Random thoughts to consider....

Wheeler · Aug 21, 2010

.....continued from previous post

We are to open the door when we hear His voice.when we hear His revelation of the Scripture of Truth. It will be the Day of salvation to those who seek His facewho seek His knowledge and receive the love of it. He comes to preach in the Spirit of Truth who will reveal all things to us.all the hidden things of the Scriptures.all of His knowledge. He went through the cities and villages..a veiled message of the revelation of the hidden knowledge of the Scriptures. Jerusalem = the wisdom of God..the mother of us all.

(Luke 13:22 KJV) And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,

We are to receive the love of the Truth that He preaches to us in this last day. Remember the men of Sodom who wearied themselves in seeking to enter through the door.

24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

But that door will be shut one day on those who will not receive what is preachedwhat is revealed. Those men will have loved their unrighteousness more than the Truth and will realize this when it is too late.

25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

They will have been ever learning but will not be able to come to the full knowledge of the Truth to be saved. Their own love for their big church buildings, big ministries, big religious merchandise, etc will prevent them from entering in through the door. They will not be able to deny themselves and be saved.even though they will hear the Truth being preached in the streetsthey will not retain itbut will hold down the Truth with their unrighteousness..being unfruitful and barren.

26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

What will a man give in exchange for His soul? What profit is there in gaining the whole world and losing our souls? Religious man must deny himself.his works.his doctrines and commandments of menhis hatred.his religious riches that were gathered by deceit preaching in order to follow after the Lord Jesus Christwho IS the Truth..the Way and the Life. The "ransom of a man's life are his riches"....the unjust gain that was obtained from the poor in Spirit by deceitful preaching of the Word. Many "peddle" the Word of God today....they have made His temple a house of merchandise....a den of thieves.

(Prov 13:8 KJV) The ransom of a man's life are his riches: but the poor heareth not rebuke.
9 The light of the righteous rejoiceth: but the lamp of the wicked shall be put out.
10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.
11 Wealth gotten by vanity shall be diminished: but he that gathereth by labour shall increase.

What profit is there if men gain the whole world in their unrighteousness and lose their souls?

(Mat 16:26 KJV) For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

The Son of man comes in the glory of His father through the revelation of His knowledge.His revealed Scripture of Truth. His angels are His preachers of the revealed Truth.

27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

He shall reward every man according to his worksaccording to how he receives the revealed Truth. The Truth shall reveal what is in mens hearts. Those that will do the work of God will believe in that revealed Truth in this last Day. They will believe in the preaching of the Truth and be saved.

(John 6:28 KJV) Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
30 They said therefore unto him, What sign showest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

Our Lord comes to open up the Scriptures to our understandingHe comes to give us the TRUE bread from heaven. The bread of God is the full knowledge of the revealed Word of Truth.

31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.
32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

God will interpret what Moses (and everyone else) has said in the Scripturesman will not live on just the surface letter of the Scriptures.but also will hear His interpretation of those words. Man shall LIVE by the anointed , living Word of God who will enlighten our minds to the deeper, spiritual meanings of the Bible. He will reveal His full knowledge from heaven.

(Mat 4:4 KJV) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Chickapee · Aug 21, 2010

love that about Lot and the door and those being struck with blindness and wearing themselves to ''find '' the door .. that'' Door'' being Jesus Christ

I know that blindness is in Gods will for this cause Rom 11:25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

but also there it is plain as Day ...

Eph 4:18Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

I know that Jesus gives a great warning here for those ''who see '' as they are decieved in their own hearts that being the light of darkness
and how great is that darkness ...Jhn 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.And [some] of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
Jhn 9:41Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth

this seems to fit the above lesson to be learned here .. the Light being knowledge of God and the eye how we percieve this knowledge and use it
Mat 6:23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great [is] that darkness!

thanks for the good posts again they make me think and remember

in His peace C ..

Wheeler · Aug 23, 2010

Hi Chickapee, thank you for those verses.

The Gentile church must remember what happened to the Jews 2000 years ago.because it will also have its repeat of similar events. They had their time of visitation by the Lord.the church will have its Day of the Lord.its time of visitation. Jesus came and preached to the Jews for their salvation.He comes to preach salvation to the churchand the world. It was the religious that were preached to 2000 years ago..the lost sheep of Israel..there will also be preaching to those in the church who have lost their way.who need rescued from sin, death.from covetous preachers. John the Baptist preached repentance to the people of Israelto the Pharisees.to those who should be listening. There were those Jews 2000 years ago who did not believe in the Truth that was taught.there will be those among the church who will also not believe and be saved. It will be a complete repeat..a complete circuit of events. The Lord comes to open up His knowledge to us and we, as a church, must believe in what He says and be saved. He comes to open the eyes of the blind of those who will believe and blinds those who will notgiving them over to their luststo a reprobate mindto be filled with all unrighteousness. As it says..there shall be mockers in the last time. These mockers are not outside the church but INSIDE it. These mockers will be as the religious Pharisees and Sadducees of yesterday.

(Jude 1:18 KJV) How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

Those in the church are supposed to see the Light and come out of the darkness of mans religious thoughts and wayshis strife and envy. The Lord reveals His knowledge from heaven through the Spirit of Truthand we are to hear what the Spirit says and be saved. He will build His church upon the rockthe Rock of Christ Jesuswho is the revealed Truth. It is His revelation of the Truth that will build the church into one new man.and not as man has built upon the sand of earthly thoughts and ways.

(Eph 4:15 KJV) But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

When we come out of the church darknesswe are no longer to walk with those who will not believe.those unbelievers in the church itself.

17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Outside in the darkness will be those who will not hear and believethey will not do the Truth and be saved. Instead, they will seek to keep their religious lives of envy and strifecoveting after the things of this world. Those that claim to see in our churches shall be blinded by their own unrighteousness..they will turn their ears from the Truth.

18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

As Hannah prayed, our Lord is a God of knowledge..He will save those who hear who see.

(1 Sam 2:1 KJV) And Hannah prayed, and said, My heart rejoiceth in the LORD, mine horn is exalted in the LORD: my mouth is enlarged over mine enemies; because I rejoice in thy salvation.
2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.

A man will be judged by his own words.his actionsby how he will receive or reject the Truthfor the Lord is a God of knowledge. We are to hear this revealed knowledge and be saved. Those who will not hear and receive the love of the Truth will rise up in pride.they will let arrogancy come out of their mouths.and be judged.

