Random thoughts to consider....

Wheeler · Oct 1, 2010

Chickapee,

Yes, indeed, the Son of mans purpose is to save mens lives.not to destroy them. This is all a prophecy that was literally shown to us 2000 years ago.it is a prophecy for the last Day. The Lord shall send his messengers out to preach the revealed Truth so that we may prepare ourselves.

(Luke 9:51 KJV) And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,

The Greek word for messengers here is aggelos which is the exact word that is mostly translated angels by the translators. Men are to be angels or messengers of the Truth.of the Son of man. They are to make ready those who will listen to them. Like John the Baptist (Elijah,) they are the messengers who come to prepare the Way before the Lord..they will preach the kingdom of God in His Truth.

52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

But there will be those Christians who will not listen.they will not receive the love of the Truth and be saved. Jerusalem is symbolic of heavenly wisdom.and the peace that comes with heavenly wisdom.

53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

The wisdom from above (Jerusalem) is first pure.then PEACEABLE

(James 3:17 KJV) But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
4:1 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

The messengers are not to fight and war with those who will not listen. They are to be gentle to those who oppose themselves. .they are to love their enemy.

(2 Tim 2:23 KJV) But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

It is God who will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the revealed Truth.

25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

So that they may escape from the prison of the devilfrom his pastors.from sins. Many pastors who only preach themselves have taken many of the church into their snarestheir deceptive preaching of the Word of God.

26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

But surely enough, in the last days there will be men who will have nothing to do with the Truth. They will not listen. They like doing church as it has always been done. They will resist and contradict the Truth.

3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

They will resist the Truth. But it is God who has the vengeance on them.not for His messengers. His messengers are to preach the good news.the eternal gospel of deliverance from the prison guards (earthly-minded pastors) and their sins.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

His messengers are to be sent in PEACE to preach to those who should listen and be saved. James .which is Jacob in Hebrew and John represents those messengers..those 144,000 of all the tribes of Israel.in this last day.

Luke 9: 54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

They will be the sons of thunder because they will preach the revealed Truth. His voice will be heard through their preaching of His knowledge.

(Mark 3:17 KJV) And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder:

They shall be of the Spirit of Truth.

55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

Those Christians who will not hear the Truth and be saved in this last day are those who of the spirit of error. They will NOT hear us. But those who will hear are those of the Spirit of Truth. Those of the spirit of error will stick with the religious worlds current thoughts and ways. They simply will not listen. They will consider the spiritual Truth as foolishness.those that are naturally mindedthose that will continue to literalize the Scriptures.

(1 John 4:4 KJV) Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

TO BE CONTINUED>

Chickapee · Oct 1, 2010

Amen Wheeler , this is a good message
I thought of how the Lord would fight for his people

and how Jesus told them His Kingdom is not of this world
and How Jerusalem is from above "holy city" bride of the Lamb .
and our mother and though God is our Heavenly Father with Wisdom from Above

as Jesus Christ the Son of God come out from the Father concieved of the Holy Ghost ,

sent to us here as a perfect example , by the Spirit of the Holy Father that we might have

through the Spirit of Truth and be comforted to know that also we are not of this world , those born of the Spirit ..

the Lord told Moses, tell Israel that the Egyptians their enemies that He would fight for them and go before them to battle
Exd 14:14The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.

Jhn 18:36Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world,

then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Gal 4:26But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Jerusalem vision of peace and teaching of peace

Jerusalem = "set ye double peace" peace on earth as it is in Heaven as we dwell/ remain in these things

as we see with spiritual eyes single "eye-minded." vision and His teaching us about Him

the way truth and the Life , His peace not as the world offers peace , But His peace and comfort to our souls

Jhn 14:17[Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,

because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him;

for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you..J

hn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name,

he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

and same Spirit of prophecy teaching us and causing us to remember what Jesus witness/testimony is

Rev 19:10And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me,

See [thou do it] not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus:

worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Jhn 4:23But the hour cometh, and now is,

when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth:

for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

in Jesus peace .. C

Wheeler · Oct 2, 2010

Thank you Chickapee for those very relevant verses!

The Lord will send forth His messengers.His preachers of the kingdom of God.in this last dayin this coming time of the great harvest. His messengers will be the people who are born of heavenly wisdom.who are of the Spirit of Truth. They will preach what they hear the Spirit say in this last day of the great harvest that is coming.soon I think. The Lord will send His messengers..or angels.to testify of the deep things of God.of the revealed TruthChrist Jesus. The messengers of the Truth are the reapers who come to the churches to witness to them.

(Rev 22:16 KJV) I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Those that hear what the Spirit of Truth says.and the bride which is heavenly wisdom and those who are born of heavenly wisdom..are to repeat or preach what the Spirit says in this time of the great harvest.

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Those in the churches who will hear and receive that message of Truth in peace are those who are of God.who are of the Spirit of Truth. Those of the church who do not receive the Truth in peacein belief.in loveare not of the Spirit of Truth but are of the spirit of error.

(1 John 4:6 KJV) We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Those that will hear the Truth and receive it in love and peace are those that hear the Lords voice as preached through His messengers.His angels. Those that will despise the revealed Truth that will be preached to them, despises the Lord.

(Luke 10:16 KJV) He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.

But it is not the job for the messengers to call down fire upon them.they are to peacefully preach to those who will not listen. It is the Lords place to enact vengeanceit is His position to repay for their wickedness.

(Rom 12:19 KJV) Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

The messengers of the Lord are to feed them with the revealed Truth.this will be enough to heap coals of fire on their heads. The Lord will repay those who will not receive the love of the Truth and be saved.

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

The Lord shall send forth His messengers.as the seventy that He sent forth before His face.in the knowledge of God.in the peace of Godin the wisdom of God. He will send them to the churches to testify of the revealed Truth so that they may prepare themselves for Him.

(Luke 10:1 KJV) After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.

The great harvest of the churches and the Jews is coming.and the reapers are those people who are born of heavenly wisdom (the bride)who preach what they hear the Spirit of Truth saying in this last day. The end of the world = the completion of this age. This age of religious ignorance of the Truth and the resulting works of darkness of men is coming to an end. All things built by men that are on the sands of ignorance will be coming down. All the earthly-minded works of men will be burned in the fire..for the revealed Truth shall burn it away.destroying these things. When men know God, they will disown the works of ignorance.destroying them.they will cease.

(Mat 13:39 KJV) The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth in the fire. Those that will not receive the love of the Truth and be saved shall have their own wickedness and riches burn against them. There will be great distress and tribulation on those in the churches who will try and save Babylon . There will be great unrest.no peace. There will be great anger and lamentation to those who will not enter in to the Truth and be saved.

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

There will be great wrath upon those who will not receive the love of the Truth....the wrath of God. Those of the churches shall be "tormented with fire and brimstone"....be consumed with in their own wickedness....in the presence of the holy messengers of the Truth and the presence of the Lamb. Their own wickedness shall burn as a fire against them.

