS, n. ri'chusness. 1. Purity of heart and rectitude of life; conformity of heart and life to the divine law. Righteousness, as used in Scripture and theology, in which it is chiefly used, is nearly equivalent to holiness, comprehending holy principles and affections of heart, and conformity of life to the divine law. It includes all we call justice, honesty and virtue, with holy affections; in short, it is true religion. 2. Applied to God, the perfection or holiness of his nature; exact rectitude; faithfulness. 3. The active and passive obedience of Christ, by which the law of God is fulfilled. Daniel 9. 4. Justice; equity between man and man. Luke 1. 5. The cause of our justification.
To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins Luke&#8236; [bless and do not curse]1&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]77&#8236; KJV
I didn't find ANY sense of a "contradiction" in any of this paragraph. So, what did you mean by your first sentence?

And I gave you versus that explains you can't loose something that is only attained when your raised up.
Uh, no, you have only SAID that you can give me a lot of verses. But you haven't so far.

Your question is loaded I don't think intentionally by you but learned in church.
I learned it as well but it fallows a OSAS theology that would make the bible contradict itself if it were true!
I'm not following your line here. Please explain.

The theory is flawed brother
Nice opinion, but unless you can provide some evidence for your opinion, why should I accept it? Anyone can lob charges at another. But it's all together a different thing when one can actually back up what one believes. I have not seen any evidence to support any of your claims.

Salvation takes away righteousness or accountability of ones requirement to obtain righteousness!
This sentence makes no sense whatsoever. Those who believe are saved and declared righteous.

1. It doesn't say that anywhere
2. If it did their would be a major contradiction in the word.
3. Salvation OSAS takes away the law
Gal 5:18 would contradict that and jesus direct words about the law!
And again against Romans 6:23
4. No accountability takes away the fear of God?
This is what keeps you running he race with endurance.
I have no idea what your point is, or trying to make.

OSAS doesn't mix well with these Verse.
Which verse?
 
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Balanced it out OSAS it doesn't balance out with the rest of the BIBLE again no contradictions are found in the word!
The problem is that you haven't yet demonstrated any contradiction that OSAS has with any part of the Bible. You've kept repeating that idea, but no evidence to back it up.

I still have no idea WHY you think OSAS contradicts the Bible. Please explain yourself.
 
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The blood of Jesus covers my past repented sins God was gracious" to give us Jesus's his son And make him the atonement for those sins
How sad. If He only covered your past repented sins, then who covers all the sins future to those? Do you? If so, how so?

This is all Sunday school information I'm giving you btw super simple stuff.
Actually, quite erroneous stuff, imho.

you said this:
"I do read a lot actually but I'm ABSOLUTELY not being lead by a Calvinism theology that believes in predestination!!"

Then I said this:
" Well, at least we agree on something! I'm neither Calvinist nor Arminian. I believe In the direct and clear words of GOD Then please give them proper acknowledgement. God's gift of eternal life, which is salvation, is irrevocable. Do you believe that? These are clear and direct words from God."

I asked you a question. The clear and direct words from God are that eternal life is a gift of God and God's gifts are irrevocable.

DO YOU BELIEVE THESE CLEAR AND DIRECT WORDS FROM GOD?

Or not?
 
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I responded to every thing you've said I gave versus over and over just they arnt what you want because it would be a contradiction!
Actually quite untrue! On page 29, post #289 you posted, "I can show you a lot of verses…" and on page 30, post #298 you said the exact same thing, yet you never did after either post.

And you've never explained HOW OSAS contradicts anything in the Bible. Again, your opinion doesn't count. What counts is what the Bible says, not what your opinion is.

You can't prove your can't loose salvation verse just the same cuz AGAIN it's not what you've made it into!
I don't have to prove anything. I've given clear and direct verses that STATE that God's gift of eternal life is irrevocable. If my understanding of these very clear and direct verses is in error, please explain HOW they are.

For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof
Romans&#8236; [bless and do not curse]13&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]9-14&#8236; KJV

READ THE EXAMPLES see if you can find the one that doesn't belong?

salvation is near
You are saved
I've seen salvation
I wait for salvation
We shall see the salvation ofGod
I will place salvation inZion
God is my salvation
Even the salvation of your soul
Confession is made unto righteousness

Look closely which one DOESNT BELONG
It is quite difficult to follow your posts. Please do the favor of just clearly explaining yourself. I have no idea what your point is. You've quoted Rom 13:9-14 and then ask what "example" doesn't belong. That doesn't make any sense. Doesn't belong to WHAT? Please clarify.