3 Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.
4 The bows of the mighty men are broken, and they that stumbled are girded with strength.

Those that were full chased after their own covetousnessand will come to their own poverty. Those that have been hungry for righteousness shall be filled with His righteousnessthat comes with the revelation of the concealed Truth. The barren is heavenly wisdom that shall bear her children. She that has many children.the woman Babylonshall wax feeble. The woman who has many children is the earthly wisdom of manwho has enslaved many to mans doctrines of bondage. Earthly wisdom has made many poorpoor in Spirithaving no fruits of the Spirit because of the envy and strife within the church.

5 They that were full have hired out themselves for bread; and they that were hungry ceased: so that the barren hath born seven; and she that hath many children is waxed feeble.

But the Lord will rescue His people from the rich pastors who exploit the poor in Spirit. He will make them alive in His revealed knowledge of the Truth. And the rich He will bring lowbecause they will have not humbled themselves at His Truth.

6 The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.

7 The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.
8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them.

The wickedthose of the church who will not depart from their sins after hearing the truthshall be silent in darkness. For outside in the darkness will be those who will not humble themselves to the Truth.. who love their own covetousness.their own religious strife and envying. Mans strength will not prevail.

9 He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.
10 The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the LORD shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed.

By His knowledge shall the Lord justify many. Many shall hear His revealed Truth in this last day and be saved. He shall bear their iniquitiesHe shall forgive and be merciful to the believing lost sheep of the church. He will make intercession for the transgressors of the church. He made his grave with the richthe rich, covetous pastors of the church. The poor in Spirit have lived in deaththey are his body.and have suffered from the exploitation by the wicked in the church itself.

(Isa 53:11 KJV) He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Heavenly wisdomthe mother of us allhas been desolatemany have not heard her voice and obeyed. She shall break forth into singing.she shall cry aloud. It is heavenly wisdom that will cry aloud to us in this last day.

54:1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

The wisdom of God shall cry aloud for us to listen. Who will hear her voice in this last day? Where are her children?

(Prov 8:1 KJV) Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.

It is the simple in the church who are to understand heavenly wisdom.

5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.

The Truth shall be revealed in this last daywhich will guide us to His righteousnessto His knowledge.

7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.

His instruction and knowledge are better than mans. Mans earthly understanding brings toil and strife and chasing after the things of this world....chasing after the wind. Religious man seeks to make a name for himselfvain glorywith his religious building and planting.

10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.

Chickapee · Aug 23, 2010

Yes ! exactly Wheeler ,
It does seems to me that ''religion'' or those leaders entrusted with His Word , yet had not His Spirit in them . has defiled His Holy name causing many to not enter into the Kingdom of God
nor do they enter themselves of this parable Jesus speaks here ;
Mat 21:31 Whether of them twain did the will of [his] father? They say unto him, The first.

Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you,

That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not:

but the publicans and the harlots believed him:

and ye, when ye had seen [it], repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.
and here also
Luk 11:52Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

I appreciate your explaining the facts that the lost sheep of Israel were indeed fed by the Lords Spirit and truth , though many have yet to repent and enter still in the end
makes me think of Jesus saying here ..

Luk 13:30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first,

and there are first which shall be last.

till the fulness of the gentiles come in . thanks for the post it helped alot
peace C

Wheeler · Aug 25, 2010

The Jews will indeed enter into the kingdom of heaven in this last Daythey will be grafted inthey will be healed..they will believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. They will be healed from their wandering in unbelief.from not knowing the Way of righteousness.from not knowing their Messiah and his sacrifice for their sins. The lame man that was healed at the pool of Bethesda is a literal parable.a prophecy of the healing of the Jews on the spiritual Sabbathin the last Day. This pool was named Bethesda.meaning house of mercy. The Lord will show His mercy to them after so long. This pool had five porches.indicating the five books of Mosesthe Law.the Torah. It was Moses who would testify against them because of their unbelief.

(John 5:2 KJV) Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches.

They did not believe Moses writings..so how could they believe in the words of Jesuswho is the Truth? The five porches = the writings of Moses that stands against them because of their unbelief.

(John 5:45 KJV) Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

They are the great multitudeas the sand of the sea.that are blind, halt, witheredand they are still waiting for the Messiah.

John 5:3 In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water.

An angel went down at a certain season into the pool and troubled the water. The first that stepped into the pool after the troubling of the water was made whole.

4 For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.

That angel was John the Baptist who came to the Jews to preach repentance to the religious who needed saved from their sins. He was the messenger..Greek word aggelosmeaning angel. He troubled the water.with his preaching.

(Mat 11:10 KJV) For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

He came at a certain season.to preach repentanceand those who repented were first to enter into the kingdom of heaven. Those who were the first were the harlots and the publicansthe sinners among the people of Godamong Israel. They were the first to believe in the words of Jesus. Many rejoiced in John the Baptists light for a season until Jesusthey were prepared to hear and believe the words of Christ Jesus because of Johns troubling of the water.

(John 5:35 KJV) He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.
36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

The sinnersthe publicans and the harlotswere the first to go into the kingdom of God before those self-professing religious Pharisees and Sadducees. They were the first who stepped into the pool at Bethesda.the house of Gods mercy. The religious Pharisees did not repent at the preaching of John the Baptistthey did not prepare themselves for the Lord Jesus Christ. They did not go in the Way of righteousnessthey did not make their paths straight for the Lord. They did not believe in the words of Jesus.

(Mat 21:31 KJV) Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

It was the violent who stormed into the kingdom of heaven.it was the sinners among the people who took it by force. They were the first early believers of John the Baptist preachingthey were the first to repent and be saved.

(Mat 11:12 KJV) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force

Remember Calebwhich means forceful, dog.he was eager to at once go and posses the promised land in the face of the unbelievers among the children of Israel. It was the sinners (the Calebs of the people = so-called dogs) of the people who were at once ready to take possession of the kingdom of Godthe promised land.

(Num 13:30 KJV) And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.

It was the publicans and sinners who were born of heavenly wisdom. They were the first that became friends of Jesus.who believed in his words.

(Mat 11:19 KJV) The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

And getting back to the pool .there was a certain man there who had an infirmity for 38 years. This is speaking of the Jews who did not enter into the kingdom of heaven because of their unbelief. They had not entered into the Way of righteousnessthey have not walked in His straight path of righteousness. The Lord comes to heal them of their unbelief.from their infirmity.