(Rev 14:10 KJV) The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

continued in next post....

Wheeler · Oct 2, 2010

.....continued from previous post.

Babylon will have completed her purpose. her end will come. Many pastors and church leaders have grown rich off the confusion over the Scriptures. The ignorance of the Truth has provided great opportunities to enrich themselveswhich they have taken advantage of. They have exercised great authority over the flock of Godover those who know no betterwho are the poor in Spirit. Many pastors have ruined His heritage.they have marred the Scriptures with their preaching of errorsmissing the mark.they have robbed the people of fruits of righteousness..they have robbed them of love for one another..they have led them down the wide road to ruinenvy and strife. When the people are no longer in ignorance of the Truth, then these pastors will lose control over the people.

(Jer 51:7 KJV) Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD'S hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
8 Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed.

Babylon shall not be healed. We are to forsake her.our own religious, ignorant thoughts and ways for the revealed Scripture of Truthfor His thoughts and ways.

9 We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.

We are to preach.to declare in Zion the work of the Lord our God.

10 The LORD hath brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of the LORD our God.

The Lord shall send forth His messenger as lambs among wolves. The wolves are the pastors and church leaders who will resist the revealed Truth. They will try to prevent others from hearing it also. They will want to keep their prey under their control.

Luke 10:3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.

This will be a not-for-profit directive. The messengers of the Truth will not be profiting on thisno writing books.no paid speeches.no embracing other religious mens ways of profiting from the message. As freely we receive, we are to freely give. We are redeemed without costwithout money.

4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.

We are to come in peace..to first say Peace be to this house. The revealed Truth comes in peace to us.in lowlinessin meeknessjust as Jesus entered into Jerusalem on a donkey. His face is as though he would go to Jerusalem.on the donkey in peace and meekness.

5 And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.

Those in the churches who will receive the peaceful Truth shall know the peace of Godthe son of peace shall be receptive to the preaching of the Truth that comes in meekness. But there will be those in the churches who will war against the Truthwho will resist and contradict.

6 And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.

His face is set to go to Jerusalem.

(Luke 9:51 KJV) And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,

His messengers.His angels .are before His facein peace and meekness with the revealed Truth. Whoever will not receive the love of the Truth and not prepare themselves for Him will be beaten with many stripes. But that is not the job of His messengers.they are to be peaceful preachers of the Truth.they come in the spirit of meekness.

52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.
53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

Jesus came into Jerusalem on a donkey..he came in meekness and having salvationand just. He came in peace. The revealed Truth comes also to those who will receive it the same way. They shall know God.His salvationHis mercy.His peace.

(Zec 9:9 KJV) Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

But the Lord shall cut off those things and people who will war against the Truth.the battle bow shall be cut off.

10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.

The revealed Truth comes in peace to us.it is spoken by His messengers of the Truth. But when they speak peace, there will be those of the church who will be for war instead. They will not peacefully receive the Truth but seek to resist it.

(Psa 120:6 KJV) My soul hath long dwelt with him that hateth peace.
7 I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.

The messengers shall not hear and afflict them..it is God who will repay because they will not change.they will not forsake their own wisdom and ways.they shall not fear God. They will not be in awe and reverence of His knowledge.

(Psa 55:19 KJV) God shall hear, and afflict them, even he that abideth of old. Selah. Because they have no changes, therefore they fear not God.
20 He hath put forth his hands against such as be at peace with him: he hath broken his covenant.

The son of peace will not be where they will have war in their hearts.

21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.
22 Cast thy burden upon the LORD, and he shall sustain thee: he shall never suffer the righteous to be moved.

Those proud of heartwho war against the Truthshall be brought down. The humbling process of those who will resist the Truth will be severe.

23 But thou, O God, shalt bring them down into the pit of destruction: bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days; but I will trust in thee.

When we find the revealed Truth that has been hidden in the field of the Scriptures, we are to sell all that we have..that is, sell our own literal, earthly biblical knowledgeour own wisdom of the Bible....and BUY the spiritual TRUTH. We are to rid ourselves of mans wisdom and receive His wisdom and peace.

(Mat 13:44 KJV) Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:
46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Chickapee · Oct 3, 2010

Amen Wheeler!!! ,
hope to study these more thoroughly , will be busy with my son Monday all day he was injured in a farm accident , just his finger its broken and shattered the bone and may loose his nail bed for sure ,Hopefully not the whole finger tip to knuckle God willing it will all work out as the Lord ,I do trust ....
will return as soon as possible GOD willing .
Did not want to leave you hanging bro ..

in Jesus name C ...

Wheeler · Oct 4, 2010

Ouch!! Sorry to hear that Chickapee! Hope everything works out for your son's finger. Will keep him in my prayers.

Wheeler

Chickapee · Oct 4, 2010

Thanks Wheeler ,
much appreciated ,,

Turned out he will be fine as it heals , He is young and healthy ,as the Doc put it , 4 to 6 weeks out of commission though , but will still be able to enter the Air force , he signed in , but this could have been a breach

Thank God all will be well , sorry for the interuption

now back to our studies Praise God

We are to preach….to declare in Zion the work of the Lord our God.

10 The LORD hath brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of the LORD our God.

The Lord shall send forth His messenger as “lambs among wolves.” The “wolves” are the pastors and church leaders who will resist the revealed Truth. They will try to prevent others from hearing it also. They will want to keep their “prey” under their control.

Luke 10:3 Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.

This will be a not-for-profit directive. The messengers of the Truth will not be profiting on this…no writing books….no paid speeches….no embracing other religious men’s ways of profiting from the message. As freely we receive, we are to freely give. We are redeemed without cost…without money.

AMEN!!! to this we are bought by the blood of the Lamb !
1Cr 6:20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

For he that is called in the Lord, [being] a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, [being] free, is Christ's servant.

1Cr 7:23Ye are bought with a price;
be not ye the servants of men.

Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.

awesome ! in His peace C .

Wheeler · Oct 5, 2010

Hi Chickapee, so glad to hear everything will be all right. Sounds painful though. Glad to hear his future plans will not be in jeopardy.

We are to be delivered from men who make merchandise of us. We are to be rescued from doctrines and commandments of men. Religious mans versions of salvation do not save. Man is not saved by his own earthly-minded works. Religious man is not saved by the wonderful works of his own vain glory.building great church buildings in Gods name does not save..building great ministries in His name does not saveworshipping on a certain day does not save.tithing ten percent does not save..going to church religiously does not save..over glorifying the pastor does not save. What we need to be saved from is those very things. We need delivered from pastors who only feed themselves.and their heavy burdens they place on people.doctrines and commandments of men. The Truth will save us.Christ Jesus will come to let His captives go from their prison cells. He comes to give the water of life to those who are thirsty. We are to be redeemed without money.without price.