The one you had to have thought was the doesn't belong here was actually in the bible
But means EXACTLY what he doesn't want you to do with it.
None of this makes any sense at all. Please re-read and clarify.

By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain
1 Corinthians&#8236; [bless and do not curse]15&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]2&#8236; KJV
What is your understanding of this verse? The key is the Greek word for "in vain".
 
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Salvation isn't assumed it's the reward for holding fast to his commandments obeying being faithful and righteous
Incorrect! Salvation cannot be a reward. Rewards are earned. Salvation is by grace, meaning it CANNOT be earned.
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
Incorrect! Salvation cannot be a reward. Rewards are earned. Salvation is by grace, meaning it CANNOT be earned.

Salvation is when your in heaven according to the bible!!
It's the rapture! So mmm I dint know what you mean
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
Actually quite untrue! On page 29, post #289 you posted, "I can show you a lot of verses&#133;" and on page 30, post #298 you said the exact same thing, yet you never did after either post. And you've never explained HOW OSAS contradicts anything in the Bible. Again, your opinion doesn't count. What counts is what the Bible says, not what your opinion is. I don't have to prove anything. I've given clear and direct verses that STATE that God's gift of eternal life is irrevocable. If my understanding of these very clear and direct verses is in error, please explain HOW they are. It is quite difficult to follow your posts. Please do the favor of just clearly explaining yourself. I have no idea what your point is. You've quoted Rom 13:9-14 and then ask what "example" doesn't belong. That doesn't make any sense. Doesn't belong to WHAT? Please clarify. None of this makes any sense at all. Please re-read and clarify. What is your understanding of this verse? The key is the Greek word for "in vain".



I don't have to prove anything. I've given clear and direct verses that STATE that God's gift of eternal life is irrevocable. If my understanding of these very clear and direct verses is in error, please explain HOW they are.


I don't recall you posting any versus
About salvation. I'd like to see them to understand the context .

Now my concern is only if they are then true then the other 99% of the bible that says contrary would be a direct contradiction. I'll give you an example below two versus. But first to be clear what my point is so we aren't saying the same thing?
Salvation is only after righteousness through faith thats not with any current or future sin that you stated is covers. This would be the Contradiction

And why would it be if you asked?

Because you would then have to re define the Word righteousness! you can not make an unrighteous choice as a righteous man with out revision of sin same with salvation.
Versus below to prove point.

And we can't go against the word of God!
But we can try and balance out the word to be sure the meaning is clear.

To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins
Luke&#8236; [bless and do not curse]1&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]77&#8236; KJV
(Salvation "after" remission of sin)

Gods word is clear here as well

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God
Romans&#8236; [bless and do not curse]3&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]25&#8236; KJV

PAST sins ONLY not current If you missed it
past would imply behind you not current and then go with Luke 1:17 remission of sin brings your salvation.
Repented sin.

Does this mean I think we can be perfect ?
No not with out CHRIST After we repent.
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
Actually quite untrue! On page 29, post #289 you posted, "I can show you a lot of verses&#133;" and on page 30, post #298 you said the exact same thing, yet you never did after either post. And you've never explained HOW OSAS contradicts anything in the Bible. Again, your opinion doesn't count. What counts is what the Bible says, not what your opinion is. I don't have to prove anything. I've given clear and direct verses that STATE that God's gift of eternal life is irrevocable. If my understanding of these very clear and direct verses is in error, please explain HOW they are. It is quite difficult to follow your posts. Please do the favor of just clearly explaining yourself. I have no idea what your point is. You've quoted Rom 13:9-14 and then ask what "example" doesn't belong. That doesn't make any sense. Doesn't belong to WHAT? Please clarify. None of this makes any sense at all. Please re-read and clarify. What is your understanding of this verse? The key is the Greek word for "in vain".




Actually quite untrue! On page 29, post #289 you posted, "I can show you a lot of verses&#133;" and on page 30, post #298 you said the exact same thing, yet you never did after either post.
!!??? Unclear what you mean

And you've never explained HOW OSAS contradicts anything in the Bible. Again, your opinion doesn't count. What counts is what the Bible says, not what your opinion is.

