Re: Breast Augmentation

[Lludmila]

i can hardly say it is a sin. i know that surgery is invasive and that is the ONLY reason i might advise against it. i had the option to have jaw surgery (my lower jaw is too small) when i had my orthodontic treatment about 7 years ago. i opted against surgery because of the incasiveness. i am reasonably satisfied with my results just from wearing rubber bands with my braces. i think the surgery would have been cosmetic, though the braces were not.

people get gastric bypass surgery and i think it comes with a host of potential complications but i know people it has benefitted.

also, there are hormone topical creams and "natural" (whatever that means. safe?) creams you can use that supposedly can make you 2 or 3 cup sizes larger. i know bloussant is a brand name. i am not sure if it is considered safe or not.

and i have to disagree with the individual who said that having bigger breasts doesn't make you more womanly. yes it does. while i seriously doubt that you "aren't a whole woman" right now as you are, i can understand those feelings.

 

[Lludmila]

I also wanted to add a bit about those who have had breast cancer and have had mastectomies (spelling?). oftentimes they are encouraged to get prosthetic breasts. i am assuming that they are real similar to breast implants (if not exactly the same).

 

[Zeruda]

Hmm.. I don't think your breast size affects how much of woman one is at all. That's basically telling small-chested females like myself that I'm not as womanly as that C-cup lady in the corner because my genes didn't allow for that much growth. That's just... eh, kinda wrong, in my opinion. I don't think surgery is a good idea as of now. They're working on a new type of breast implant right now, and it won't be out for about 3-5 more years, so I suggest anybody who is considering it to wait. I, myself, have thought about it, but not for appearance reasons- rather because no matter where I go, I can't find shirts that fit me. If it fits me in the chest, then it's too short, and if it's long enough, I don't have the chest to fill it out, lol. But, you know, those pills really work for some people.

 

[Merlin]

Hmm.. I don't think your breast size affects how much of woman one is at all. That's basically telling small-chested females like myself that I'm not as womanly as that C-cup lady in the corner because my genes didn't allow for that much growth. That's just... eh, kinda wrong, in my opinion. I don't think surgery is a good idea as of now. They're working on a new type of breast implant right now, and it won't be out for about 3-5 more years, so I suggest anybody who is considering it to wait. I, myself, have thought about it, but not for appearance reasons- rather because no matter where I go, I can't find shirts that fit me. If it fits me in the chest, then it's too short, and if it's long enough, I don't have the chest to fill it out, lol. But, you know, those pills really work for some people.

Fortunately, it's not genetically coded.
We can easily change without surgery

But I have to agree about the clothes.

 

[TealTuesday]

I'm so under developed and small I look like a boy so I have been thinking about it. I don't know how God precieves it but I doubt He'd send me to hell over this. If He does well I want a really good talk beforehand.

 

[micbmac]

Well, since you asked...I believe you should be happy with what God gave you. You sound like an intellegent, beautiful person. It's important what you are inside not outside. Pride, afterall, was the root of all sin.

 

[jessesgirl]

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[jessesgirl]

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[Merlin]

I'm so under developed and small I look like a boy so I have been thinking about it. I don't know how God precieves it but I doubt He'd send me to hell over this. If He does well I want a really good talk beforehand.

One goes to 'hell' for rejecting Jesus.
Nothing else.

 

[Bay]

Do whatever you personally can stand behind. Let no one judge you.

 

[krisMuzik]

hello,

It's not wrong to want to look and feel better.

If the person who is augmenting their body begins to put this first before God (this all they think about and have to have all sorts/and such things done or they feel they can't live) than it becomes 'sin, ' just like anything else we put first before God in our lives would become sin.

God must always come first in all things in our lives if we are to live in His light and to continue glorifying Him.

I appreciate each of you reading. gb

kris~

Hi All,
I am new to this website and actually new to hearing from the Holy Spirit as of 6 months ago. I am struggling with trying to understand whether augmenting my body is wrong under God's law. Many of us have earrings, tatoos, wear make up, hair extensions, contacts, braces which augment our natural appearance. And as it relates to men they may die their hair, tatoors, earrings,buy flashy cars to augment their appearance or perception. I am a very very small busted lady and I want breasts. I feel like it would help me feel like a complete woman. I am not looking for attention from men, this truly is about my personal desire for myself. I an in a relationship with a Chrisitan man and at first he was ok with it, but now I think he questions where the desire is coming from, why I am not happy with my natural self. I have given thought to it, I love myself but want an enhacement. Can we discuss how God might view enhacements? Any bible references would be really heplful. Thanks.

 

[The Julikenz]

I had extreme views about beauty when I was a fundamentalist. From hair dye being wrong, to professional teeth shining being totally sinful, piercings&tats being the most deplorable sight ever, etc I had no peircings, didn't colour my hair, bother with makeup, nailpoish, elaborate hair styles (straightening? vain! ) and happily existed that way.

I agree with Bay, do what YOU can stand behind. It's ultimately about YOU and YOUR FAITH... what other people say is so irrelevant and unhelpful. Best of luck!

ETA: Thingy posted before I was done, oops.

 

[unpardoned1]

Do you have kids? When I had each of my kids, my bOObs got bigger each time, I am now happy. I had NONE before.

 

[Merlin]

Do you have kids? When I had each of my kids, my bOObs got bigger each time, I am now happy. I had NONE before.

That's great if it happens, but it doesn't always happen.