(Isa 55:1 KJV) Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

What we labor for under the current task masters (pastors who feed only themselves) does not satisfy.

2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

We are to hear the revealed Truth..and believe. We are to hear and come to Him.who is the Truth, the Life and the Way. We are to hear and our souls shall life the Life He intended for us. Our local pastor Phd shall never give us that life. Only the True Shepherd of our souls can do that. He is the Truth.

3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

Our True Shepherd of our souls shall let the captives go..and NOT for price nor reward.

(Isa 45:13 KJV) I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.

The Lord shall hear the poor in Spirit..He shall rescue His prisoners.

(Psa 69:33 KJV) For the LORD heareth the poor, and despiseth not his prisoners.
34 Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that moveth therein.
35 For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they may dwell there, and have it in possession.
36 The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his name shall dwell therein.

The Lord shall give food to the hungry.He shall feed the revealed Truth to those who are not being fed by their current pastors.those who only feed themselves. He shall loosen the prisoners.He shall open the eyes of the blind.

(Psa 146:7 KJV) Which executeth judgment for the oppressed: which giveth food to the hungry. The LORD looseth the prisoners:

The Lord shall reveal His Scripture of Truth to the eyes of our understanding. We are to KNOW Him.we are to hear His knowledge and be saved.

8 The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:
9 The LORD preserveth the strangers; he relieveth the fatherless and widow: but the way of the wicked he turneth upside down.
10 The LORD shall reign for ever, even thy God, O Zion, unto all generations. Praise ye the LORD.

He will give us His bread..He shall send the Spirit of Truth to us so that we may know all thingsso that we may be saved with His knowledge.

(Isa 42:5 KJV) Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

With the revealing of the Truth.our blind eyes shall be opened.so that we may be let loose out of the prison of religious man. Many sit in their churches in the darknesswithout the knowledge of God. Many sit there listening to their pastors who only preach themselves.who only feed themselves and not the flock. They preach for moneyfor reward and care nothing for the prisoners. Many pastors are like the prison guards who keep watch over the prisoners.they do not preach the Truth.keeping them in the darkness. Many live in divisions, hatred and strife as a result.in darkness. But the Lord comes to let His prisoners goout of the prison house.

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

His glory shall not be given to anotherHis praise is not our works of darknessour doctrines and commandments of men.the graven images of our own righteousness.

8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.
10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.
11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains.
12 Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands.

In the Day of salvation, the prisoners shall go forth from their darkness. They shall no longer hear the pastors who only preach themselves. They shall hear the revealed Truth and be saved.

(Isa 49:8 KJV) Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;

They shall no longer hunger and thirst but shall be fed the revealed Truth in His Way of righteousness.

9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Show yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places.

The current pastors have caused many of the flock to hunger and thirst. They have smote them as the sun.in the day of adversity. The harsh teachings and commandments of man are like the beating of the sun on those who are thirsty in the desert. The Lord shall lead us to the springs of water.to the revealed Truth.

10 They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide them.
11 And I will make all my mountains a way, and my highways shall be exalted.

The Lord shall send out His messengers to preach the revealed Truth so that man can be saved from his present imprisonment. But there will be many pastors who will not let their prisoners go. They will command people who will hear the Truth not to receive it. They shall try and seduce the people with fleshly preaching. Some shall fall for their false teachings.in the face of the revealed Truth.

(1 Tim 4:1 KJV) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

They shall try and forbid us from marrying the revealed Truth.they shall preach that we should abstain from meats.the spiritual meat of the Word of Truth. They shall resist the Truth and cause others to resist it also.

3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.

Christ Jesus is that spiritual meat.and that spiritual drinkwe are to partake of. He is the revealed Truth.

(1 Cor 10:3 KJV) And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

Let us not hear those pastors who will try and seduce those people from the Truth.preaching doctrines of devils.

6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Wheeler · Oct 6, 2010

The Lord shall send forth His angels.His people with the message of the revealed Truth. They shall preach what they hear the Spirit of Truth saying. They will KNOW the Scripture of Truth.not missing the mark. They shall speak the revealed Truth to those who need to be rescued from those who do not spiritually know the Scriptures nor the power of God.

(Mat 22:29 KJV) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

They will not marry strange doctrines of men. Mans doctrines and commandments will not be regarded.the Truth sets us free. They will be as the angels of God in heaven.MESSENGERS of the Truth.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.

Yet, there will be resistance to the preaching of the Truth by pastors and church leaders who will not understand because they will not have received the love of the revealed Truth. They will contradict.oppose.bring railing accusations against those who will preach the Truth. They will be naturally-minded and perish in their own corruption. Yet His messengers will not bring against them a railing accusation.

(Jude 1:9 KJV) Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

Jesus did not accuse the Pharisees. It was Jesus who disputed with the church leaders of the day over the body of Moses.over the writings of Moses. The body of Moses = the five books of Moses.

(John 5:43 KJV) I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

Moses own writings testified against them. The Word of God will likewise testify against those who will resist the revealed Truth. The Word of God will be a swift witness.

45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

The messengers of the Truth in this last day are not to render evil for their evil.railing for their railing. For they (unbelieving pastors and church leaders) shall rail against those who will speak the Truth.

(1 Pet 3:9 KJV) Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

Like David, the Lord shall send out His messengers (Hebrew word malak = angels.) And like Nabal, many pastors will rail against themswooping down upon them in their natural minded contradictions.

(1 Sam 25:14 KJV) But one of the young men told Abigail, Nabal's wife, saying, Behold, David sent messengers out of the wilderness to salute our master; and he railed on them.

The Lord shall send forth his messengers with the message of peace:

(1 Sam 25:5 KJV) And David sent out ten young men, and David said unto the young men, Get you up to Carmel, and go to Nabal, and greet him in my name:
6 And thus shall ye say to him that liveth in prosperity, Peace be both to thee, and peace be to thine house, and peace be unto all that thou hast.
7 And now I have heard that thou hast shearers: now thy shepherds which were with us, we hurt them not, neither was there ought missing unto them, all the while they were in Carmel.

They will come in a good day.the Day of salvation.

8 Ask thy young men, and they will show thee. Wherefore let the young men find favour in thine eyes: for we come in a good day: give, I pray thee, whatsoever cometh to thine hand unto thy servants, and to thy son David.
9 And when David's young men came, they spake to Nabal according to all those words in the name of David, and ceased.

He will send them out with the message of peaceto preach the eternal gospel.

(Luke 10:3 KJV) Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
4 Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
5 And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
6 And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.

Yet, like Nabal, many pastors will not recognize His messengers for who they are. They will consider them as break aways.people with no church affiliation.unlearned people that dont have Phds from an accredited Bible college.people with no biblical authority in their eyes, etc. etc.