OSAS believed future and current sin is covered

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God
Romans&#8236; [bless and do not curse]3&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]25&#8236; KJV

The contradiction is you can loose your salvation by walking out of his hand
We have always had free will but no one can snatch us
He will continue a good work in Us
Yea he wants us all to go to heaven
Does that verse give you a sin free pass ??
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
Actually quite untrue! On page 29, post #289 you posted, "I can show you a lot of verses&#133;" and on page 30, post #298 you said the exact same thing, yet you never did after either post. And you've never explained HOW OSAS contradicts anything in the Bible. Again, your opinion doesn't count. What counts is what the Bible says, not what your opinion is. I don't have to prove anything. I've given clear and direct verses that STATE that God's gift of eternal life is irrevocable. If my understanding of these very clear and direct verses is in error, please explain HOW they are. It is quite difficult to follow your posts. Please do the favor of just clearly explaining yourself. I have no idea what your point is. You've quoted Rom 13:9-14 and then ask what "example" doesn't belong. That doesn't make any sense. Doesn't belong to WHAT? Please clarify. None of this makes any sense at all. Please re-read and clarify. What is your understanding of this verse? The key is the Greek word for "in vain".




It is quite difficult to follow your posts. Please do the favor of just clearly explaining yourself. I have no idea what your point is. You've quoted Rom 13:9-14 and then ask what "example" doesn't belong. That doesn't make any sense. Doesn't belong to WHAT? Please clarify.

I'm sorry I assume you get what I'm saying
:/
The verse explained a clear picture of the word salvation
The example below is a chunk of small sentences using the word salvation and the one you hold on to or OSAS uses "your saved "

This only verse in the NT says don't believe in vain nothing else is said /: you gotta keep and obey what jesus teaches! Is that works not at all righteousness produced works !

By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1 Corinthians&#8236; [bless and do not curse]15&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]2&#8236; KJV
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
How sad. If He only covered your past repented sins, then who covers all the sins future to those? Do you? If so, how so? Actually, quite erroneous stuff, imho. you said this: "I do read a lot actually but I'm ABSOLUTELY not being lead by a Calvinism theology that believes in predestination!!" Then I said this: " Well, at least we agree on something! I'm neither Calvinist nor Arminian. I believe In the direct and clear words of GOD Then please give them proper acknowledgement. God's gift of eternal life, which is salvation, is irrevocable. Do you believe that? These are clear and direct words from God." I asked you a question. The clear and direct words from God are that eternal life is a gift of God and God's gifts are irrevocable. DO YOU BELIEVE THESE CLEAR AND DIRECT WORDS FROM GOD? Or not?



How sad. If He only covered your past repented sins, then who covers all the sins future to those? Do you? If so, how so?


It's not sad for me it's in the bible clearly past sins
Or repented sin or remission of sin.

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God
Romans&#8236; [bless and do not curse]3&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]25&#8236; KJV
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
How sad. If He only covered your past repented sins, then who covers all the sins future to those? Do you? If so, how so? Actually, quite erroneous stuff, imho. you said this: "I do read a lot actually but I'm ABSOLUTELY not being lead by a Calvinism theology that believes in predestination!!" Then I said this: " Well, at least we agree on something! I'm neither Calvinist nor Arminian. I believe In the direct and clear words of GOD Then please give them proper acknowledgement. God's gift of eternal life, which is salvation, is irrevocable. Do you believe that? These are clear and direct words from God." I asked you a question. The clear and direct words from God are that eternal life is a gift of God and God's gifts are irrevocable. DO YOU BELIEVE THESE CLEAR AND DIRECT WORDS FROM GOD? Or not?


" Well, at least we agree on something! I'm neither Calvinist nor Arminian. I believe In the direct and clear words of GOD Then please give them proper acknowledgement. God's gift of eternal life, which is salvation, is irrevocable. Do you believe that? These are clear and direct words from God."

I asked you a question. The clear and direct words from God are that eternal life is a gift of God and God's gifts are irrevocable.

DO YOU BELIEVE THESE CLEAR AND DIRECT WORDS FROM GOD?

Show the versus to me so I can read the context?
I'm happy to look at them

OSAS btw is based off Calvinism theory of
Predestination thud is one who can not loose ones salvation same thing different name
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
The problem is that you haven't yet demonstrated any contradiction that OSAS has with any part of the Bible. You've kept repeating that idea, but no evidence to back it up. I still have no idea WHY you think OSAS contradicts the Bible. Please explain yourself.