John 5: 5 And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?

The 38 years is a reference to when the children of Israel wandered in the desert. They did not enter into the promised land because of their unbeliefthe Jews also did not enter into the kingdom of heaven because they did not believe in Jesus words. The space of time was 38 yearsthe time that elapsed from Kadeshbarnea.which means the desert of wanderinguntil they came over the brook Zered which means to be exuberant in growth. The Jews have spiritually been wandering in the desert of unbeliefbut the Lord comes to heal themmake them whole. He will heal them from their withered condition so that they may grow up in the Lord.

(Deu 2:14 KJV) And the space in which we came from Kadeshbarnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, was thirty and eight years; until all the generation of the men of war were wasted out from among the host, as the LORD sware unto them.

The Lord has consumed those men of warwho warred against the Truth that Jesus preaches. The hand of the Lord has been against them....those who do not believe.

15 For indeed the hand of the LORD was against them, to destroy them from among the host, until they were consumed.
16 So it came to pass, when all the men of war were consumed and dead from among the people,

They have not been able to enter into the kingdom of heavenas the lame man was not able to go into the pool. Those that stepped down into the pool before him were the sinnersthe publicans and the harlots. They repented at John the Baptists troubling of the waterat his preaching and so were able to believe the Lord Jesus Christ..they were prepared to enter into his kingdom.

John 5:7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.

It was the publicans and the harlot that stepped down before the lame man into the pool.into the kingdom of God. The Pharisees and Sadducees.the religious could not humble themselves at the preaching of Jesus. They were secure in their own righteousnesstheir own religious ways and thoughts.

(Mat 21:31 KJV) Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

But Jesus comes to heal themto make them whole. so that they may believeso that they may be able to walk in the Way of righteousness.

8 Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.

He will come in this last Day.the spiritual Sabbath.to make them wholeand they shall walk.

9 And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
10 The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed.
11 He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk.
12 Then asked they him, What man is that which said unto thee, Take up thy bed, and walk?
13 And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place.

When He heals them.they are to sin no more. They shall be found in the temple of God..we shall be as one with themin one mind and Spirit. We are the temple of Godand He will dwell among us in one body, mind and Spirit.

14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

It will be Jesus who will make them whole.Jesus is THE Truth. He is the Way of righteousness. No one can walk in that Way without him.

15 The man departed, and told the Jews that it was Jesus, which had made him whole.

It is those of the Gentile Christian church who will humble themselves at the preaching of the Truth who will be saved in this last Day. Those who are comfortable in their self-righteousness.like the Phariseeswill not humble themselves. It is those who will admit they are sinners.the spiritual publicans and the harlotswho will accept the revealed Word of Truth in this last Day. The Jews had experienced their time of visitationthe day of the Lordand those that did not believe suffered the judgment of God and were not able to enter in. But now, in this last Day, a great multitude of the Jews shall enter in .for He shall be merciful and heal them from their infirmity.just as the lame man in Bethesda.

Chickapee · Aug 25, 2010

wow!! awesome I love the way you see things Wheeler ...
I do understand this , by reading the Bible and some studies done in private !

I can see this work of God though John the Baptist which represents = all the Law and prophets in the Sprit and power of Elias / ElijahMat 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.And if ye will receive [it], this is Elias, which was for to come. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
the curse being cut off , in Zech 14 ;12 and zech 5;3 the flying scroll and also seems to show the cross , those on the left of Christ Jesus/ Word of God and the right being those thieves and robbers the liars those who fought against Jerusalem /the teaching of peace or vision of peace .. same as this here ..Jhn 10:8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pastureThe thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

You bring up so many good points I dont know where to go with it !!!

But its great to look into these things ... Matt 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 seems to be what Jesus speaks clearly on coming and the end of the old ,or is here now still His presence/ Spirit , this is also the reforming of and bringing in the new covenant , they are all so connected
and love how you bring these up , I do miss them and am not able to see as clearly , but get glimpses here and there

hope to be able to see / say more on this later
Blessings C .

Wheeler · Aug 26, 2010

Hi Chickapee,

Indeed, John the Baptist represents the Prophets. The prophets of old warned Israel time and time again to repent of their sins and turn back to Godor face judgment. They were always warned first before the wrath camethey were instructed into the Way of righteousness.

(Mat 3:7 KJV) But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
10 And now also the ax is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

The prophets always pointed the children of Israel back to the Torahthe five books of Moses.and John the Baptist pointed toward Jesus who represents the entire Scriptures.the Scripture of Truth. He is the Truth. Jesus comes to open up the Scriptures for our understandingso that we may see our sinsour misses of the Truth. We can then see how so wrong we have been in attempting to interpret the Bible with our own wisdomand we can then make the paths straight. We can then rectify our misses of the Truth. We have done things in the ignorance of the Truth and are forgiven.

(John 1:29 KJV) The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

And what was John the Baptists baptism really about? It was about repentanceabout changing the mind. The only way to truly repent is to humble ourselves at the Truth.to remove our own ways and thoughts and humbly accept the Word of Truth that is planted within us. John baptized in the Jordan.and Jordan means descender. To be baptized in the spiritual Jordan is to humble our hearts at the Truth. We must descend (be baptized in the Jordan) from our highly esteemed, religious thoughts and imaginations and accept the revealed knowledge of the Truththe revelation of our Lord Jesus Christwho opens up the Scriptures.

(2 Cor 10:4 KJV) (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Those that can humble themselves shall be exalted in His Spirit of Truth. When we humble our hearts in front of Godin His knowledge of the Truth, then we shall also see the heavens open.we shall understand His Word of Truth. All of the eyewitnesses of the Bible and their writings are the clouds of heaven that will divulge their hidden mysteries. The clouds shall rain His revealed knowledge. We shall understand all things with His Spirit of Truth who will guide us.and no man will teach us. The Spirit will also descend upon us if we can descend.humble our hearts.

(Mark 1:9 KJV) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:

We are to be born from abovefrom heavenly wisdom. When we humble ourselves (descender), we are to be exalted (coming up out of the water) in the Spirit of Truth

11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

As Christians, we are to purify our souls in obeying the revealed Truth through the Spirit. We are to love one another in the revealed Truth.

(1 Pet 1:21 KJV) Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

We are to be born again.not of mans wisdom of the Word of God but of the incorruptible Word of the revealed Truth. Our church fathers knowledge of the Scriptures has been wrongmissing the mark of the Truth. Our religious wise men have been incorrect all along. Their books and teachings have been in error..we have been born of corruptible seed.incorrect doctrines of men.