(1 Sam 25:10 KJV) And Nabal answered David's servants, and said, Who is David? and who is the son of Jesse? there be many servants now a days that break away every man from his master.
11 Shall I then take my bread, and my water, and my flesh that I have killed for my shearers, and give it unto men, whom I know not whence they be?

From such men...like Nabal...the messengers will "turn away." Turning away from men who love themselves...the covetous....the false accusers...etc. The messengers will be "young men"...having put on the new man Christ Jesus.

12 So David's young men turned their way, and went again, and came and told him all those sayings.

Like Nabal, many pastors have sheared the sheep..taken away the righteousness of the peoplemaking them poor in Spirit. With their teachings and ways, they have led many astrayaway from the path of righteousnessand into the path of divisions, hatred, strife, envy, coveting after church riches, etc. etc. The sheep have been sheared in Carmelfruitful field. They have grown rich from shearing the sheep.

(1 Sam 25:2 KJV) And there was a man in Maon, whose possessions were in Carmel; and the man was very great, and he had three thousand sheep, and a thousand goats: and he was shearing his sheep in Carmel.

(1 Sam 25:4 KJV) And David heard in the wilderness that Nabal did shear his sheep.

Like Nabal, many leaders are churlish and evil in their deeds.

(1 Sam 25:3 KJV) Now the name of the man was Nabal; and the name of his wife Abigail: and she was a woman of good understanding, and of a beautiful countenance: but the man was churlish and evil in his doings; and he was of the house of Caleb.

They will not receive the love of the revealed Truth.men will not be able to effectively preach the Truth to them.for they will not hear it. Belial = without profit.

(1 Sam 25:17 KJV) Now therefore know and consider what thou wilt do; for evil is determined against our master, and against all his household: for he is such a son of Belial, that a man cannot speak to him.

Nabal is their name..folly is with them.

(1 Sam 25:25 KJV) Let not my lord, I pray thee, regard this man of Belial, even Nabal: for as his name is, so is he; Nabal is his name, and folly is with him: but I thine handmaid saw not the young men of my lord, whom thou didst send.

The resisters of the Truth shall be like Nabal.doing evil in the last days.

(2 Tim 3:1 KJV) This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

They will never be able to come to the knowledge of the revealed Truth and be saved. They will not believe in what they hearever learning.

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

There will be men of corrupt minds in the church who will resist the Truth.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

Like Nabal, folly is with them and their folly shall be revealed unto ALL men.

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

But the messengers of the revealed Truth are to turn away from them.not engage them in their evil speaking.not to render evil for evil. The Lord shall judge His people.vengeance is His. He will recompense those who will not receive the love of the Truththe knowledge of the Truth.

(Heb 10:26 KJV) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Wheeler · Oct 7, 2010

Many pastors and church leaders have enjoyed the works of their own hands for a long period of timea season. They have fulfilled a purpose in Gods plan.and the season for them to repent of their thoughts and ways comes. No longer is religious man to bow down to his own works and his own wisdom. God is not the work of our hands.He is not like gold, silver, stone, etc. He is not our church richesour big church buildings, our grand ministries, our large church bank accounts, our religious books that we write, our music, etc.

(Acts 17:29 KJV) Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

God has overlooked the ignorance of our church ways and thoughts in times pastbut now commands ALL men everywhere to repent. He has not punished us as was deserved.

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

He has a appointed the Day in which He will judge the world in righteousness by Christ Jesusthe Truth.

31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Many pastors have long enjoyed their runtheir season of vanity. They have enjoyed their empty labor of their hands under the sun of the day of adversity. That has been their reward in this life. But that empty-works season is growing to a close and the Day of salvation comes in which we are to repent and turn back to the Lord.

(Eccl 9:9 KJV) Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.

The Lords Day comes upon usa time when He will judge every mans workhow will man receive the revealed Truth in that Day?

(1 Pet 1:17 KJV) And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:

For we will not be redeemed with those corruptible things that religious man works in covetousness for . We are not redeemed with the wonderful works of our own handswith our riches.silver and gold. We have received our vain conversation by tradition from the church fathers. The behaviorslaborsof religious man is empty.not a result of the spiritual Truth.

18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Christ Jesus is that Truth that will be revealed to us in these last timesso that we may repent of our own ways and thoughts and be washed in his blood.

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Let the pastors and church leaders not be like Nabal when confronted with the messengers of the revealed Truth. Nabal denied knowing David.some pastors will deny the Son of man before men.

(1 Sam 25:10 KJV) And Nabal answered David's servants, and said, Who is David? and who is the son of Jesse? there be many servants now a days that break away every man from his master.

Those that would deny the revealed Truth, shall be denied before the MESSENGERS of God.

(Luke 12:8 KJV) Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
9 But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.

The pastors of the day of adversity have enjoyed the works of their hands.and the power over the flock. They have been glad and rejoice..as they destroy His heritage.as they shear the flock that is His. They have grown rich off of shearing the flock.just as Nabal sheared his flock.

(Jer 50:11 KJV) Because ye were glad, because ye rejoiced, O ye destroyers of mine heritage, because ye are grown fat as the heifer at grass, and bellow as bulls;

But the season grows close in which they are to release their prisoners from their grievous ways and thoughts. The flock has been in their powerin their control.and the time is coming in which they are to be rich to God instead of laying up treasures for themselves.

(1 Sam 25:8 KJV) Ask thy young men, and they will show thee. Wherefore let the young men find favour in thine eyes: for we come in a good day: give, I pray thee, whatsoever cometh to thine hand unto thy servants, and to thy son David.

The time is coming for pastors to repent of their own ways and thoughts and preach the revealed Truth to the flock of God. Like the instruction given to Pharaoh, they are to LET HIS PEOPLE GOso that they may feast upon the revealed Truthso that they may worship God in Spirit and Truth.

(Exo 5:1 KJV) And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness.

Yet, like Nabal, there will be pastors who will not let them go.they will not be rich toward God. It is all about MY things here:

(1 Sam 25:11 KJV) Shall I then take my bread, and my water, and my flesh that I have killed for my shearers, and give it unto men, whom I know not whence they be?

Yet, their lives will be demanded of them if they will continue to lay up treasure for themselves and are not rich toward God. The time grows near for them to deny themselves and follow after the Truth.Christ Jesus. The days of their vanity is coming to an end.

(Luke 12:21 KJV) So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

His peopleHis flock has become their bread.they have been enriched by the deceiving of the flock. They have had no knowledge of God but only knowledge of evil. The Nabal pastors will not give up their bread.

(Psa 14:2 KJV) The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.

The Nabal-like pastors will not give up their flesh.those sheep who are under their care:

(Micah 3:1 KJV) And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; Is it not for you to know judgment?
2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;
3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
4 Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.

It is the pastors who have caused many to stray awayto errnot knowing the Scriptures properly.They "bite with their teeth" the people.

