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The question is, how best to reach out to atheist? The best place to start is with Love.
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The question is, how best to reach out to atheist? The best place to start is with Love.the love of Christ . . . oh how I'd love to go into that here...
Yes, those who claim to be Christian yet deny scriptures as truth
of God, promote Buddhism along w/ Christianity... etc etc.
"Love" without truth isn't promotion of the gospel tho which I see
alot of these days from people claiming to be Christian
Is she an atheist?The question is, how best to reach out to atheist? The best place to start is with Love.
I have a different feeling all together. I feel that even a little bit of Jesus Christ is better than no Jesus Christ. Atheist, even though they do not believe in Jesus as God, they still have an image of Love when they think of Jesus Christ. That's what they expect from what they consider true Lovers of Jesus as well.Aside from all that petty stuff, what good is it to reach someone
when a false message would bring them to destruction anyways?
I'd say they're much better off with Atheism than following a
false religion w/ added moral restrictions.
(not taking into considering levels of judgment that is).
So much for preach the Gospel huh folks. Better to pack it in before you've even started.Aside from all that petty stuff, what good is it to reach someone
when a false message would bring them to destruction anyways?
I'd say they're much better off with Atheism than following a
false religion w/ added moral restrictions.
(not taking into considering levels of judgment that is).
I know your posts around CF... this isn't the first time I've met you
as you know.
& personally, I took your post to me as rude..
& I'm not bitter - that would be the wrong word entirely.
So much for preach the Gospel huh folks. Better to pack it in before you've even started.
Thank you LightSeaker for giving a hoot.
I have a different feeling all together. I feel that even a little bit of Jesus Christ is better than no Jesus Christ. Atheist, even though they do not believe in Jesus as God, they still have an image of Love when they think of Jesus Christ. That's what they expect from what they consider true Lovers of Jesus as well.
The question is, how best to reach out to atheist? The best place to start is with Love.
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Is she an atheist?
oh and now I'm mocking loveWere I still an Atheist, I'd hardly consider someone who mocks love as someone who takes the Source of all Love all that seriously.
oh and now I'm mocking love
First bitterness, now this.Gosh what else will I
diagnosed with next?
This is why I posted what I did from the start.
You continually make false & rude accusations.
I assure you, I have much better & productive things
to do in my day than sit here & fester over such petty postings.
I'm sure another mistake 'christians make w/ Atheists
is that they fight & accuse other christians of horrible things
Yep I'm still here, I just said I dont' FESTER over petty posts, not thatYou were going for a joke at something's expense.
Didn't work.
Were I a psychoanalyst, I might say paranoia.
Well, then, why not explain your comment to the lurkers? I'm sure the seekers are quite puzzled by now.
Take a look at your comments thus far and consider what someone seeking the right path would make of it.
And yet you're still here. Do you really have better and more productive things to do then?
That wouldn't be a mistake Christians make with Atheists, but a mistake they make with each other. Besides, you haven't accused me of anything horrible... certainly not anything you haven't accused plenty of others before.
I'm sure the seekers won't be offended by you... much.
Well let's look at one of yours for contrast;Take a look at your comments thus far and consider what someone seeking the right path would make of it.
Yep I'm still here, I just said I dont' FESTER over petty posts, not that
I leave threads if they get tedious or testy... I don't scare easily
Well let's look at one of yours for contrast;
http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=47983899&postcount=130
My reply is what I stated earlier here regaring this topic:
what good is it to show this "Christian love" while we promote what
the bible directly condemns?
Love by itself doesn't save, God's truth does tho.
they can look thru my posts & notice that I don't support
gay marriages & other immoralities as if God blesses them.
THAT is just as if not more important than "love".
Just as God IS Love, God's Truth is also Love. Even non-believers understand that. As such, it's a great place to start out in reaching those who do not know God.My reply is what I stated earlier here regaring this topic:
what good is it to show this "Christian love" while we promote what
the bible directly condemns?
Love by itself doesn't save, God's truth does tho.
I don't recall disagreeing with love, I'm merely making the noteJust as God IS Love, God's Truth is also Love. Even non-believers understand that. As such, it's a great place to start out in reaching those who do not know God.
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nothing but bitterness and mocking love... other than that,Why should you be scared? Nobody's accused you or implied anything of the sort.
is THIS loving?Thank you for this blast from the distant past... it's a good thing you weren't FESTERING or anything, and were able to remember an old post of mine from last year by complete coincidence.
*sarcasm noted*The Bible condemns reaching out to non-believers? Isn't that the crux of the Great Commission? (I ask this simply to keep focused on the topic at hand... I'd hate to assume you've forgotten and drifted off into one of the gay marriage threads)
Sure, if only they believed the Bible was from God... but that's a wholeSome might say God's greatest truth is Love. And they might look at John 13:34-35 for comfirmation.
Red herring?Glad to hear it... although the lurkers might look at the hundreds of immoralities which the Bible mentions, but modern Christians, including yourself, give a free pass to. They might also wonder about your hangups on gay marriage, to the point of bringing it up in an irrelevent thread... but I'll let you field that question if it ever comes up.
And ANOTHER accusation!In the meantime, how does stressing God's truths without "love" reach out to non-believers?
Assume for a moment that I'm an atheist. (there's no way that I am btw) What would a shining example of Love look like as one tried to reach me? What do you think might catch my ears such that I would actually listened to someone? Or, what might one do?So I assume yours are the shining example here in comparison that I
should try to be more like?
Here's part of the problem - the definition of love itself being usedAssume for a moment that I'm an atheist. (there's no way that I am btw) What would a shining example of Love look like as one tried to reach me? What do you think might catch my ears such that I would actually listened to someone? Or, what might one do?
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nothing but bitterness and mocking love... other than that,
you're correct.
is THIS loving?
*sarcasm noted*
But it went to my point, so no, it wasn't off topic.
This thread is about what mistakes Christians make w/ Athiests, no?
So while they may try to show love, if they come with a different gospel
or promotion of evil in God's name, then how is that our Christian duty?
This isn't about secularism, it's specifically about Christian errors
w/ atheists.
So yes, I stand behind what I said, not what you're distorting it into.
Sure, if only they believed the Bible was from God... but that's a whole other thread
Red herring?
How does 1 supposed error invalidate another sin?
Just becuz a person makes a mistake on 1 doctrine doesn't mean
all others they claim are sin become lawful.
& again, my post quote wasn't irrelevant, it went directly to my
point which is directly on topic here.
We can show love all day long, but to go promote what the bible
calls sin is hardly helping an atheist, is it? In fact, it would probly
confuse many. My uncle & grandfather were both hardcore atheists
& they are/were more moral than many posts I read here from people
holding Christian icons.
People make the mistake of thinking Atheists are not moral - many are.
And ANOTHER accusation!
So far we have bitterness, mocking love & without love.
Can't wait to see what the next one will be.
There's such a thing as being DIRECT - or harsh, I disagree with unloving...
So I assume yours are the shining example here in comparison that I
should try to be more like?
Even non-believers know when another is not approaching them with a Heart filled with Love. And when we don't approach others with a Heart filled with Love, that's where the problem is. Not in definitions.Here's part of the problem - the definition of love itself being used today.
and now you presume to know what "I think I am" too?You assume incorrctly, Nadiine... I would never want you to be anything but yourself. I only hope and pray you someday see yourself for what you are, not what you think you are.
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