Maybe I'm not good at communicating or maybe you hear but don't understand :/ either way it seems your just playing with me now !
I'm sorry if you were truly of good intent you wouldn't be so against the thought of my idea of loosing the salvation you seem to think you can't loose?
Why your threatened is between you and who ever.
I speak clearly and the versus I use are clear and directly contradicting your theology but you keep pretending I'm not posting them :/???
I don't know what else to say except I can't debate with some one who wont or can't receive my reply
 
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I think there might be a problem here not understanding that salvation is the same as having eternal life. As John said, the things written were for those of us who are believers to know that we have eternal life. Jesus said that we who come to him and believe have everlasting life and will not perish. Of course this is for those who endure to the end. It does matter what such do. Those who are the true believers don't go on with just sinning, those doing that as if it doesn't matter are never really among the saved, that life shows there is not real faith that is living in the believer. With real faith, that is in repentance to sin in one's life, one comes to Christ to be made clean from sin, and grows in overcoming sin with the righteousness from Jesus Christ and the leading from God's Spirit.
 
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I said this:
"Salvation cannot be a reward. Rewards are earned. Salvation is by grace, meaning it CANNOT be earned."
Is that according to you or the bible ?
According to the Bible. Here is a very clear and direct verse that SAYS so:

Eph 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God

Those who understand what grace means knows that the phrase "by grace" removes ANY idea of being earned.

Consider also:

Rom 4:4,5 - Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness

Now, if either of these passages don't support what I said about salvation, please exegete these verses to show me where my error is.

Cuz I think the bibles correct
Apparently not. Because you've indicated that salvation is a reward. Without any verse to back that up.

btw, the Bible is correct. But your views aren't because they aren't taught in the Bible.
 
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Salvation is when your in heaven according to the bible!!
Are you saying that no one is saved UNTIL they are in heaven? Where is that taught in the Bible?

This is what Jesus said:

Johnb 5:24 - “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

The phrase "HAS eternal life" refutes your claim. The believer HAS eternal life, which is salvation.

It's the rapture!
What is the rapture? This statement doesn't fit with your previous statement. You're not being clear.

So mmm I dint know what you mean
And I don't know what you mean.
 
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I said this:
I've given clear and direct verses that STATE that God's gift of eternal life is irrevocable. If my understanding of these very clear and direct verses is in error, please explain HOW they are.
I don't recall you posting any versus
About salvation. I'd like to see them to understand the context .
Rom 6:23 and Rom 11:29. Eternal life is a gift of God and God's gifts are irrevocable. I've cited them before.

Now my concern is only if they are then true then the other 99% of the bible that says contrary would be a direct contradiction. I'll give you an example below two versus.
Finally, huh.

But first to be clear what my point is so we aren't saying the same thing?
To be clear, we sure aren't saying the same thing. Not even close.

Salvation is only after righteousness through faith thats not with any current or future sin that you stated is covers. This would be the Contradiction
So, where is the verse about these so-called uncovered future sins?

Because you would then have to re define the Word righteousness! you can not make an unrighteous choice as a righteous man with out revision of sin same with salvation.
I don't suppose that you know just how confused this sounds.

Versus below to prove point.

And we can't go against the word of God!
Sin surely IS against the Word of God. So your claim is false.

To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins
Luke&#8236; [bless and do not curse]1&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]77&#8236; KJV
(Salvation "after" remission of sin)
What, exactly, does this verse prove? How does it support your claims?

Gods word is clear here as well
So far, your posts haven't been.

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God
Romans&#8236; [bless and do not curse]3&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]25&#8236; KJV
What does this verse say to you?

PAST sins ONLY not current If you missed it
I did miss it. By a mile. What verse speaks only of past sins?

past would imply behind you not current and then go with Luke 1:17 remission of sin brings your salvation.
Repented sin.
Here is the verse: “It is he who will go as a forerunner before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers back to the children, and the disobedient to the attitude of the righteous, so as to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

I see NOTHING here about "past sins".