5 Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.

Many pastors have been as carnal childrenoppressing the people with their covetous works and doctrines.

(Isa 3:11 KJV) Woe unto the wicked! it shall be ill with him: for the reward of his hands shall be given him.
12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
13 The LORD standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.

The Day of judgment will arriveand those who will eat up His vineyard shall be judged. It is time for religious man to repent of his works and do the works of God instead.

14 The LORD will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses.
15 What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord GOD of hosts.

Chickapee · Oct 7, 2010

Hi Wheeler
Glad to see your still posting ,
Awesome !!
been having phone troubles for the past two days!

the county workers severed the land lines in several places
we just got ''juice '' with dial -up at 5:30 tonight , but thats even temporary

Oh well ........making the most of it , here and now

And

after reading your first post and some of the 2nd one ,,,

I thought of Peter being in prison and the church of Christ prayed for him

and how the angel of the Lord/ Jesus come to him to set him free !

Act 12:7And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon [him],

and a light shined in the prison:

and he smote Peter on the side,

and raised him up, saying,

Arise up quickly.

And his chains fell off from [his] hands.

and Peter thought it was a vision , but he Lord set him free and the Lord was glorified in this ! !

God bless you , I will read the rest

in Jesus C ...

Wheeler · Oct 8, 2010

Chickapee, sorry to hear about your technical difficulties. I know I go through withdrawal without internet service! lol. I can live without the phonejust not the internet.

Yes, Peter being released from prison is a veiled prophecy of the church being released from the prison that Satan and his ministers have been keeping many in. This has happened to the church by His design...His plan...and in order to display His glory...His power...His knowledge. Praise God for His manifold wisdom!!

The release of the prisoners is done by the Truth being revealed.the angel of the Lord. Herod represents Satans dark kingdom.he has stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church. He has put many in a spiritual prison to try the church. The church has been in a prison for a long time now.

(Acts 12:1 KJV) Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church.
2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.

The church was taken prisoner while it was youngin the days of unleavened bread.while the church was of one mind and spirit. Then the tribulation started.

3 And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

Satan then apprehended many of the church and put them in a spiritual prison. The four quaternions of soldiers are the four horses that have affected the church: the confusion of the bible, the spiritual sword..hatreddivisionsfighting within the church, the spiritual famine of hearing the Word of God, the spiritual death..hades. The church is likened to Peter and what did happen to him 2000 years ago.

4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

The church has been kept in a spiritual prison.and it is God who will deliver them.who will open the door.

5 Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him.

The works of the church have been the works of darkness.bound with two chains.ENVY and STRIFE. The keepers before the door kept the prison = pastors and church leaders who perpetuate this situation with their erroneous doctrines and commandments of men. It has been the night season of the church. The church has been sleeping just as Peter.

6 And when Herod would have brought him forth, the same night Peter was sleeping between two soldiers, bound with two chains: and the keepers before the door kept the prison.

It is the knowledge of Godthe Light of Godthat will shine in the prison in order for the church to wake up from its sleep and be delivered from Satans prison of darkness. The chief messenger of the Lord comes to preach the eternal gospel of salvation. Not as man preacheswhat man has preached in the churches has kept many in the prison itself. Many men only preach themselvesfor their own vain gloryand have deceived many. Many in the church have fallen asleep are sick because of the poisonous preaching of earthly-minded men. The chains of envy and strife shall fall off the hands of the church..no more works of darkness.

7 And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands.

Many in the church shall put on Christ Jesusthey shall put on garments of righteousness and FOLLOW HIMthe Truth. They shall walk in the good Way.in the Word of Truth. No longer will they be deceived by earthly-minded pastors who think that gain is godliness. Let us put on the garment of salvation.and do the true works of God. Let us follow Him in the Way of righteousness.

8 And the angel said unto him, Gird thyself, and bind on thy sandals. And so he did. And he saith unto him, Cast thy garment about thee, and follow me.
9 And he went out, and followed him; and wist not that it was true which was done by the angel; but thought he saw a vision.

The gates of Hades will not prevail against the church..for the Lord shall reveal His knowledge from heaven..from above. His wisdom is PURE. Mans wisdom is corruptible and from belowof the earthdevilish. The Light shall shine in the dark prison.His knowledge shall release us from earthly-minded men.

10 When they were past the first and the second ward, they came unto the iron gate that leadeth unto the city; which opened to them of his own accord: and they went out, and passed on through one street; and forthwith the angel departed from him.

Let us gird ourselves in every good worklet us bind our sandals.and walk worthy of the Lord.

(Col1:10 KJV) That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

For He will make us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in Light. We shall be preachers of the revealed Truth so that others may recover from the snare of Satan who has taken them captive at his will.

12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

With His knowledgeHis Lightwe are to be delivered from the power of darkness and to be translated into the kingdom of His Son.

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

We have forgiveness for our sinsour works of ignoranceof darkness. We are forgiven for going astraywe are forgiven for our envy and strife and hatred of one another. We are in ignorance of the revealed Truthwe know not what we do in our churches.

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

We are to become His messengers of the Truth if we hear His wisdom today. Going back to Nabal and Abigail: Abigail is a veiled reference to the heavenly wisdom of God. The wisdom of God is personified in Proverbs as a woman..a woman of good understanding and of a beautiful countenance.

(1 Sam 25:3 KJV) Now the name of the man was Nabal; and the name of his wife Abigail: and she was a woman of good understanding, and of a beautiful countenance: but the man was churlish and evil in his doings; and he was of the house of Caleb.

Abigail means father of joy.and we bring the Father in heaven joy if we hear and embrace His wisdom:

(Prov 29:3 KJV) Whoso loveth wisdom rejoiceth his father: but he that keepeth company with harlots spendeth his substance.

We are to hear what Abigail says in this last day.

To be continued.

Chickapee · Oct 8, 2010

wow ! Thanks that was good about the church being set free
and the Light come knowledge of Jesus Christ ,2Cr 4:6For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness,

hath shined in our hearts,

to [give] the light of the knowledge

of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

But we have this treasure in earthen vessels,

that the excellency of the power may be of God,

and not of us.

[We are] troubled on every side,

yet not distressed;

[we are] perplexed, but not in despair

Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;

Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus,

that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake,

that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

So then death worketh in us, but life in you.

blessings in Jesus name....... C

Wheeler · Oct 10, 2010

Jesus has the keys to let His church go from mans bondage.mans doctrines and commandments of men. He will release the church that is dead. asleep.from the prison that Satan and his ministers have deceived many into. Christ Jesus is that Truth that will set us free. The many in church are only asleep and need to be awakened so that they may have Life more abundantly.

(Rev 1:18 KJV) I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Whoever shall hear his Word of Truth and believe shall be set free.His Word is Truth.His interpretation of the Scriptures is the revealed Truth. We shall know the Truth in this last day.