23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

What man has built with his own wisdom and knowledge of the Scriptures.his religious empires and his religious works, shall wither and fall away at the revealing of the incorruptible Word of God.the revelation of the knowledge of the Truth.

24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

We must humble our hearts at His Truthto have a broken and contrite heart.

(Psa 51:17 KJV) The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

(Psa 34:18 KJV) The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.

He shall dwell with those who are of a contrite and humble spirit..He will revive the Spirit of the humbleHe will exalt those who will humble themselves at His Word of Truth..He will exalt those into His high and holy place. But first we must be baptized in the Jordan.we must descend from our own religious pride, ways and thoughts.we must bring forth fruits of repentance.

(Isa 57:15 KJV) For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Chickapee · Aug 27, 2010

I have been so busy trying to mow and weed whack and cut back the brush , I have not been able to get on line and just rest in thought of the Lord , so I am doing this now and wow!! Thanks ! after reading your last post , I love this , so true its is all about repentance and change of mind / heart .. This brings me to another question ...
Its the way it worded Wheeler . slept with their fathers ?Blue Letter Bible - Search Results for KJV

I wonder what that means because Jesus said something about your fathers ate manna in the wilderness and are dead ,

So I wonder how this works with Jesus being the bread from heaven , making alive though the Spirit and truth ..

Jhn 6:49Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness,

and are dead.

This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

I am the living bread which came down from heaven:

if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever:

and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?

Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man,

and drink his blood, ye have no life in you

Jhn 6:58This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead:

he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
Just curious to know what that means exactly ? Wondering what your thoughts are on this ...

it must be something to do with till Jesus time of his coming down from heaven and revealing His Spirit and Life in us , our flesh ?.. but not really sure , I am a bit perplexed with it really .

manna means Strong's H4478 - man
From מָה (H4100)
1) manna
a) the bread from Heaven that fed the Israelites for 40 years of wilderness wanderings
b) means 'What is it?'

many blessings in Jesus name C .

Wheeler · Aug 29, 2010

Chickapee, sounds like you have been busy, busy.

Here are my thoughts..probably going to sound like a broken record here.but eating the flesh of the Son of man and drinking his blood is all about the Truth being revealed through the Scriptures in the last Dayand receiving that Truth as the Word of God in belief..receiving the love of the Truth. The Lords opening up of the Scriptures is done with words that enliven the eyewitnesses words of the Bible. He speaks to us with the Spirit of Truth which brings life to its hearers and believers.

(John 6:63 KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus is the revealed Word of Godhe is the Light that shines in the darkness..the knowledge of God that will enlighten the mind of manwhose mind is full of darkness.whose mind is full of his own earthly understanding of the Bible. Jesus is the revealed Truth. The Word of God comes forth from God.and he interprets the Scriptures as intended by God. The revealed Word saves us from sins and will make us be of one body and mind in Him.a new man. When we misinterpret the Scriptures, we miss the mark of its Truth.

(John 8:42 KJV) Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Christ Jesus is that Truth..he is the Word of God as spoken in the Truth. Mans teaching of the Scriptures (his wresting of them) is with his own fleshly mindhis own earthly wisdom. The flesh profits nothing.mans preaching of the Bible in his own wisdom profits no one. All it does is bring divisions, strife, hatred and envying to the church body.mans wisdom brings death to its adherents. Man has been living by the written, outward letter of the Scriptures. But our Lord Jesus Christ is the Word of God spoken in the Spirit of Truth.he IS THE TRUTH of the Scriptures. He is the knowledge of God who will save us. We were to love one another as we wait in faith that Christ Jesus will come..that the Truth will be revealed in the last Day.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

Those that are of God will hear the revealed Word of God.the revelation of Jesus Christ.in this last day.

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Those that are of the Spirit of Truth.who are of Godwill hearthey will understand and do the revealed Word of God. Those of the spirit of error will continue in their earthly, fleshly, outward understanding of the Scriptures. They will continue to keep it in its plain surface meaning.earthly. They will still see it as historical events. They will not hear and obey the Truth that transforms the words of the Bible into the living Word of God which will transform our hearts.

(1 John 4:6 KJV) We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Eating the flesh of the Son of man and drinking his blood is about receiving the living Word of God.that transfigures the Scriptures into living words.into the instruction of the Way of righteousness. It is about receiving the revealed Word and loving that Word that comes from God. It is the true bread from heaven.

(John 17:8 KJV) For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

Christ Jesus is that anointed (Christ = anointed) Word of God that saves us (Jesus = Jehovah saves.) When he speaks, he speaks the Word of God..he IS the revealed Word of God.

(John 17:14 KJV) I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

His Word is Truth.the revealed Truth. Truth = aletheia which means truth as NOT CONCEALED. We are to be sanctified from our own earthly ways and thoughts by His revealing of the Truth in this last Day.

(John 17:17 KJV) Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Our Lord Jesus Christ is the revealed Truth in ushe is the revealed Word in us that will make us perfect in one bodyone mind.one spirit. His church will built upon the rock of the revealed Truth from heaven. His revealed Word will achieve this in the last day. With the revealed Truth in us, the glory of God will be revealed to the world.. the world may know that thou has sent me and hast loved them..

(John 17:23 KJV) I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

His glory shall be revealed in the Scripture of Truth.and those who will believe shall also display His glory that will be in them. We, as sons of God, shall manifest.shall disclose.the Scripture of Truth to others. Those that will receive the love of the revealed Truth shall share in this revelation of Christ Jesus.who is the Truth. His words bring life and peace to those who will hear with their ears.

(Rom 8:18 KJV) For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

The Scriptures wait for the disclosure of the sons of God.for the preaching of the revealed Truth (the revelation of Christ Jesus) that has been hidden within.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

We, as the sons of God, shall participate with the saints of the Bible in revealing the hidden mysteries of the Bible.revealing the Truth.the knowledge of God.to all men. We will be the epistle written in our hearts.known and read of all men. His glory will shine in our lives because we will have received the love of His Truth and be saved. His Word is Spirit.it is Life.and His Light will shine in the darkness of the world through us. That is our inheritance with the saints in Light.

(2 Cor 3:2 KJV) Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshly tables of the heart.

