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Racist robocall targets Andrew Gillum in Florida governor's race

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Words to a song are just that.

I have no clue if someone called Gillum with racist remarks, but I don't believe that DeSantis' remark was racist. It was a figure of speech and Gillum used it to claim victimhood status. IT'S THE MODUS OF OPERANDI OF SOROS WHO IS TRYING TO COLLAPSE THE U.S. AND SOROS IS BACKING GILLUM.

AFTER Gillum accused DeSantis of racism he received HUGE DONATIONS. Now if someone is trying to win an election and we know that money is essential, it would further his aims to raise even more money...by a false flag. I never said that I knew that this is what he was doing, but I'm suspect - as we all should be. But I know enough about Soros, Gillum's backer, that I would vote DeSantis. I suggest that you research Soros.

No one called Gillum. Someone is calling constituents with an anti-Gillum message. I'm not going to post the contents, but wapo and I think the NYT put part of the message in their story.
 
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No one called Gillum. Someone is calling constituents with an anti-Gillum message.
I wasn't following the story - but again, the robocalls could be from DeSantis, or they could be from Gillum's camp. Being backed by Soros I tend to think the latter.
 
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I wasn't following the story - but again, the robocalls could be from DeSantis, or they could be from Gillum's camp. Being backed by Soros I tend to think the latter.

I don't believe DeSantis is behind it.
 
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I wasn't following the story - but again, the robocalls could be from DeSantis, or they could be from Gillum's camp. Being backed by Soros I tend to think the latter.

You actually think that Gillum would make a call with the worst black stereotypes, playing on the fears of white people, knowing there is a segmet of the population that still consciously and subconsciously holds those beliefs? SMH. That's not how this works. No one would do that. That's not the association someone wants to fight against.
 
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I don't believe DeSantis is behind it.
I doubt it as well although I don't put anything past politicians; however I tend to not believe DeSantis was behind it because it would turn people off if he sent racist robocalls and everyone knows it.

It seems too contrived. The other reason is because Soros is backing Gillum and he uses the same MO of victimhood to win the masses over.

Politics are dirty.
 
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You actually think that Gillum would make a call with the worst black stereotypes, playing on the fears of white people, knowing there is a segmet of the population that still consciously and subconsciously holds those beliefs? SMH. That's not how this works. No one would do that. That's not the association someone wants to fight against.
No one would do that? Please do more research! Things like that are done routinely! I told everyone what happened with my husband's friend. Think of a time when you personally encountered the worst sin in another individual and ask yourself if you really believe that something like that wouldn't be done. I could tell you some dirty things other so-called 'Christians' have done, how much more a non-Christian would do without conscience.

When my oldest went off to college I was worried about campus crime. I spoke with the brother of a woman who was murdered on campus and who was the head of an organization for campus security. I told him: "I guess you don't have this problem with Christian colleges." He said words that shook me to my core: "Actually Christian colleges are worse because they refuse to admit there's a problem."

If CHRISTIANS are going to subject students on campus to rape and murder then how much WORSE would unbelievers do?

"Mans heart is desperately wicked and evil, who can know it?"
 
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No one would do that? Please do more research! Things like that are done routinely! I told everyone what happened with my husband's friend. Think of a time when you personally encountered the worst sin in another individual and ask yourself if you really believe that something like that wouldn't be done. I could tell you some dirty things other so-called 'Christians' have done, how much more a non-Christian would do without conscience.

When my oldest went off to college I was worried about campus crime. I spoke with the brother of a woman who was murdered on campus and who was the head of an organization for campus security. I told him: "I guess you don't have this problem with Christian colleges." He said words that shook me to my core: "Actually Christian colleges are worse because they refuse to admit there's a problem."

If CHRISTIANS are going to subject students on campus to rape and murder then how much WORSE would unbelievers do?

"Mans heart is desperately wicked and evil, who can know it?"

Evil by Christians is always worse imo. In addition to human decency and their own conscious, they have the added obstacle of having to overcome the guidance of the Holy Spirit. You have to harden your heart and mind and war against the Spirit in order to do this.

You still seem to have missed the point that an outside white supremacist group which has arranged calls in other states has taken credit for this. Regardless of whether or not DeSantis is actually involved as this could simply be happening because he has a black opponent and someone wants to randomly stir up strife, his monkey comment and lack of apology concerning it, is enough to give that group the hint that he's their man.
 