(John 8:31 KJV) Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

The hidden Truth as revealed in the Scriptures shall give us the spiritual knowledge to escape from earthly-minded pastors and church leaders.who have been the prison keepers of the church. We shall then see the folly of men....the missing of the mark of those who have previously led many astray.

33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

For the devil.through his ministers..have cast many of the church into a prison and are to be released with the coming revelation of the Truth.Christ Jesus.

(Rev 2:10 KJV) Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

The church has been tried just like Peter had beensifted as wheat. Satan has cast many into a prison in order to test ittempt it. Only Jesus is the one without sinand has paid for our sins that we do in ignorance of the Truth.

(Luke 22:31 KJV) And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

When the Lord reveals the Truth to us, we are to HAVE FAITH and believe in this Truth that we are to hear in this last day. He has prayed that the faith of the church shall be there at the appointed time. The church should recognize the revealed Truth when it is finally heard. When the church is finally converted.turned back to God through the hearing of the revealed Truth, then it is to strengthen our brethrenit is to preach the revealed Truth to the brothers.the rest of the church.AND THE JEWS.

32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Like Peter indicated in verse 33, the church has indeed gone into prison and to death. Many of the church are in a spiritual prison and death. asleep to righteousness. They are only asleep thoughtheir condition is to be rectified by the revealing of the Truth. They are to awake to righteousness and put on Christ Jesus.

33 And he said unto him, Lord, I am ready to go with thee, both into prison, and to death.
34 And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me.

The church is to awaken out of its sleep and cast away all of its works of darknessworks of ignorance that only promotes divisions, envy and strife and hatred within the church. We are to "know the time"....to have FAITH in the revealed knowledge of God.

(Rom 13:11 KJV) And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

The awakened to-the-Truth church is to put on Christ Jesus.

14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

When the churches are finally converted back to God through His knowledge being revealed to it, then they are to strengthen the brothers who need to be fed with the Truth. They are to feed His sheep when they finally wake up and put on Christ.

(John 21:17 KJV) He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Like Peter, when the church was young, it had no problems. But as it became older, then Satan and his ministers had infiltrated the church (the tares sown while men slept) and have led many astray.after earthly-minded doctrines and commandments of men. They have gird the church with works of darkness and have led many down the wide path of ruin.they have carried thee whither thou wouldest not.

18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.

This is the type of death that the church has endured.all for the glory of God. This was "signified" by Jesus to Peter.

19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

The Lord has the keys of Hades and death to let His church go. His church will then truly FOLLOW Him in this last dayafter it has been converted back to God.and then it can truly feed the sheep. The putting of the church into a prison to be tested has been according to the plan of God..in order to display His gloryHis mercyHis forgiveness.in these last times.
Now John, who was the beloved disciple of Jesus, is symbolic of the church who has endured the temptation of Satan and have loved one another. Only the few have entered through the narrow Way into the Life of Christ. They LOVE ONE ANOTHER. They have not been led astraythey are the little flock. They have waited patiently for the Lord to come and rescue the rest of the church who have fallen for the temptation of Satan.being led into the prison where there are divisions, strife, envy and hatred. The "Peter" church has been snared by Satan who has taken them captive at his will...in order to test it. The "John" church leans upon the breast of the Lord at His supper....they LOVE ONE ANOTHER...the true Lord's supper. They have been protected.

20 Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?

They have been in Christ Jesus...patiently waiting for Him to come...the revelation of the Truth.

21 Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?
22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.

The church who has loved one another are the "Benjamins" of the church....the "beloved of the Lord"....because they love one another. Joseph = a veiled type for Jesus Christ. Joseph and Benjamin are of the same "mother"...Rachel...who is a veiled representation of heavenly wisdom. Just as John leaned upon the breast of Jesus at the supper...just as Benjamin dwelt between the shoulders of the Lord...the church of brotherly love has dwelt in safety while the devil has devoured many with the deceptive preaching of his ministers. Those that love one another "dwell between His shoulders."

(Deu 33:12 KJV) And of Benjamin he said, The beloved of the LORD shall dwell in safety by him; and the LORD shall cover him all the day long, and he shall dwell between his shoulders.

Johnthe disciple that Jesus lovedrepresents the church of Philadelphia.the church who loves one another.

(Rev 3:7 KJV) And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

They are the little flock that has truly been living in God. They have little strengthfor the enemy has been strong. Yet, they have kept His Word.TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER. They have NOT denied His nameas compared to the Peter church that has denied Him by their works of darkness.

8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

They love one another as He has loved them.

9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

They have kept the Word of His patience..waiting patiently for the Lord to come rescue the rest of the church who has fallen victim to the deceptions of Satan and his ministers.

10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

John .the disciple who Jesus loves.represents the church who has loved one another during this time of trial of the rest of the Peter-likened church by Satan. They have been faithful to His Word.to love one another. They have kept the new commandmentthe new testamentthe new covenant.the Lords supper. They are the "little flock"..the "little children."

(John 13:33 KJV) Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.

They have loved one another as He has loved them.

34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

They have kept the Word of His patience. Like what was shown at the cross, this church has taken his mother home to live at their homes. They have taken heavenly wisdom into their hearts and have lived accordingly.

(John 19:25 KJV) Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.

The church who has loved one another during this time of trial has taken heavenly wisdom into their own homes. The disciple John represents the church who loves one another as the rest have crucified the Scriptureswresting them..in their envy and strife and hatred for one another. The church of Philadelphia has taken his mother into their homes. They have kept His Word.His faithHis Word of patience.

26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

The church who has loved one another has kept the Fathers commandment.to love one another. They have not forsaken the law of thy motherheavenly wisdom.

(Prov 6:20 KJV) My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

They have taken her into their heartstheir homes.

21 Bind them continually upon thine heart, and tie them about thy neck.

Loving one another while the rest of the church is asleep has kept them in His love.

22 When thou goest, it shall lead thee; when thou sleepest, it shall keep thee; and when thou awakest, it shall talk with thee.
23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

By doing so, they have been kept away from the woman Babylonwho seeks to seduce those who do not love one another with her doctrines and riches. Many of the church have been led astray by the woman Babylon.

24 To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.
25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.

Chickapee · Oct 10, 2010

AMEN Wheeler , His Church / Body called out from the world and set free for Himself
it is in heaven and not of the earth though Paul explains this in Gal 4 in allegory

Sinai / Hagar she answers to Jerusalem . but is still in bondage with her children

Gal 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him [that was born] after the Spirit, even so [it is] now. Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman

shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

for me this also goes into the WOMAN / CHURCH in the wildreness in Rev 17

Rev 17:3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

to the Woman/ church in rev 12

Rev 12:1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

comparing the two churches /women I can see that one is a trap set for those whom are foolish and do not trust in God go into bondage of Babylon , still earthly sensual and devilish
and that Woman / True Church of God IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH / Body of Christ Him being the head all authority , is fulfilling all of Gods will ... birthing the offspring , seed of Christ of spiritual children which keep the commandments of God, who have the testimony of Jesus Christ and His witness in them by the Lord Himself

much Blessings in Jesus name C .