What Jesus speaks to us with the Spirit of Truth in the darkness of this world, we are to preach upon the housetops so that others may hear.so that others may hear and be saved.

(Mat 10:27 KJV) What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

That is our inheritance with the saints in the Light of Christ Jesus.we are to be made preachers of the revealed Truthto show forth His Light in this dark world. We are to be partakers with them.being the living epistle of Christ. What we hear in the ear that is spoken in the Spirit of Truth, we are to repeat.

(Col1:12 KJV) Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

We are to believe in the revealed Truth when it comes. This is the work of God.that we believe on him whom He has sent. God sends the Spirit of Truth to us to reveal His living Word of Truth..and we are to receive His words and believe themto love His Word of Truth. We are to eat the flesh of the Son of man (receive the Truth that is revealed in the Scriptures) and drink his blood..LOVE the Truthto believe and do the Truth. This is the bread of life..Christ Jesus who is the heavenly revelation of the Truthwho IS the Truth.the living Word of God.

(John 6:27 KJV) Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
30 They said therefore unto him, What sign showest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?
31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.

The bread of God is the revealed, heavenly Word of Truth. The Lord will open up the Scriptures (the heavens will open) to our understanding with His Spirit of Truth and we are to hear and receive His Word. Moses gave the Law with earthly words.man has only understood Moses in the outward letter of the Law..in the surface understanding of his writings. Manna means what is it? Man has not understood Moses writings in the spiritual interpretation by the mind of Christ. Man has only looked upon the surface of it. But the Lord Jesus Christ is the spiritual interpretation of the words of Mosesand the rest of the Bible. His words are Spiritthey are THE Life of Moses words. His words enliven the written word.He is the bread from heaven.the heavenly knowledge of Moses and the rest of the Scriptures.

32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

Christ Jesus is the living Word of God.the spiritual, heavenly knowledge of the Scriptures.

(John 6:58 KJV) This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

The letter killeth but the Spirit gives His life. The fathers did eat manna and are dead..the letter kills. But the Spirit of Truth enlivens us in His revealed Scripture of Truth.

(2 Cor 3:6 KJV) Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

continued in next post....

Wheeler · Aug 29, 2010

...continued from previous post...

The people of the Bible said and did things as they were led by the Spiritthey wrote the Scriptures as directed by the Spirit. The Scriptures in its entirety is the Son of man. Men wrote the Scriptures as moved by the Holy Spirit. And it takes the Spirit of Truth to interpret the Scriptures.

(2 Pet 1:20 KJV) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Moses and Abraham and all of the saints of the Bible could only perceive from afar the end result of their words and actions as recorded. They knew that their words would be transformed into the living Word of God in the Light of Christ Jesus. They had faith that God would use their wordsthe cloud of witnessesto display His glory through. They could only see this from afar as the body of the Lordthe Scriptures in its entirety.would not be completed as of yet. Moses could only see all of the landall of the finished, correctly-interpreted Scripturesfrom his vantage point thousands of years ago.

(Deu 34:1 KJV) And Moses went up from the plains of Moab unto the mountain of Nebo, to the top of Pisgah, that is over against Jericho. And the LORD showed him all the land of Gilead, unto Dan,
2 And all Naphtali, and the land of Ephraim, and Manasseh, and all the land of Judah, unto the utmost sea,
3 And the south, and the plain of the valley of Jericho, the city of palm trees, unto Zoar.
4 And the LORD said unto him, This is the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, saying, I will give it unto thy seed: I have caused thee to see it with thine eyes, but thou shalt not go over thither.

Moses writings could not see the face of God as of yetthe Scriptures were not completed. Moses could only see the back parts.but the Lord will reveal His glory through Moses writings in the appointed time.in the revelation of Christ Jesus.

(Exo 33:21 KJV) And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:

The Lord Jesus Christ is the right hand of God.without the handthe revealed Truth of the Scriptures, the face of God can not be seen. His knowledge can not be fully understood.

23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

For NOW we see through a glass darkly.but we shall see His faceHis complete knowledge in the Light of Christ Jesus who is the revealed Word of Truth.

(1 Cor 13:12 KJV) For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Abraham could only see from afar off the totality of Gods planthe completion of the Scriptures.the sacrifice of the lamb Jesusand the resurrection of the Truth.the third day. Abraham, from his vantage point thousands of years ago, could only see from afar the completion of Gods plan and he had faith that these things would have an end.

(Gen 22:4 KJV) Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off.

Abraham lifted up his eyes and lookedhe could perceive from long ago the plan of God before it came into being.

(Gen 22:13 KJV) And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.

This day = the day of the revelation of Christ Jesus. In the mount of the Lordin the completed Scripture of Truth shall His ways and thoughts be seen...be understood completely. All of the words of the saints....Moses, Abraham...all of them...will be properly understood by the Spirit of Truth. Jehovahjireh = God will see to it.He will send forth His revealed Word and it will achieve all that He has planned.

14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.

To be continued

Wheeler · Aug 30, 2010

....continued from previous post....

Jesus is the bread from heaven..the revealed Word of God that will not return to Him void.but will accomplish that which pleases Him.

(Isa 55:10 KJV) For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Jesus is that Word of God that comes forth from God..the Word that comes forth out of His mouth.

(John 8:42 KJV) Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

He comes down from heaven as the rain comes down.as the snow from heaven..in order to do the will of Him that sends the Word of God.Jesus.

(John 6:38 KJV) For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

The revealed Word of God does the will of Him that sent him..to finish His work. It shall not return to Him void but shall prosper in the thing He has purposed.

(John 4:34 KJV) Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

He speaks what the Father has taught him.he is the revealed Word of God.

(John 8:28 KJV) Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

And when we hear the revealed Word of God in this last day, we are to believe in him and be saved.

(John 5:24 KJV) Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

For the Lord comes in the voice of the archangel.the chief messageand the deadthose bogged down in hatred, division, envy and strife shall hear His voice and live.

25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

(1 Th 4:16 KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Chickapee · Aug 30, 2010

wow , you have been very carful and considerate in the Lords Word and His message
Thanks I will read this carefully , and I know there is no easy answers when it comes to , the Truth

there is a way of '' thought in the Spirit and Life'' that conveys the Lords message beautifully
that cannot be understood with simple and carnal reasoning .. I will go read this in quietness , back later God willing ..
prayerfully recieved in Jesus Name C ..

Wheeler · Aug 31, 2010

Christ Jesus is the Truth that is revealed in this last day.

