Reformed/Calvinist ONLY!

[Lady Bug]

If someone is consistently applying covenant theology to all of scripture than one would realize there is no future piece of land set aside for a physical Israel. Jesus is the True Israel. We are grafted into Him (Gal. 3 the seed is Christ) and have all the heavenly benefits now, and future benefits to come. This doesn't exclude the incoming of converts from ethnic Israel in the future it only points out that we are 'heirs according to the promise' if we are in Christ, the True Israel of God.

Yours in the Lord,

jm

I'm aware of that passage in Galatians and that causes me to lean toward Covenant Theology. The only unresolved issue I have is, if the modern-day state of Israel is not the Israel of the Bible (and I understand why people say it's not), then where in the Bible does it indicate that a counterfeit state of Israel will be set up? I don't think it does. If it doesn't state anything about it, how are we supposed to know whether or not the modern-day state of Israel is ordained by God?

I do agree that there are going to be converts from ethnic Israel alone that will be heirs to the promise. I don't give any preferential treatment to ethnic Jews/ethnic Israel over spiritual Jews/spiritual Israel. We believers, no matter the ethnicity, are all heirs to that promise now.

 

[twin1954]

I'm aware of that passage in Galatians and that causes me to lean toward Covenant Theology. The only unresolved issue I have is, if the modern-day state of Israel is not the Israel of the Bible (and I understand why people say it's not), then where in the Bible does it indicate that a counterfeit state of Israel will be set up? I don't think it does. If it doesn't state anything about it, how are we supposed to know whether or not the modern-day state of Israel is ordained by God?

I do agree that there are going to be converts from ethnic Israel alone that will be heirs to the promise. I don't give any preferential treatment to ethnic Jews/ethnic Israel over spiritual Jews/spiritual Israel. We believers, no matter the ethnicity, are all heirs to that promise now.

God is not concerned with physical things except as they glorify Christ and are for the good of His people, spiritual Israel. Just as there is no temple, sacrifices, priesthood, among other things, the physical nation is nothing. Now they are just another false religion. They have served their purpose in bringing Christ into the world.

Show me a Jew who actually offers sacrifices as commanded or even knows what tribe he comes from. They are a physical nation like any other. The U.S. Isn't actually stated in the Scriptures either.

 

[DeaconDean]

What is a Covenant Theologist supposed to believe about the modern state of Israel? I've seen these claims of how it's not supposed to exist, that it's a Zionist creation, but is there anywhere in the Bible that talks about a counterfeit state of Israel being created? I don't think so. Mind you I am not done reading the OT by a longshot.

Can a Covenant Theologian believe that the modern state of Israel is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy yet maintain that believers in Christ alone are heirs to the "promise"? Is the promise that land anymore, or is it supplanted by "eternal life" of the New Covenant?

disclaimer lol: I didn't read the rest of the comments before I made this one, so I might have missed something.

To me, what I've highlighted, sounds like pure Dispensationalism rather than Covenant Theology.

God Bless

Till all are one.