RACISM? No, it is not.

[msgstephen]

RACISM? No, it is not. That the Islamic juggernaught has hit a wall in Australia is NOT racism. Most, not all yet, but most "Westerners" do not care about the colour of a person's skin.

Here in Canada, people of every race aspire and attain every career available. Race is not an issue, really.

But, forces that hate traditionally European-based culture and religion will scream "Racism!" should anything get in their way of dismantling everything they perceive as European based.

They want to dismantle democracy, Christianity, self-esteem among whites, Judeo-Christian based ethics and so on.

Get in their way and suddenly they scream "RACIST!".

Now here's an interesting story. The Governor General of Canada, a black woman if that means anything anymore, had a tree put up this year outside her residence in celibration of the Season. Her office, dutifully obedient to the forces that want to destroy all things European based, quickly announced the presence of the tree calling it a HOLIDAY TREE.

The Governor General was shocked. And came out with a statment saying that the tree was definitely NOT a Holiday Tree .. Her Excellency Michaelle Jean made sure everyone in the country knew very well it was a CHRISTMAS TREE.

Since then, several municipalities in Canada have officially returned to calling a kettle a kettle and a Christmas Tree a Christmas Tree.

It's not racism, it's claiming one's rightful culture.

Why should traditionally Judeo-Christian and European culture countries submit every time? Why should it be their culture that is endlessly diminished? People are beginning to stand up against the onslaught against them.

 

[tocis]

And your reason for posting this here instead of in the politics forums is...?

 

[chokmah]

I think I'm going to start a petition that the world as we know it puts an end to the "Judeo-Christian" phrase.

 

[Lynden1000]

RACISM? No, it is not. That the Islamic juggernaught has hit a wall in Australia is NOT racism. Most, not all yet, but most "Westerners" do not care about the colour of a person's skin.

Here in Canada, people of every race aspire and attain every career available. Race is not an issue, really.

But, forces that hate traditionally European-based culture and religion will scream "Racism!" should anything get in their way of dismantling everything they perceive as European based.

They want to dismantle democracy, Christianity, self-esteem among whites, Judeo-Christian based ethics and so on.

Get in their way and suddenly they scream "RACIST!".

Now here's an interesting story. The Governor General of Canada, a black woman if that means anything anymore, had a tree put up this year outside her residence in celibration of the Season. Her office, dutifully obedient to the forces that want to destroy all things European based, quickly announced the presence of the tree calling it a HOLIDAY TREE.

The Governor General was shocked. And came out with a statment saying that the tree was definitely NOT a Holiday Tree .. Her Excellency Michaelle Jean made sure everyone in the country knew very well it was a CHRISTMAS TREE.

Since then, several municipalities in Canada have officially returned to calling a kettle a kettle and a Christmas Tree a Christmas Tree.

It's not racism, it's claiming one's rightful culture.

Why should traditionally Judeo-Christian and European culture countries submit every time? Why should it be their culture that is endlessly diminished? People are beginning to stand up against the onslaught against them.

I don't know what country you live in, but here in America, the population is roughly 85% Christian. So if you're experiencing an "onslaught" by this tiny minority of non-Christians, then you're either presenting yourselves as doormats, or these non-Christians are some new breed of Ubermensch.

 

[Arthra]

I think there can be some complications in generalized statements like:

"They want to dismantle democracy, Christianity, self-esteem among whites, Judeo-Christian based ethics and so on."

So there's an oppositional and polarized attitude here.

We're not sure who these "they" are as it isn't spelled out who specifically you're addressing and so it can be easily misunderstood and misapplied I think...

- Art

 

[arunma]

Why should traditionally Judeo-Christian and European culture countries submit every time? Why should it be their culture that is endlessly diminished? People are beginning to stand up against the onslaught against them.

What you say has some merit in theory. I, however, have never met someone who wanted to protect "European Christian Culture," and who was not racist. Most of these people also believe in the superiority of Western culture, they believe that Christianity is characteristically Western, and they think that white people should not intermarry with non-whites. I'm curious as to your opinions on these issues.

Question: you talk about Western culture and Christianity as if they were the same thing. So how does anything you've said apply to those of us Christians who aren't Western? Are you asking us to assimilate to Western culture because we are Christians?

 

[butterfoot]

And your reason for posting this here instead of in the politics forums is...?

Because it is not just a Political issue. It is also a cultural one. We are told we are supposed to be sympathetic and respectful to other cultures and their diversity. But then Christianity and all it stands for is being targeted and our traditions being slaughtered. It is time we stand up and instead of our rights being trampled on we are fighting back to keep our Christmas Trees. To share that this time of year is for Christmas. We know that Kwanzaa and Hanukkah are celebrated but you don't see us calling the Menorah, holiday sticks do you. Jews would be angry if we did. So call our tree what it is. Its a Christmas Tree.

-cw

 

[UKrevert]

The riots in Australia haven't you read that facist Christian Australians have been bombarding Nazi message boards all over the internet!

