Recovery from the occult forum - an explanation

BelindaP said:

Right now there are three recovering members. However, I know of a few more who would like access.

The forum doesn't violate the five principles. Yes, there are going to be posts that challenge God, but they will not go unanswered.

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Is it not against Christ to have members still associating with the occult 'minister' Christ to others seeking to escape it? How do you come to this conclusion seeing light has no fellowship with darkness and remain consistant with biblical doctrine? This is certainly against Christ not just imho, but according to the word.

Freitag said:

In all honesty this experience has been like hit by a bus, not just hit by the bus, but having it run me over several times

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Youll be ok, Jesus loves you and so do I and a lot of people here.

Stay strong, theres people here to hold your hand.

~Blessed Be.

Time2BCounted said:

Is it not against Christ to have members still associating with the occult 'minister' Christ to others seeking to escape it? How do you come to this conclusion seeing light has no fellowship with darkness and remain consistant with biblical doctrine? This is certainly against Christ not just imho, but according to the word.

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But people seeking Christ..we should show them the way so he can bless him as he has blessed us? He forgives, why cant we?

~Blessed Be

3girls2dogs said:

I beg to differ on this, Belinda.

Section 1.4 of the first principle reads as such:

1.4 No forum (with the exception of the teen forums) will restrict entry or participation based upon a member's religious beliefs or lack thereof. Members are expected to obey all of a forum’s rules while posting there.

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People are not being restricted based upon their religious beliefs or lack thereof. There are other criteria.

Time2BCounted said:

Is it not against Christ to have members still associating with the occult 'minister' Christ to others seeking to escape it? How do you come to this conclusion seeing light has no fellowship with darkness and remain consistant with biblical doctrine? This is certainly against Christ not just imho, but according to the word.

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People who will be actively ministering have no affiliations with the occult. While many of the victims of the occult will minister to one another, that will be the sorts of ministry that anyone can participate in--love, caring, empathy. As far as I know, there are no members actively involved in the occult who are members of the forum.

Vampire Hunter D is pretty cool and all, but I'm not sure it promotes, y'know, standard issue christian stuff.

Just sayin'.

BelindaP said:

People are not being restricted based upon their religious beliefs or lack thereof. There are other criteria.



People who will be actively ministering have no affiliations with the occult. While many of the victims of the occult will minister to one another, that will be the sorts of ministry that anyone can participate in--love, caring, empathy. As far as I know, there are no members actively involved in the occult who are members of the forum.

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Correct me if i am wrong, but Indrid Cold has listed his qualifications to minister, and his icon says he is a christian 'mystic'. I am still waiting for clarification as to what this is. So are you now saying indrid will not be a part of that forum or will not be ministering there? Also it was stated that moriah will be ministering under supervision... if moriah doesnt even desire deliverance as she has clearly stated, will you tell me exactly what it is she will be administering when she 'ministers' under supervision?

In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

Glory to Thee, our God, glory to Thee!

O Heavenly King, the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, Who art everywhere and fillest all things; Treasury of Blessings, and Giver of Life - come and abide in us, and cleanse us from every impurity, and save our souls, O Good One.

Holy God! Holy Mighty! Holy Immortal! Have mercy on us. (3x)

Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen.

O most Holy Trinity, have mercy on us. O Lord, cleanse us from our sins. O Master, pardon our transgressions. O Holy One, visit and heal our infirmities, for Thy name's sake.

Lord, have mercy. (3x)

Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen.

Our Father, Who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy Kingdom come; Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Lord, have mercy. (12x)

Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, now and ever and unto ages of ages. Amen.
Come! Let us worship God, our King!
Come! Let us worship and fall down before Christ, our King and our God!
Come! Let us worship and fall down before Christ Himself, our King and our God!