Wheeler · Oct 11, 2010

Indeed Chickapee, there seems to be two groups in the church.one small group of the church is currently living the commandment of the Lordto love one anotherand a large part has gone to sleepthey are asleep to righteousness. A few have truly entered into His life while many have entered through the wide gate by way of false prophets. They have gone the way into divisions, strife, envying and hatred.into ruin.

(Mat 7:13 KJV) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

It is the pastors who only preach themselves who deceive the many down the wrong path. They misinterpret the Scriptures and not spare the flock.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

It is the little flockthe fewwho have truly followed Himthey know His voice. They love one anotherthey do not hate each other over doctrinal differences.

(John 10:4 KJV) And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

The little flock of sheep will not follow a strangerthey will not give heed to pastors and church leaders who seek to devour them with their false doctrines and commandments. They recognize the strangers by their fruitsthe pastors pride, selfish ambitions, love of money, etc. They know not the voice of strangers. They will flee from them.

5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

The few are of little strength because of the powerful enemythe tares that have been planted within the churches. They are the ones who have kept His Word and have not denied His namethey are the few who have Life in Him.

(Rev 3:7 KJV) And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

While the many were hauled off to Babylon, the poor were left in the land of Judah (spiritually speakingleft in Christ Jesus) to be vinedressers and husbandmen. Likewise, only the few poor who are of little strength continue to keep His Wordwho love one another with unfeigned love while the many are in bondage to Babylon.

(2 Ki 25:10 KJV) And all the army of the Chaldees, that were with the captain of the guard, brake down the walls of Jerusalem round about.
11 Now the rest of the people that were left in the city, and the fugitives that fell away to the king of Babylon, with the remnant of the multitude, did Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard carry away.
12 But the captain of the guard left of the poor of the land to be vinedressers and husbandmen.

They the fewthose of little strength.are the chosen poor of this world who are rich in faith. They wait patiently for the Lord to come rescue all of us from the enemy.

(James 2:5 KJV) Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

They are the little flock who patiently wait for the Lord to come in His kingdom. They shall be heirs of the kingdom.

(Luke 12:32 KJV) Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

Yet, the Lord shall rescue the other sheep who are not currently following Him. He will bring back again those who have fallen asleepwho have wandered awayscattered by the self-seeking pastors of the churches. He will forgive the other sheepthe many. for their sinsfor their hatred...for their strife and envyingand covetousness.

(John 10:14 KJV) I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

Jesus is the Lord also of the "other sheep"...those who have gone astray...who have fallen "asleep" under the teachings of false prophets.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

The sleeping sheep shall awaken to His voiceand the revealing of the Truth shall set them free from earthly-minded men who only preach themselves. We shall all be of ONE fold thenunder One Shepherd. This Day is coming soon.

The books of 1st and 2nd Thessalonians are specifically written to the church that loves one another.the little flock that currently follows Him. They are of the church of brotherly love. Philadelphia. They are taught of God to love one another and do what He commands.

(1 Th 4:9 KJV) But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

They are not ignorant of those who have fallen asleep. The many of the church have fallen asleep.they are currently asleep to the Truthasleep to true righteousness. They sorrow.because the teachings of men brings worldly sorrow to the many.strife, envy, hatred, divisions. Yet, the few know that the Lord shall bring them again. He shall awaken them to righteousness so that we should all be of one flock. The many think these verses are about the dead who have departed from this world already. It is NOT. Those who are asleep are asleep under the care of false prophets and need to be awakened.

(1 Th 4:13 KJV) But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

They are "asleep" in Jesus...their sins are forgiven by his sacrifice. Those who are "asleep" know not what they do. They are forgiven!

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

Those who are currently following the Lords voice are alive and remain unto the coming.PRESENCEof the Lord. They are ALREADY in His PRESENCE. Coming = parousia = presence. They are already NEAR to the Lord. They are already awake to His presencethey are not asleep like the many.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

Theythe church who loves one another...the church of the Thessalonians...the church of Philadelphia are already in the presence of the Lord. God is love.

(1 Th 2:19 KJV) For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?

The Lord comes to awaken all of those who are currently asleep in their churches. His voice shall speak in this last Dayand they shall hear Him. They are in their graves.under the power of false prophets who keep them asleep with their teachings and commandments.

(John 5:28 KJV) Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

We are His sheepwhether we are awake or asleep. We are to hear His voice and not harden our hearts to the revealing of the Truth. Let us not love sleeplet us open our eyes of our understanding to His revelation of the Truth and be satisfied with His interpretation of the Bible.

(Prov 20:13 KJV) Love not sleep, lest thou come to poverty; open thine eyes, and thou shalt be satisfied with bread.

Some shall not believe when they hear itthey will seek to hang onto mans interpretation of the Scriptures. They will seek to stay asleep. They will seek to keep doing church as it has always been done. They will seek to keep their traditions of men.they will seek to keep their own doctrines and commandments of men.they will seek to keep their church richesthey will seek to continue writing religious booksthey will seek to continue making His sheep merchandise. Let us not harden our hearts if we hear His voice in this last Day.the Day of salvation. Let us deny our own religious thoughts and ways for His thoughts and ways.

(Psa 95:7 KJV) For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,
8 Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my work.
10 Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways:
11 Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.

Wheeler · Oct 12, 2010

When the negative influences are removed from the church (mans doctrines and commandmentsand those that preach them,) then we can shine as the sun in the kingdom of the Father.

(Mat 13:41 KJV) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

We shall all be caught up together..all awakened to His presence by His knowledgein His power. Then we are to shine as the sun in the kingdom of God. Not literally speaking here. We are to preach His knowledge to the rest of the dark world..as the children of the Light.as the children of the Day. We are to be His witnesses in TRUTH here upon this earthto the rest of the world.

(1 Th 5:5 KJV) Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

Christ Jesus is that Light that we are a part of..his countenance shines as the sun..we are of the body of Christ. We, as a unified body, are to shine the greater Light upon this worldupon this darkened earth. We are to shine as the sun in His strength.in His power. We are the children of the Day..of the spiritual Truth.

(Rev 1:16 KJV) And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

The greater lightChrist Jesus who is the Truth. rules the coming Day.he will give His Light upon the earth....and we will share in this work of God.

(Gen 1:16 KJV) And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

We shall fill the earth with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord. We shall shine in the air in the power of the Lordas the sun upon this earth. We are to be unified in one mind and Spirit to be preachers of the Truth.