(John 14:6 KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

When we will know the revealed Truth....and obey the Truth, we shall know the Father also. We shall see His "face" in the knowledge of the Truth.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Jesus is the Truth that will manifest in this last day (the revelation of Christ Jesus)through whom we may renounce the hidden things of dishonesty.because we will know Him.

(2 Cor 4:2 KJV) But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

(2 Cor 13:8 KJV) For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.

When we hear the TruthHis voice, we are to obey the Truth.

(1 Pet 1:22 KJV) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

We are to no longer listen to fleshly-thinking religious man whose thoughts are literal and focuses only on this world.

(Gal 3:1 KJV) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

The Truth is in Jesus.he is the Truth that we are to learn from. The Truth teaches us His ways and thoughts.

(Eph 4:20 KJV) But ye have not so learned Christ;
21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

Jesus is to come unto us from heaven..the Word of the Truth of the gospel will come to us and we shall bring forth fruits of true righteousness. We are to hear His voice and open the doorand He will come into us and sup with us.

(Col 1:5 KJV) For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;

We shall know the grace of God in Truth...in Christ Jesus.

6 Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:

The Truth shall set us free.Christ Jesus will set us free from mans falsehoods (untruths.) He is the Word of Truth.

(John 8:31 KJV) Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

If we hear the voice of the Truth (Christ Jesus) in this last day, we are to open the door.

(Rev 3:20 KJV) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

The Truth shall abide in us. We are to walk in the Truth....in Christ.

(3 John 1:3 KJV) For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth.

There will be those who will turn their ears from the Truth.from the voice of Christ Jesus. They will not obey the Truth.

(2 Tim 4:4 KJV) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

They will not obey the TruthChrist Jesus.but will be contentious.they will oppose and contradict the words of Christ Jesusthe revealed Truth in this last day.

(Rom 2:8 KJV) But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

(Rom 1:18 KJV) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

For when Christ Jesus comes and unveils the Scripture of Truth, then there will be no more sacrifice for sins.because they will no longer be in ignorance of the Truth..those who will hold down the Truth in their unrighteousness.

(Heb 10:26 KJV) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Chickapee · Aug 31, 2010

Amen!! Jesus Christ the revealed Truth , the whole book is written of Him !

Psalm 40 5Many, O LORD my God, are thy wonderful works which thou hast done, and

thy thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee:

if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.

6Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire;

mine ears hast thou opened:

burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.

7Then said I, Lo, I come:

in the volume of the book it is written of me,

8I delight to do thy will, O my God:

yea, thy law is within my heart.

9I have preached righteousness in the great congregation:

lo, I have not refrained my lips, O LORD, thou knowest.

both heaven and earth witness the old and new

Heb 10
Hebrews 10

1For the law having a shadow of good things to come,

and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2For then would they not have ceased to be offered?

because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith,

Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8Above when he said,

Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God.

He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all...

Wheeler · Sep 1, 2010

Amen! Chickapee, thank you for that verse.. the revealed Truth comes in the volume of the book that is written of him. Man only reads the volume of the book with his earthly-mindedness.man only sees the surface, plain, literal understanding. It is this missing of the revealed Truthmans sinsthat are done in ignorance. The sins of ignorance are forgiven through Jesus. But Christ Jesus comes to enlighten the eyes of our understanding so that we may do His will.so that we will no longer be in ignorance. Christ Jesus is the revealed Truth of the volume of the book.the Scripture of Truth.

(Psa 40:7 KJV) Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.

There is a revealed Truth to be preached in the great congregation..in the cloud of witnesses of the Bible. Their words will be used by the Lord to show us His hidden knowledge.to show us the Way of His righteousness.as opposed to what literal-minded men preach. The Scriptures are to be transfigured in the mind of Christ.

9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O LORD, thou knowest.
10 I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great congregation.

The volume of the book is the Son of man. The Scriptures were written by men who were led by the Holy Spirit. But the knowledge.the Truth of the volume of the book went into heaven..Jesus went into heaven. As Jesus was delivered into the hands of sinful men, so has the book been delivered into the power of sinful men.in their carnal reasoning of the Bible which produces darkness.divisions, hatred, envy and strife. The Word was made flesh.in mans mind. Man has wrested the Scriptures in his fleshly mind. The third day speaks of the forgiveness for our sins..for we know not what we do..we are in ignorance of the Truth that has been silent.

(Luke 24:7 KJV) Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.

The Son of man.the volume of the book written of him..has been delivered to the Gentiles and has been wrested by those sinful, powerful men of the church. They have wrested.twisted and distorted the Bible for their own earthly purposes.

(Luke 18:31 KJV) Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:
33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.

Religious man has not understood NONE of these things of the Scriptures..for the Truth has been HID FROM THEM. The churches have not known the things which were spoken. They have not spiritually understood the words of Jesus.they have not understood the words of Moses.nor all of the prophets.they have not fully understood the words of Paul and the apostles.

34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

But the Son of man is to be REVEALED.to take the cover off. The Scriptures are to reveal their hidden mysteries in the Truth.in the mind of Christ. We then shall depart from mans religious, fleshly thinking, reasoning and ways.

(Luke 17:30 KJV) Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

We shall see the Son of man coming in the cloudswe shall have understanding of the cloud of witnesses words in the mind of Christ.

(Mark 13:26 KJV) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

(Heb 12:1 KJV) Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

He is the author and finisher of our faithhe will reveal His knowledge in the volume of the book..for He comes in it.

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Chickapee · Sep 1, 2010

Amen to That Wheeler ! love it !
thought of this when reading your post ...

Matt 23 34Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify;

and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues,

and persecute them from city to city:

35That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,

from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias,

whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would

I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth,

till ye shall say,

Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

these witnesses will come in the name of the Lord after they are left desolate and they will be ready to hear the LORDS TRUTH than !!

desolate Strong's G2048 - erēmos
1) solitary, lonely, desolate, uninhabited
a) used of places
1) a desert, wilderness
2) deserted places, lonely regions
3) an uncultivated region fit for pasturage
b) used of persons
1) deserted by others
2) deprived of the aid and protection of others, especially of friends, acquaintances, kindred
3) bereft
a) of a flock deserted by the shepherd
b) of a woman neglected by her husband, from whom the husband withholds himself

wow , I am starting to see some things a bit better praise God !!!
much Blessings in Jesus name C ...