A PSALM OF REPENTANCE (Psalm 51)
Have mercy on me, O God, according to Thy steadfast love; according to Thy abundant mercy, blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity and cleanse me from my sin!
For I know my transgressions and my sin is ever before me.
Against Thee, Thee only, have I sinned, and done that which is evil in Thy sight, so that Thou art justified in Thy sentence and blameless in Thy judgment.
Behold! I was brought forth in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Behold! Thou desirest truth in the inward being; therefore teach me wisdom in my secret heart.
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.
Fill me with joy and gladness; let the bones which Thou hast broken rejoice.
Hide Thy face from my sins and blot out all my iniquities.
Create in me a clean heart, O God, and put a new and right spirit within me.
Cast me not away from Thy presence and take not Thy Holy Spirit from me.
Restore to me the joy of Thy salvation and uphold me with a willing Spirit.
Then I will teach transgressors Thy ways and sinners will return to Thee.
Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, Thou God of my salvation, and my tongue will sing aloud of Thy deliverance.
O Lord, open Thou my lips, and my mouth shall show forth Thy praise.
For Thou hast no delight in sacrifice; were I to give a burnt offering, Thou wouldst not be pleased.
The sacrifice acceptable to God is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, Thou wilt not despise.
Do good to Zion in Thy good pleasure; rebuild the walls of Jerusalem.
Then wilt Thou delight in right sacrifices, in burnt offerings and whole burnt offerings; then bulls will be offered on Thy altar.

Freitag said:

In all honesty this experience has been like hit by a bus, not just hit by the bus, but having it run me over several times

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Am sorry for that, Frei. I truly don't think that was anyone's intention. For the most part, people just want to understand

Time2BCounted said:

Correct me if i am wrong, but Indrid Cold has listed his qualifications to minister, and his icon says he is a christian 'mystic'. I am still waiting for clarification as to what this is. So are you now saying indrid will not be a part of that forum or will not be ministering there? Also it was stated that moriah will be ministering under supervision... if moriah doesnt even desire deliverance as she has clearly stated, will you tell me exactly what it is she will be administering when she 'ministers' under supervision?

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Meister Eckhardt would probably be a good starting point.

You might be pleasantly surprised... that we haven't throw stones at you or each other for the most part.

Welcome back... and please... will you stop with the I am Sat-n thingie. LOL HUGS It's not necessary. HUGS

GreenMunchkin said:

Am sorry for that, Frei. I truly don't think that was anyone's intention. For the most part, people just want to understand

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In the grand scheme of things, this was pretty minor, it had the impact of being the straw that broke the camels back

CaDan said:

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Okay, now THAT made me smile.
(the levity is appreciated)




Thanks to those who gave me the clarification I asked for. I'm reading this thread and trying to discern how best I can offer my support and friendship.

Time2BCounted said:

Is it not against Christ to have members still associating with the occult 'minister' Christ to others seeking to escape it? How do you come to this conclusion seeing light has no fellowship with darkness and remain consistant with biblical doctrine? This is certainly against Christ not just imho, but according to the word.

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I'm still having relations to the occult. I cant even describe how easy it would be to embrace the dark

However God is truly God, were He not, I would have let go. I left witchcraft behind me, however it still trys on a regular basis to force itself into my life

Freitag said:

In the grand scheme of things, this was pretty minor, it had the impact of being the straw that broke the camels back

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Naw, sweetie, you abide in Christ. There isn't enough straw in the world to break THAT back

I'm sorry to those that have been hurt by this.

GreenMunchkin said:

Naw, sweetie, you abide in Christ. There isn't enough straw in the world to break THAT back

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Amen. When we can't walk, Jesus picks us up and carries us. HUGS

Boo !

I am SunMessenger what is the point of this post ?

What good does it do to continue in this thread. This has gone over the line.

D'Ann said:

Amen. When we can't walk, Jesus picks us up and carries us. HUGS

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Totally agreeing with this.

According to Erwin, he and the Pastoral team are talking through some details right now. With this in mind, let's do two things:

1) Be patient. Allow them to do their jobs and come back with an idea. Right now, it's mostly speculation since we don't know what exactly they will come up with.

2) Pray. Pray for Erwin, the Pastoral team, the Recovery team, and all who are involved with the formation of this forum. Pray for wisdom and guidance as to how best we can serve individuals exiting the occult. Pray that we as a site won't take on more than we can handle, but also that we won't turn down an opportunity to make a difference.