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Evil by Christians is always worse imo. In addition to human decency and their own conscious, they have the added obstacle of having to overcome the guidance of the Holy Spirit. You have to harden your heart and mind and war against the Spirit in order to do this.

You still seem to have missed the point that an outside white supremacist group which has arranged calls in other states has taken credit for this. Regardless of whether or not DeSantis is actually involved as this could simply be happening because he has a black opponent and someone wants to randomly stir up strife, his monkey comment and lack of apology concerning it, is enough to give that group the hint that he's their man.

I was blindsided by the evil of other Christians and you're right it's worse. For me it was worse because it was so unexpected. One Christian did the worst thing imaginable - and then lied about it which resulted in something very serious which I can't speak of. I know that God will eventually bring that individual to the truth and it's going to be a rough awakening for them to see the raw ugly evil of their own heart. But they were so evil that they enlisted another person to insist that nothing wrong was done and tried to attack and bully me into agreeing with them. That's how I saw how evil works. Someone does evil and then tries to control the narrative about what they did. They attack people who are willing to face the truth and speak the truth because to stay delusional and in denial about their evil shields them from looking at their ugliness. I cannot even think of that person that it doesn't turn my stomach.

I completely cut both individuals out of my life. Later the one individual showed up at my house one Sunday and admitted the truth. But not before gravely hurting me and someone else. I asked why they went along with the evil. He said: "if I didn't then so-and-so wouldn't bother with me." So there you have it. Ugly. "Mans heart is desperately wicked, who can know it?"

The son of a snobby, wealthy, "Christian" lawyer in our town was a drug dealer but he was slick like his father and never got caught - everybody else he sold drugs to did. Now the drug dealer is a lawyer in daddy's practice. His father made a snobbish remark about one of my children. So I told him that everyone in town knew that his son was dealing drugs. He was so incensed that I would have the gall to tell the truth that he threatened to sue me. It was okay for him to denigrate others' kids but don't you dare say anything about MY kid because I"M JOE XXXXXXX. It's all corrupt. His firm advertises on TV and rakes in the business. They're millionaires - and ruined lives. But there are people who know about them. I always tell people to look at online reviews of lawyers, doctors, etc. Some of them post numerous fake reviews but if you see a bad rating then it's likely true.

I've lived through a lot and I see how evil works in people - even Christians.

I hadn't read that a white supremacist group took credit for it. People sometimes take credit for doing something when they didn't for various reasons - or maybe they did, we don't know.

One of the first pastors I listened to was a black man. My husband and I went to a meeting where he spoke and we and one other person were the only whites. Those black people were great to us. This black woman came up and took our baby and our baby loved her. And I am concerned about all the black men shot by police and something needs to be done. Police aren't being trained well enough - although there are stellar police too. But Gillum is backed by Soros and Soros has an M.O. - victimhood. So because he's backed by Soros, I'm very suspect about anything that happens. Soros is illuminati - a satanist. Look it up. He has actually manipulated pastors even though he claims to be an atheist.

I don't believe that the comment was made to be racist and I don't know how he can claim it was. Does that mean that we now have to keep a lawyer beside us at all times to ensure that we're not offending anyone with happenstance comments? Let me see: they can't compliment a woman because it's sexist, you can't make a remark about a tree because it will offend the environmentalists, you can't fly an American flag because it offends refugees, you can't scratch your ear or you'll offend the deaf...this politically correct culture has jumped the rails. Of course you use judgment when you speak but making a comment and have someone interpret it into something ugly tells more about Gillum than it does anyone else.

Allan Keyes is a man of substance and I think if he had handled something like that he wouldn't have tried to claim victimhood status.

I urge you to read up on Soros.
 
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I wasn't following the story - but again, the robocalls could be from DeSantis, or they could be from Gillum's camp. Being backed by Soros I tend to think the latter.

Nobody's claiming the robocalls are from Desantis. You might want to learn what the facts are before dismissing them with conspiracy theories about your hatred enemy.
 
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.I hadn't read that a white supremacist group took credit for it. People sometimes take credit for doing something when they didn't for various reasons - or maybe they did, we don't know.