Does this mean I think we can be perfect ?
No not with out CHRIST After we repent.
So it seems your view is that with Christ you do become perfect. Yet Paul was clear about our sin nature. Rom 6 and 7 are quite clear.
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
I said this: I've given clear and direct verses that STATE that God's gift of eternal life is irrevocable. If my understanding of these very clear and direct verses is in error, please explain HOW they are. Rom 6:23 and Rom 11:29. Eternal life is a gift of God and God's gifts are irrevocable. I've cited them before. Finally, huh. To be clear, we sure aren't saying the same thing. Not even close. So, where is the verse about these so-called uncovered future sins? I don't suppose that you know just how confused this sounds. Sin surely IS against the Word of God. So your claim is false. What, exactly, does this verse prove? How does it support your claims? So far, your posts haven't been. What does this verse say to you? I did miss it. By a mile. What verse speaks only of past sins? Here is the verse: &#147;It is he who will go as a forerunner before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers back to the children, and the disobedient to the attitude of the righteous, so as to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.&#148; I see NOTHING here about "past sins". So it seems your view is that with Christ you do become perfect. Yet Paul was clear about our sin nature. Rom 6 and 7 are quite clear.



I've responded to you but like said already one way conversations are just talking to no one.
So your either kinda slow or a kid that can't read a full sentences with out misinterpreting them.
So go on and live in your justified hidden sin
And pray that "salvation /OSAS will pull through your easy road to heaven.
 
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Actually quite untrue! On page 29, post #289 you posted, "I can show you a lot of verses…" and on page 30, post #298 you said the exact same thing, yet you never did after either post.
!!??? Unclear what you mean
Somehow your posts are messed up. I said what shows as your comments, which you respond with being unclear what I mean.

What I said is clear: I cited exact post #'s where you SAID that you can "show a lot of verse", but then never did show those "lot of verses". How is that not clear enough? I can't make it any more clear. You've SAID you can show verses, but then you don't do it.

OSAS believed future and current sin is covered
Where do you get the idea that sins future to our faith in Christ isn't covered?

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God
Romans&#8236; [bless and do not curse]3&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]25&#8236; KJV
Clearly, a better translation would help in understanding.

The NASB says this: whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

And let's consider the very next verse, for context:

v.26 - for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

This is clear: those who believe (have fiath in Jesus) ARE justified. Period.

How do you understand Heb 9:12 - and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

By His sacrifice on the cross, He obtained eternal redemption (that's salvation) ONCE FOR ALL. The Greek word indicates for all time.

Rom 6:10 - For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.

Heb 7:27 - who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.

Heb 10:10 - By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

The phrase "for all" refers to all sin. He died once for all sin. Hebrews 10 makes clear His one time sacrifice being sufficient for all sin for all time, unlike that of the yearly animal sacrifices done in the OT by priests. That chapter cleary contrasts the one time sacrifice of Christ with the yearly sacrifices done by priests in the OT.

The contradiction is you can loose your salvation by walking out of his hand
The ERROR is in your own statement. Walking away from God does NOT result in loss of salvation. That is incorrect. I've provided verses that guarantee that we cannot lose eternal life, or the love of Christ.

We have always had free will but no one can snatch us
So what? Once a child, always a child. No one has proven otherwise.

[QUTOE]He will continue a good work in Us
Yea he wants us all to go to heaven
Does that verse give you a sin free pass ??[/QUOTE]
<sigh> Everyone has a free pass to sin. That's not the issue. Believers continue to sin. We all do. The one who claims he has no sin is a LIAR, according to the apostle John. 1 Jn 1
 
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I'm sorry I assume you get what I'm saying
When I don't understand, I say so. Most of your posts are confusing, and, imho, confused.

This only verse in the NT says don't believe in vain nothing else is said
The Greek word for "in vain" is actually "without purpose". That means that it is important to consider what we are believing in Christ FOR. The purpose FOR believing in Christ is to be saved. If one is believing in Christ for a new car, better job, bigger house, etc, etc, etc, that is NOT saving faith and they aren't saved. Does this make sense?

you gotta keep and obey what jesus teaches! Is that works not at all righteousness produced works !
To be saved, one must in Jesus Christ FOR eternal life. To be a disciple, we must obey what all He commands. Those 2 are different subjects, which it seems you've conflated.

By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1 Corinthians&#8236; [bless and do not curse]15&#8236;:[bless and do not curse]2&#8236; KJV
Again, the KJV falls on its head here. The Greek word for "keep in memory" simply means to possess.

iow, if one possesses the gospel (believing that Christ died for you and gives eternal life to believers), then you ARE saved. It is that simple.
 
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