 

[moonkitty]

I don’t consider myself a Christian, so I can not advise you on any sort of biblical reason for or against. But what would concern me is this idea you have that bigger breast will make you a “complete” woman. I think you should feel complete with our without breast.

Just how would one define what a “woman” is let alone all of what you need to be “complete.” Women come in so many shapes and sizes that I think it’s crazy to say that one particular type of woman or breast size is the ideal and complete female. I have nothing against getting plastic surgery, but I think you should feel complete with or without large breast.

 

[Flashskeletal]

I just stumbled across this thread today. It parallel’s a topic a started a month or so ago titled “against breast implants” in the theology section, with a subheading of Christian philosophy and ethics. You are welcome to view it at
www.christianforums.com/t5192154-against-breast-implants-and-similar-plastic-surgery-html.

It is a long thread – like over 200 posts and I think it deals with the same issues raised in this topic. I am completely against cosmetic surgery and in particular breast implants (but completely in support of reconstructive surgery). The first post that I wrote on this topic – which explains my rationale – is listed below.

As a Christian, I am against breast implants and other non-health related plastic surgery However, I am noticing more and more Christian women getting breast implants and Christian men supporting breast implants. Simply sstated, I am look for open, honest, challenging and non-perverted dialog or debate on this issue. Here is my rationale against breast implants.

First, the Savior taught to see the insides of others, not the outside. I believe the very act of getting a breast implant is based on the worldly view that female worth is located by breast size. In the world, “real” woman have “larger” breasts. As such, women with smaller breasts or women who had mastectomies are then labeled in society as “less than.” This in turn, causes them to dislike themselves and question their worth. We need to act like the Savior and I do not think he could support the view that breast size equates female worth. I think the Savior (and therefore people) should see inner attributes of female worth – such as kindness, humility, meekness, intelligences, a strong work ethic, and service. By getting or supporting breasts implants, it send a worldly message -- non-purposeful -- that women with smaller breasts are “less than.” It hurts smaller breasted women and those women who get mastectomies. Further, the underlying ideology behind breast implants (e.g., women as sex objects) leads to a host other health concerns, such as eating disorders, depression, and so forth.

Second, whether a woman gets a breast implant for private or public display (although private is a better choice), it still reinforces a worldly view of seeing women as sex objects –it reinforces it. Further, because men have natural tendencies (both biological and learned) to see breasts as sexual toys, it reinforces the male tendencies to prefer larger breasts (rather than teaching men to see the inner beauty of women and simply appreciate her sexual attributes for what they are). Not only does these affect Christian men, but also it affects the male gender in general in society. Although this is a bit of a stretch, I think it could also have an affect on men and women desiring to have larger penises and go for cosmetic surgery in this area. But I’ll leave this thought as it is.

In closing, I want to add that I see a huge difference between reconstructive surgery (repairing what is lost, restoring functioning) and cosmetic surgery (augmentative beyond a normative or natural state). As such, I’m in 100% support of reconstructive surgery and can understand breast implants in mastectomies, when women are born with absolutely no breast tissue, or when losing everything after breastfeeding (and I do think the Lord intended women to breast feed). Because I think the Savior would embrace health and health function, I believe I should act as He would.

I look forward to thoughtful and Christ-like conversation.

 

[asianangel]

Very well said...and who is to say who is a 'real' woman or a 'real' man...they would go as far as saying 'real' men don't cry....whatever...it's absolutely foolish. Who comes up with these things? Anyway I think it's less of an issue of being 'real' (oh the irony) and more of an issue of being 'beautiful'. I saw Tyson Beckford in an interview and being one of the most gorgeous men on Earth, he almost got killed trapped underneath his burning car and his friends are like "You would have been finished with your modelling career." and he was shocked...he almost died and all people could think about were his looks.

 

[Springdew]

Hi Luvlearningtotrust,

Something to consider in breast augmentation ( since you are single) is the time you may marry and start a family. If I'm not mistaken, augmented breasts are not able to nurse babies, if that was something you would want to do.

 

[CCe]

That's great if it happens, but it doesn't always happen.

Merlin, you mentioned ways other than surgery. Can you give an example..for those of us who really don't look forward to the knife...

 

[Flashskeletal]

Luvlearningtotrust:

First off, I hope my post is helpful. Second, I recognize as a man that I can’t truly understand women and the breast size issue. I also want to recognize that I am fundamentally opposed to breast implants – but also realize that all people have their issues or temptations or struggles to deal with. I also agree with Springdew to remember the long term consequences of breast implants in regard to breast feeding (the real reason behind breasts), but also that there is no research looking at the long term effects of breast implants (like 30 years down the road) and that most plastic surgeries care about is money (its not their problem 30 years later).

However, there was one comment that you made in another post about small breasts – in the women who struggle with small breasts forum (which I located by doing a search on your name relevant to topics) and it was your boyfriend who suggested that larger breasts have more power. Such comments by men are not helpful, they cause greater doubt. What your boyfriend – or any male who loves you – should say is that the most important aspects of your breasts are what lie behind them – your heart. I think a big part of the breast implant movement are cro-magnum men who need to grow up and stop acting like boys going through puberty. Although I think more men than not are cro-magnum types, there are good Christian men out there that could care less about breast size and do not allow breasts to have any power over them. I know as a male it is easy to say, but use the scriptures and the Lord to help you see your worth, not a worldly Barbie-doll image (which includes non-surgical strategies also – sorry I disagree Cce).

I hope my comments are helpful.

To others:

Did anyone read the post on against breast implants? I’m just curious about general thoughts.