It doesn't appear that you've read up on much of anything on this matter... once you decided that Soros must somehow be responsible, your mind was made up.

One of the first pastors I listened to was a black man. My husband and I went to a meeting where he spoke and we and one other person were the only whites. Those black people were great to us. This black woman came up and took our baby and our baby loved her. And I am concerned about all the black men shot by police and something needs to be done. Police aren't being trained well enough - although there are stellar police too.

A lot of verbiage to tell us that some of your best friends are black...

But Gillum is backed by Soros and Soros has an M.O. - victimhood. So because he's backed by Soros, I'm very suspect about anything that happens. Soros is illuminati - a satanist. Look it up. He has actually manipulated pastors even though he claims to be an atheist.

Ah, so the man is evil incarnate... well, that explains a lot...
 
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I wasn't following the story - but again, the robocalls could be from DeSantis, or they could be from Gillum's camp. Being backed by Soros I tend to think the latter.

Oh no.. not....not... it can't be...

(((SUROS)))!!!!!
 
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I'm surprised we don't get more of then. Ick.
I'm surprised people still answer their phones to numbers they don't recognize.

I wouldn't know if I was getting robo calls for the reason I won't answer the phone.
 
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Nobody's claiming the robocalls are from Desantis. You might want to learn what the facts are before dismissing them with conspiracy theories about your hatred enemy.
I didn't say that. All I'm trying to point out is that the calls could be from Gillum himself - or Soros since that's his M.O. As soon as he claimed that DeSantis's remark was racist he raked in a lot of money. I'm sure that after the racist robocalls hit the news that Gillum's coffers grew once again. Anytime Soros is involved you can be sure there is treachery.

Again - if the calls are legitimate then that is just wrong.

If Gillum is going to claim victimhood status then he'd better mind his Ps and Qs and not make any reference using the word white, or use any term such as pale, opaque, ivory, or anything else - or aren't white's allowed to claim victimhood? If there was real racism behind it then that is ugly but we can't go looking behind every bush for a racist comment. You're going to have a lot of nervous people around.

I read an article by a Hispanic man and he said that he could start a Hispanic caucus but whites couldn't or they'd be accused of racism. Why is that? When Ocasio won in NY the other Democrat that she beat apologized for being white! It's insane what is being said such as nurses being told that they have to go into patients rooms and apologize for being white. This has jumped the rails. I'm sure that if you combed through any of what Gillum said someone could find something to twist. Again - politics are dirty.

Here is the article:

White Man: Why Are You Giving Away Your Country?

Christopher De La Viña, American Renaissance, April 23, 2015


A Hispanic student wants to know.
As a child in public schools and now as a graduate student in history, I have learned one thing to be true about the United States: It is a white country. The founders were white, white men established its core principles and political system, and white men and women built the nation into what it is today.

Even before I became aware of the importance of race, I never thought this was “racist” or unfair; it was simply a fact. America has always been a white country and always should be. Why, then, are white people giving away their country?

Immigration and assimilation

My maternal great-great grandfather had a saying in Spanish about the immigrants who began coming to the United States after the 1960s. In English it would be: “Their stomachs are in America, but their hearts are in Mexico.” This perfectly sums up the attitudes of immigrants from most Third-World countries.

Immigrants are pouring into the United States, not for the American dream, as many politicians, both Democrat and Republican, like to say. They are coming to exploit our economy, with no intention of embracing the culture, adopting the language, or considering themselves American. When asked, most will say they are proud Hondurans or proud Nigerians–proud nationals of the country they came from.

When I lived for a time in a border city, I saw how many American citizens were really nothing more than anchor babies, born in the U.S. but living in the neighboring Mexican city their wholes lives. They had American birth certificates, but they were wholly Mexican. They had no allegiance to this nation; their stomachs were in America, but their hearts were in Mexico.

Unchecked immigration should by far be white America’s most urgent concern, but for white politicians, getting elected to another term is more important than securing a future for whites. Both liberal and “conservative” white politicians and pundits take a soft stance on immigration, careful not to offend anyone or to appear “racist.”

Only whites are afraid of being called “racist.” The Japanese don’t care what non-Japanese think of their immigration policy, and Mexico does not hesitate to deport Central Americans. Only in white countries are people afraid of name-calling.