 

[UKrevert]

Shameful Australia keeps people that are fleeing violence in their homelands in prisons.

 

[chokmah]

Because it is not just a Political issue. It is also a cultural one. We are told we are supposed to be sympathetic and respectful to other cultures and their diversity. But then Christianity and all it stands for is being targeted and our traditions being slaughtered. It is time we stand up and instead of our rights being trampled on we are fighting back to keep our Christmas Trees. To share that this time of year is for Christmas. We know that Kwanzaa and Hanukkah are celebrated but you don't see us calling the Menorah, holiday sticks do you. Jews would be angry if we did. So call our tree what it is. Its a Christmas Tree.

-cw

You live in the United States. What traditions of yours are "being slaughtered"? Can you not practice your faith in both private and public settings? Can you not display your religious affiliation publically? Can you not congregate with like-minded individuals in public and private? This "martyr" syndrome is getting old.

 

[Lynden1000]

You live in the United States. What traditions of yours are "being slaughtered"? Can you not practice your faith in both private and public settings? Can you not display your religious affiliation publically? Can you not congregate with like-minded individuals in public and private? This "martyr" syndrome is getting old.

yep, and it gets especially old when a variety of polls all consistently report that roughly 85% of the population self-identifies as "Christian." So if Christian rights are being trampled in America, I suspect it's other Christians who are doing the trampling.

Not that I've seen any trampling of Christmas around here..if anything it's Christmas shoppers trampling one another!

 

[Talmidah]

But then Christianity and all it stands for is being targeted and our traditions being slaughtered. It is time we stand up and instead of our rights being trampled on we are fighting back to keep our Christmas Trees. To share that this time of year is for Christmas. We know that Kwanzaa and Hanukkah are celebrated but you don't see us calling the Menorah, holiday sticks do you. Jews would be angry if we did. So call our tree what it is. Its a Christmas Tree.

Huh? There are Christmas tree lots all over the place, at least around here. Many corners, many supermarket parking lots...and their signs say "Christmas trees". I don't mean to sound dumb (but oh well... )...but is there a place where Christmas trees have been outlawed (I haven't been keeping up with the news so I don't know).

Most Jews would not care in the least if you started calling the menorah holiday sticks. Menorah simply means candelabra. And since the celebration of Chanukah is something done with family and synagogue, it really doesn't matter what anyone else wants to call it...its not dependent on society at all. Chanukah would mean the same to us no matter what some store sign or cashier said.

 

[chokmah]

Most Jews would not care in the least if you started calling the menorah holiday sticks. Menorah simply means candelabra. And since the celebration of Chanukah is something done with family and synagogue, it really doesn't matter what anyone else wants to call it...its not dependent on society at all. Chanukah would mean the same to us no matter what some store sign or cashier said.

I almost addressed this point, but I'm glad I waited.

I don't think a Jew gives much of a thought to what anyone else thinks about their holidays, en toto, or otherwise. It has nothing to do with any other nations. It's just G-d and the Jews when it comes to that stuff. And it isn't like these considerations haven't been trashed in the past by other nations.

 

[msgstephen]

Beside the point. If one "illegally" enters one risks jail.

 

[msgstephen]

You don't get a reaction like that for nothing. I might suggest that the Aussies are having to bend over backward to accomodate .. they're bending so much some are beginning to snap.

 

[UKrevert]

So you condome the inhuman treatment of people fleeing death?
What would Jesus say?....tsk tsk

 

[UKrevert]

You don't get a reaction like that for nothing. I might suggest that the Aussies are having to bend over backward to accomodate .. they're bending so much some are beginning to snap.

Oh yes Australia, their history is like that of the USA its based on the Genocide of the Native inhabitants of the lands that they own today!

 

[Talmidah]

I don't think a Jew gives much of a thought to what anyone else thinks about their holidays, en toto, or otherwise. It has nothing to do with any other nations. It's just G-d and the Jews when it comes to that stuff. And it isn't like these considerations haven't been trashed in the past by other nations.

I guess that's why I am truly puzzled by all the hoopla I hear from some christians, both online and IRL. From what I understand, they observe Christmas to celebrate the birth of their savior. So what does Wal-mart cashiers have to do with it? Does it make the day more holy and solemn when they go to the store and see "Merry Christmas" signs? I just don't get it, chokmah.

 

[msgstephen]

No, the defence had never crystalized to any great extent. For one thing, hate laws have had a very chilling effect, not just on hate speech but on any related disent. No one wants to risk being a 'test case' etc. etc. So people just have been putting up with the erasure of their own culture in their own lands.

 

[msgstephen]

Well, "they" are a mixed group. Some times they are people who have an anti-white, anit-European anti-Judeo-Christian bent who "champion" the cause of the immigrant etc.. Oft times it's other groups with some beef. SOmetimes it;s atheists who want to impose their own secula-humanist world view and leave room for no other. Collectively they conspire to erase Judeo-Christian culture, erase the self-esteem of whites [people of all races and of mixed race whould feel good about their own makeup], and erase European roots from countries built on them.