Wheeler · Sep 2, 2010

The Jewish leaders did not listen to the words of Jesus.who is the Truth. They did not hear the words of Moses also.neither did they listen to the witness of Abeland all of the witnesses who were slain. It was the lawyers who had taken away the key of knowledge from those who would listen. The lawyers were experts in the writings of Moses and they had taken away the key of knowledge from all of us to this day.the key to understanding Moses writings was taken away by those who would have truly understood Moses in the knowledge of God by hearing Jesus words.

(Luke 11:51 KJV) From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.
52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

There was an opportunity 2000 years ago for Moses writings to be understood in the mind of Christ by the Jewish leadersthe lawyers. But that door was shut by those who could have entered in. To this day, the Jews do not understand the writings of Moses in the spiritual understanding of Christ..neither do the Christiansthat key had been taken away. But Christ Jesus.who is the revealed Truthis that key who comes to open up ALL of the Scriptures in the knowledge of God. The writings of Moses could not be understood because the Jewish leaders did not hear and believe in the words of Jesuswho spoke the Word of God to them.

(John 5:37 KJV) And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

His Word was not abiding in them..they believed not. They did not believe in Moses words nor the words of Jesus. Moses wrote of Jesus.Christ Jesus is in the writings of Moses.

38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

Christ Jesus is the revealed Truth of Moses and all of the Scriptureswe are to come to him. Searching the Scriptures in the fleshly thinking of man has no life.

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.

Since those leaders did not believe in the words of Jesus and Mosesthen they were not able to understand the writings of Moses in the spiritual knowledge of God. If we look back in Numbers, we can see a clue to this prophecy of them not entering into His knowledge.

(Num 20:7 KJV) And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

The rock is Christ Jesus..the revealed Truth from heaven. The Jewish leaders were to speak to the rock before the eyes of the assembly. With the words of Christ Jesus, the writings of Moses could be understood in the knowledge of God. The water could have came forth out of the Scriptures.before the eyes of their understanding. They could have understood the Scriptures in the knowledge of God. Moses and Aaron represented the lawyers and priests of 2000 years ago.they were the experts in the writings of MosesAaron was the high priest.

8 Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.
9 And Moses took the rod from before the LORD, as he commanded him.
10 And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock?

But instead of speaking to the rock.Christ Jesus.they lifted up their hands against him and struck him.

11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.

As typified by Moses and Aaron, the leaders of 2000 years ago did not believe in the words of Jesus.the Word of God. They did not believe in the words of Jesus and the words of Moses. They did not sanctify the Lord in the eyes of the children of Israel.the leaders prevented others from entering in. The land of Moses writings would not be understood.the key to Moses was taken awaythat door would be shut because they strove with Jesus.they provoked, they tempted, they quarreled..they did not believe.

12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

Meribah means quarrel, provocation, strife.and that is what they did with the Lord 2000 years ago.they quarreled and provoked against the Word of God.Jesus.

13 This is the water of Meribah, because the children of Israel strove with the LORD, and he was sanctified in them.

Like Aaron, the priests/leaders of 2000 years ago did not enter in because they rebelled against His Word.Jesus.at the water of Meribah.in the quarrel and provocation against the words of Jesus. The key to understanding Moses was taken away from them. they would not enter into the kingdom of heaventhey would not reign over the Scriptures because of their unbelief..the rebellion.

(Num 20:23 KJV) And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in mount Hor, by the coast of the land of Edom, saying,
24 Aaron shall be gathered unto his people: for he shall not enter into the land which I have given unto the children of Israel, because ye rebelled against my word at the water of Meribah.

And the writings of Moses could not go over there.be understood in the knowledge of God.because the leaders of the people quarreled and did not believe the words of Jesus.

(Deu 34:4 KJV) And the LORD said unto him, This is the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, saying, I will give it unto thy seed: I have caused thee to see it with thine eyes, but thou shalt not go over thither.

The witness of Moses had stopped speaking to them.

5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.

No man knows of Moses sepulcher to this day.that sepulcher of Moses is referring spiritually to his writings. No man understands his writings because of the rebellion of the Jewish leaders of 2000 years ago against the Word of God. They had taken away that key of knowledge.and no man to this day can know the spiritual knowledge of Moses until Christ Jesusthe revealed Truth comes and opens up the tombs of the witnesses words.

6 And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.

But the days of mourning for Moses shall endwe shall know the spiritual understanding of his writings in the Spirit of wisdom.Christ Jesus. Joshua the son of Nun is a veiled reference to Christ Jesus. He was full of the Spirit of Wisdomso is Christ Jesus who comes in this last day and all of us shall hearken unto him.

(Deu 34:8 KJV) And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.
9 And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as the LORD commanded Moses.

Joshua.Christ Jesus....is the one to cross over Jordan. He is the interpreter of Moses writings.the minister of Moses.

(Josh 1:1 KJV) Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses' minister, saying,

He shall arise and open up the Scriptures to our understanding. The land is the Scripture of Truth that we shall take possession of in His understanding.

2 Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel.
3 Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses.

We are to hear the words of the Lord our God.to hear His revealed Word. We are to draw near to Him and hear His Truth.

(Josh 3:9 KJV) And Joshua said unto the children of Israel, Come hither, and hear the words of the LORD your God.

The living Word of God will dwell with us and He shall drive out those who wrest His Wordwho corrupt His Word for unjust gain.who turn their ears from the Truth and refuse to hear. The Canaanites = the merchants who make merchandise of us with their false preaching. The Hittites = terrorthose preachers of terror who terrorize the sheep into accepting their falsehoods..the Amoritesthe prominent proud leaders of the church.the Jebusitesthose leaders who trample down the Word of God with their falsehoods.etc.

10 And Joshua said, Hereby ye shall know that the living God is among you, and that he will without fail drive out from before you the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Hivites, and the Perizzites, and the Girga[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]es, and the Amorites, and the Jebusites.

Wheeler · Sep 7, 2010

10 And Joshua said, Hereby ye shall know that the living God is among you, and that he will without fail drive out from before you the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Hivites, and the Perizzites, and the Girga[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]es, and the Amorites, and the Jebusites.

Interesting way that CF automatically censored the spelling of the Girgas***es.the Girgas***es means those who dwell on clayey soil.or clay dwellers. They represent those who mind the earthly things.who look on the outward appearance (in the literal meaning) of the Scriptures and pursue their earthly lusts for money and power in the church.