(Hab 2:13 KJV) Behold, is it not of the LORD of hosts that the people shall labour in the very fire, and the people shall weary themselves for very vanity?
14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

We are not to be literally removed from this earth as some see being caught up.but we are to be fruitful with His revealed Word of Truth and multiplywe are to be preachers of His Truthrevealers of His knowledge to this dark world. We are to replenish the earth and subdue it. We are to be fishers of menhaving dominion over the fish of the sea.

(Gen 1:28 KJV) And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

We are to subdue the earthcasting down the imaginations of man. Man's doctrines and commandments are of his own imagination of what he thinks the Bible says literally. We subdue the earth with the knowledge of God. We subdue the earthbringing every thought of man to the obedience of Christwho is the revealed Truthwho is that Light of the knowledge of God. We do this by being fruitful with His Word of Truth.

(2 Cor 10:4 KJV) (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

We are to be unified in brotherly love in one mind and one bodythe mind and body of Christ.and are to be fruitful and multiply with His Word. We shall not be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

(2 Pet 1:8 KJV) For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Then we shall delight ourselves in the Lordand He will cause us to ride upon the high places of the earthand will feed upon the revealed Scripture of Truth. The cloud of witnesses shall disclose their hidden mysteriesthe mysteries of the kingdom of God.

(Isa 58:14 KJV) Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Chickapee · Oct 12, 2010

Wow , great scriptures Wheeler , we know the contrast of the 2 women / churches Jerusalem from Above and Babylon

What do you make of the seven churches ,what do you think they are?

I have always wondered about this

7 churches in Rev 1 that are in the Lords right hand with the seven stars /angels

Rev 1:20The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
I really just do not know about this part of it , what does this mean ?

in Jesus peace C ..

Wheeler · Oct 14, 2010

In Revelation, John wrote to the seven churches of Asia ..which is spiritually written to us (the church) specifically for the last Day. Asia means sunrise, resurrection, east..and we are of the churches that are to awaken in this dawning of a new Daythe Day of salvation. The church is to awaken to the sunrise of God's Truth and knowledge. It has been the night season of the church where many have fallen asleep under the leadership of false prophets.pastors who only feed themselves in their covetousness. False prophets have "privately interpreted" the Scriptures in their own earthly wisdom. They literalize the Bible which keeps the hidden mysteries hidden. Jesus is that Light that shall shine in the darkness of man's understanding.the revealing of the Truth. He will reveal the secrets of the kingdom of God that are hidden in the Scripture of Truth. He is the bright and morning star that men are to awaken to.to awaken to His righteousnessthe sun of righteousness.that will dawn in our hearts through the hearing of the CORRECTLY interpreted Bible.

(Rev 22:16 KJV) I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

His knowledge and Truth shall shine like the early morning at first. Only a few will be awake to see the slight glow of the coming morning sun while many men still sleep. Who hasnt seen the very early morning glow of the coming sun? It is yet still dark.the night still hanging on to its last hurrah. The dark only exists because of the absence of light. One can still see the stars up in the heavens.but those few who are awake know that the night will be passing away. The sun will be coming up shortly in which the rays of light shine from the east to the west. The night will only have a short time left before the day star arises and many more people shall awaken to its light. Our sun is a star.and all the stars we see in the heavens are suns. One knows it will be soon time to go to work.to work the works of true righteousnessto be children of the Day.in the Day of salvation.in the Day of the sun of righteousness.that will rise with healing in its wings. Many of the church who has been bogged down in their hatred, in envy and strife and divisions.in sin.shall be healed. The churches of Asia are the churches today that are to awaken in the morning sun of the Truth.His knowledge. Then the members of the churches shall be set free.the Truth shall set them free from men who only preach themselves in the earthly-wisdom of their own imaginations. They shall go forth as calves released from the stall.

(Mal 4:2 KJV) But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

For as the lightning comes out of the east and shines to the west, so shall the coming of the Son of man be. Lightning is the Greek word astrape which means bright shining. It comes from the word aster which means star. I speculate that what is really being spoken about here is the day star.the sunthat comes out of the east and shines to the west. The sun is the only thing that consistently shines in this manner every morning.from east to west. It is the sun that will rise up in the dawning of His Truth in the dark mind of man. It is the coming .. parousia..PRESENCE of the Son of man. It is the presence of the revealed Truth that shall shine from the Scriptures into the hearts of men.

(Mat 24:27 KJV) For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Jesus Christ is the Light of the knowledge of God that shall shine in the dark place..he is the first rays of Light that we shall see in the darkness of the early morning. It is better to take heed in the very early morning of the new day.to hear his interpretation of the Scriptures.to hear and understand His knowledge. The day shall dawn and the day star shall arise in our hearts. The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecyit is his interpretation of the Scriptures that we are to hear in this dawning day..and not mans private interpretation.which is darkness. Mans interpretations of the Bible is without Truthwithout Light.they are darkness.

(2 Pet 1:19 KJV) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

It is by the Spirit of Truth shall we know the correct interpretation of the Scriptures.

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

What John wrote to each church of Asia is to a specific body part.of the body of Christ. We are the body of Christ. The churches are to awaken to the Truth and forgive one another. "Asia" = the resurrection...the awakening of the churches to the revealed Truth. The churches are to come together in this last Day as ONE body and ONE mind in Christ Jesus. There are many members but the body of Christ is ONE.

(Rev 1:11 KJV) Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

The body of Christ is ONE.yet has many members. John wrote to each member class of the one body.

(1 Cor 12:12 KJV) For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

Again, the body of Christ is not one member but many.

(1 Cor 12:14 KJV) For the body is not one member, but many.

Each member of the body of Christ has a specific functionor functions. His awakening church members shall come together as ONE in one body and one mindin Christ Jesus. They shall overcome and put on the new man.Christ Jesus.

15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?
20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.

What John saw was the assembled (future) body of Christ that will come together in His Truth and knowledge. We shall be like Him.

Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

There are many members of the body but only ONE body. We are to awaken in this morning and put on the new man.Christ Jesus. We are to crucify the old man of religion.which is corrupt. We are to put on the incorruptible.

14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

John wrote specifically to each member of the body. The members are to be of ONE body. Paul also wrote to SEVEN churches. Each of his epistles correspond to a church in Asia as written by John. For example, the epistle to the Ephesians corresponds to the church of Ephesus as recorded in Revelation. The body part that is specifically written to is the head. The church of Ephesus = the head of the body of Christ. Not every church member is the head.

To be continued

Chickapee · Oct 15, 2010

Thanks Wheeler
I was looking for some key words and stumbled upon them seven stars in Amos pleiades found in Job also for the seven stars angels cluster
seems to be related 5:7 Ye who turn judgment to wormwood, and leave off righteousness in the earth,

5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name:

I see that

Ephesus is the only one written of being in danger of the candlestick being removed the Light from its place Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent
for leaving its first Love

Lots to consider in these scriptures

Blessings C ..

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