Politics

Whites continue to elect politicians who do not represent them. As a Hispanic, I cannot understand this. There is not one white congressman in Washington today who actually looks out for whites, at least not openly.

If I were a Hispanic activist or a member of La Raza, I could run as a pro-Hispanic candidate, exclusively on the issues and concerns of the Hispanic community. I would probably win, especially if I lived in a border city or border state. However, if a white wanted to fight for the issues and concerns of white people, he would be branded a “white supremacist.”

The double standard in American politics is obvious. White politicians have to represent everyone of every race, but non-white politicians can openly represent only their own people. No one seems to find this strange or unfair.

So I repeat my question to you, white people: Why do you continue to vote for moderate Republicans and “conservatives” when they do not care about you? The average American politician would much rather win an election with a million Hispanic or black votes and zero white votes rather than lose with ten million white votes and not a single non-white vote.

Some white Americans still hold the belief that mainstream conservatives will one day advocate for white interests, but the truth is that politicians will continue to pander to non-whites, particularly Hispanics. Politicians do not care about your vote; they care about my vote. Your vote will matter only if you start running pro-White politicians who are willing to fight the establishment.

Culture

Culture sets nations apart and gives its people an identity. The European-influenced culture of the United States is disappearing under the weight of immigration. Indeed, America is experiencing a rapid Hispanicization.

You white people now have two options: You can go along with Hispanicization and eventually become a minority whose ancestral culture is erased and replaced, or you can stop Hispanicization and help keep America the way it has been essentially since the days of the first permanent English settlement in Jamestown.

I have grown up around Hispanic culture, and as rich and vibrant as it can be, my ancestors left Mexico for a reason. I am at least a sixth-generation American, so I can be sure my ancestors did not leave Mexico to take advantage of American welfare. The system that can be so easily exploited did not exist then, and the American dream actually meant something. My ancestors understood that American culture was far superior and offered more than the culture of Mexico.

Today, even third- and fourth-generation Hispanics have not fully abandoned their ancestral ways. Spanish is the dominant language even for many who have been here for several generations.

Many expect society to learn Spanish, and it is clear that Spanish has become a second unofficial language in America.

Many Hispanics still do not value education. I am lucky to have a family that does value education, and I attribute that to both genetics and at least a century of assimilation. Half or more of the Hispanics I know don’t care about education, and many end up in gangs. This seems to be particularly true in Southern California.

There is no greater culture in the world than European culture. I can admit it because it’s true. I enjoy living in a First-World nation shaped by people of the same stock as George Washington, Ben Franklin, Beethoven, Picasso, and Galileo.

Have whites decided that their people and cultures are no longer worth fighting for? Is Guatemalan or Ethiopian or Vietnamese culture better for America? Whites must believe this, because why would they otherwise let a great nation’s culture be replaced with that of Third-World immigrants?

Whites

I cannot understand whites. Time and again, I see white university students who are happy to watch not only their nation but their genes disappear. They say they would be happy not to have children or to have children with non-whites.

When I try to talk about race with my white classmates or coworkers most are totally apathetic or sometimes even hostile. Blacks and Hispanics are much more race conscious. They know race exists, and that they have interests as a race. Whites are uncomfortable even talking about race and may try to scold me when I say something honest about it.

Sometimes I meet a white person who appreciates my understanding of white interests, and, even if he does not fully understand the implications of race, he is at least not ashamed to be white. This is a good sign for white people, but these people are rare.

America cannot survive without whites. It will not survive when whites are a minority. If any remnants of Western Civilization are to persist on the North American continent, white people will have to begin to care about the future of their people. My people cannot accomplish what yours have accomplished in the almost two and a half centuries that the United States has existed.

Only crazy or highly indoctrinated people would hand over to immigrants the nation their ancestors built. I don’t think you whites are crazy, nor do I think you can be so easily brainwashed.

So, why are you are giving away your country?
 
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I wasn't following the story - but again, the robocalls could be from DeSantis, or they could be from Gillum's camp. Being backed by Soros I tend to think the latter.
Is he backed by Soros? I did not know that.
 
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Once one casts their boogeyman, might as well get as much mileage as one can.
He's under every bed, behind every bush, that shadow in the corner and all the things that go bump in the night.
 
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