Is there any reason to believe in Christian God? I mean, a positive constructive reason. Not something like "What you gonna lose?"
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Is there any reason to believe in Christian God? I mean, a positive constructive reason. Not something like "What you gonna lose?"
I see. You wanted something from God, i.e. to gain life with Him. So, if I don't want anything from God (to blame Him or to thank Him) I do not need to seek Him, right? I mean I'm agnostic. For me existence of God is something of no importance, or it used to be this way for some time. I was not always agnostic. I was in constant movement between non-religion based belief and atheism. I finally found peace when I decided to leave the God question out of my life. But sometimes that peace is disturbed for one or another reason. So now I'm asking questions again. And I really can't find any reason to want something from God.
Yeah, you seemed to leave out what the exact judgment of those who aren't "believers". As I recall, it's a lake of blood and fire. Pretty stark contrast to the notion of God "respecting" our choices.
So basically God just tortures people by making them realize that if they're not in bliss they will eventually suffer the physical agony that "mirrors" the psychological agony they feel at the eventual physical agony they will suffer? That is the essence of torture, inflicting pain with no good reason beyond wanting somone to suffer either psychological or physical pain and also watching the person suffer at the possibility of future pain of either form.
I have more questions now, if you don't mind.
If such place(heaven) exists and we can be there, why aren't we already there? If we are children of God, doesn't He want the best for us?
Also, you said that the people rejecting God will not go to heaven. I think I do not reject God, at least while I'm in agnostic mood. Isn't it possible to change my opinion later? What if I decide to believe in Christian God and then find out I had to believe in Hindu God? Isn't the agnostic position best one possible? I'm not a murderer, I don't do bad things. Why I can't go in heaven(if it exists).
Is there any reason to believe in Christian God? I mean, a positive constructive reason. Not something like "What you gonna lose?"
No, there is nothing other than God who is omnipotent or omnipresent. A false god is anything we worship who is not the One true God, which can be an idol, a human, a demon, a rock etc etc.I don't understand why you say "no other gods" means "anything else". Isn't a "god" an omnipotent(omni- etc.) being who is like father(or mother) to us?
Also I still don't understand why we are not in heaven already. We can decide to stay or go, can't we?
Matthew 19
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”
28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[e] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.
The problem is if I go ether way trying have hard belief that God does (or not) exist, I am constantly tormented by doubts I could be wrong. When I settled to agnosticism these doubts appear very rarely. I feel free when I have no doubts.Everything, a life you never knew you could have. In a word: Freedom.
The problem is if I go ether way trying have hard belief that God does (or not) exist, I am constantly tormented by doubts I could be wrong. When I settled to agnosticism these doubts appear very rarely. I feel free when I have no doubts.
Revelation 12
10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah.
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
11 They triumphed over him
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.
12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens
and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short.
John 10:10 (New International Version © 2010)
10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
Well, I definitely worship nothing. Even my agnosticism is only a world-view, helpful one for the moment.No, there is nothing other than God who is omnipotent or omnipresent. A false god is anything we worship who is not the One true God, which can be an idol, a human, a demon, a rock etc etc.
It is not for us to decide if and when we go to heaven, that decision belongs to God the Father. Originally heaven was for God and His angels.
Notice you can't fake it, you can't buy it, your heart must be sincere in wanting to love and honor the Lord so it is natural to have to address our grudges and seek to understand and accept God's point of view if we are to convert from being without God to being with Him.
I don't like my mind being controlled by someone. I prefer my thoughts to be my own. So, you say Satan can change my thoughts. If such entity exists and if I finally start believing in Jesus, how I will know that it was not Satan who is trying to keep me away from say Hinduism? In other words how can I be sure my belief is genuine and not manipulated?As long as we are playing into the hands of the enemy, he will not bother us. When we choose to be on side with God however, we have made an enemy of Satan. You need to put Satan in his place, which is under your heel. Once you demonstrate unfaltering faith in God then Satan will not bother you so much. As long as there is a hint of potential to sway your faith, he will not desist.
I don't understand why Satan hates the human so much, I think it is because he hates God that he seeks to destroy everything that belongs to God.
Jesus came to define those who belong to God from those who don't, we all have the same right to choose which side we belong to and while there is only one message of truth from Jesus, there are countless lies that the enemy may use to argue against it.
Well, I definitely worship nothing. Even my agnosticism is only a world-view, helpful one for the moment.
I agree that it is His decision. I wonder why He created unworthy creatures like us. He already had the angels, right? He could created us worthy like them. It is obvious He can do better.
It is quite hard to be sincere if you have constant doubts. Why it is so hard to believe?
Romans 5
Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned
...
17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive Gods abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!
I don't like my mind being controlled by someone. I prefer my thoughts to be my own. So, you say Satan can change my thoughts. If such entity exists and if I finally start believing in Jesus, how I will know that it was not Satan who is trying to keep me away from say Hinduism? In other words how can I be sure my belief is genuine and not manipulated?
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