(Phil 3:17 KJV) Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

The Girgas@@@tes spiritually represent those who mind the earthly thingswhose glory is in their shame..the clay soil dwellers.

19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

The Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgash., the Amorites and the Jebusites spiritually represent those men of perdition who wrest the Scriptures to their own destruction. They are the merchants (the meaning of Canaanites) who preach out of their covetousness for the things of this world. They represent those who hand the Word of God deceitfully and will not believe in the revealed Truth.

(2 Cor 4:2 KJV) But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

The gospel of Truth shall be hid from them.those Christian preachers of unrighteousnessbecause the god of this world (their own belly.their lust for the earthly things) shall blind their minds of those who will not believe in the revealed Truth of the Word ( the light of the glorious gospel of Christ.)

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

They will preach only themselves.and not Christ Jesuswho is the revealed Truth.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

Those preachers who will not receive the love of the revealed Truth shall continue on in their own ways and thoughts..they will continue to serve their own belly and not the Lord Jesus Christwho is the revealed Truth.

(Rom 16:17 KJV) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Those who will not receive the love of the Truth and be saved do the things of their father. Upon their belly do they go.they mind the earthly thingsthey see and understand only the literal, surface meaning of the Bible and pursue great ministriesgreat religious achievementsfor their own vain glory. Their belly is their god and they eat the dust all the days of their lives.

(Gen 3:14 KJV) And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

We must overcome our own earthly, religious ways and thoughts in order to possess the promised land.the glorious Word of Truth. We must humble ourselves at His knowledge in order to understand all the mysteries of the Bible. We must be eager to seize upon His Truthand overcome.

(Num 13:30 KJV) And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.

The revealed Scripture of Truth is the land that flows with milk and honey. The Truth shall set us freefree from mans bondage (out of the hand of the Egyptians.) The Truth shall feed us with all the knowledge of God. Those who have occupied the land.the Scripturesshall be driven out from wresting them.

(Exo 3:8 KJV) And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites.

Chickapee · Sep 7, 2010

The Lord has been blessing for sure I have been reading in private on these things asking for the Lords help on understanding HIS WORD .. I know none of us has anything unless God gives it to us , thats what makes me continue in this , I know God even gives us this desire to seek His presence and peace ...
I do agree that when the kingdom is divided against its self , it will not stand and has an end
when Jesus Come in His DAY , HIS WORD were not his but the Fathers WORD and works , this did cause the religious leaders fear and anger against Him,
they did seek to destroy Him ... and the high priest spoke a prophecy in John 11

that it was better for one man to be destroyed than a whole nation ...

but they had no idea what they were saying , they were fulfiling much of the old covenant prophets words! and Jesus warnings to them !
thank you for looking up those 7 nations Wheeler , much thought has went into your post ...
I am seeing something I never saw before . hoping to expain it in simplicity

when the prophecy come to pass , it was the Lord Himself who told them high priests that when they broke the covenant in Jerusalem / the vision of peace or the teaching of peace Jerusalem = "set ye double peace" Mat 23:37O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, [thou] that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under [her] wings, and ye would not!
they saw Jesus as a threat to their power and God choosing them over all nations
this in turn lead to their demise , when they set their hearts to kill Jesus , this lead to the division and end of their reign .. that the gentiles would indeed come and destroy them ! fulfilling the prophecy of the old testament ..

Jhn 11:52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad. Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death.
this would be the ushering in of the new covenant , that the Lord would have mercy on all who would come to the marriage supper of the Lamb ... that prophecy / Word spoken by Jesus Himself .Mat 22:4Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and [my] fatlings [are] killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the marriage.:9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.. Rev 19:10And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See [thou do it] not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

His peace C

Wheeler · Sep 8, 2010

Chickapee,

Indeed, God gives us the desire to seek His presence and peace. Nothing comes from our own efforts. God gives us all things.

Yes, prophecies were fulfilled.and are to be fulfilled. First the natural, then the spiritual. We are to be mindful of all of the words of the prophets ( Moses and all of the prophets)..we are to remember what they have saidbecause their words still have meaning for the Christian church in these last days.

(2 Pet 3:1 KJV) This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

We, the gentile Christian church, have been that foolish ..meaning unintelligent, wicked.nation that has provoked the Jews to jealousy. We, the foolish nation, has angered them. We have not known what we preach nor truly understand His will for mankind.

(Rom 10:19 KJV) But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

The Gentile church has provoked them to anger by our foolish religious ways and thoughts..because they had provoked God to jealousy by the thing which is not God.

(Deu 32:21 KJV) They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.
24 They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.

In vain did they worship God. Instead of hearing the Truth and knowledge of God, they stubbornly clung on to their own wisdom.their own religious ways and thoughts.

(Mark 7:7 KJV) Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

But the Gentile church has strayed away from their God also.we have been no different than the Jews. And now it is time for the Gentile church to repent of their straying away from Himto repent from their own religious ways and thoughtsto repent from their own foolish thinking. He will reveal the Truth of this situation by which we can understand our sinsour missing the mark. If we do not love each other because of our envy and strife brought on upon doctrinal differences (literalizing the Bible in our own wisdom,) then we have broken His covenant also.

(John 13:34 KJV) A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

We, the Gentile Christian church, have not been any better than the Jews. We have all been under sin.the missing of the mark of the Truth. There is none that truly understand Him ( the Jews and the foolish Gentile churches)..we have all gone out of the Way of righteousness and need to be saved.

(Rom 3:9 KJV) What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Both Jews and the Gentile church have gone out of the Way..TOGETHER we have BECOME unprofitable. But God will be merciful to both groupsand we are to come together in His revealed Truthwhere there will be no difference of Jew and Gentile in Christ Jesus who is the revealed Truth.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

The literal things were done and said 2000 years ago so that they prophecies MIGHT BE FULFILLED to the fullest. First the natural, then the fulfillment of them in the spiritual.

(Mat 8:17 KJV) That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
The Lord will forgive those of the Gentile church who have been dead in trespasses and sin. Many have been sick and asleep because of their lack of love for one another.because of envy and strife in the church.the church of the foolish nation. We come together in divisions.

(1 Cor 11:17 KJV) Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse.
18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

We are to love one another.the Spirit of the Lords supper that we are to keep..the NEW covenant.the NEW testament.the NEW commandment. Many are weak and sickly among us and many sleep because of envy and strifehatred and divisions.

(1 Cor 11:24 KJV) And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come.
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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