questions for evolutionist that they can't answer

[JustMeSee]

You are evil! lol

 

[JustMeSee]

Ever heard of Roe v Wade?

Yes, abortion is bad, but humans can legally have it done. All humans don't want to have kids at points in their lives for one reason or another.

How would you like to discuss this in the thread?

Humans are the only ones with the ability to artificially terminate pregnancies.

Some parents do not protect their young. Many more do have this trait of protecting their young.

Spit it out. What direction do you wish your comment to go?

 

[AV1611VET]

All humans don't want to have kids at points in their lives for one reason or another.

Yet:

We do, we have the urges to procreate...

Also, you said:

Humans are the only ones with the ability to artificially terminate pregnancies.

Yet:

... we are protective of our young, we have the insticts of fight or flight just like every other animal.

Can you reconcile these 'urges' with your statements?

 

[HasturX]

Yet:

Also, you said:

Yet:

Can you reconcile these 'urges' with your statements?

There's no need to reconcile it. The overwhelming majority of humanity doesn't get abortions.

 

[JustMeSee]

Cutting through all of the back and forth, does this statement express your position?

AV1611VET: Humans are not apes!

 

[sandwiches]

Animals that kill their young after they are born are exempt from my point.

At least they have a chance to run.

Then I guess bears aren't animals, either, huh?

Bears even may self-abort their fetuses if their bodies tell them they are not prepared to sustain a litter.

From Mothers in Waiting - National Wildlife Federation

Fish must also not be animals.

Male gulf pipefishes – one of the only species whose males can become pregnant – can selectively abort embryos from less attractive females, new research finds.

From Pregnant Male Fish Can Choose Abortion | LiveScience

But I'm sure those sites are lying as it's part of the evil scientific conspiracy, right?

 

[DontTreadOnMike]

1 - What would be the purpose of a half wing?

Hope this hasn't already been posted. I didn't have time to skim through the whole thread.

But I think our own resident AronRa answered this question very nicely.

YouTube - The Evolution of Morality (3-5)

 

[Golden Yak]

"7 - Why don't Monkey's have babies today?"

After pondering this one for a while, I think the question is essentially meant to be:

"If humans evolved from monkeys, why don't monkeys sometimes give birth to human babies today?"

The short answer would be "because evolution does not work that way." Someone else is free to post a longer answer, I'm personally not going to bother unless the OP returns and shows further signs of interest in this thread.

 

[BananaSlug]

Most animals cannot use artificial methods to abort embryos/fetuses. In most cases, many animals practice infanticide, especially during times of stress (environment, etc.).

 

[kharisym]

AV, by the most stringent definition of abortion ( one animal causing the fetus to fail in an animal of the same species while still inside the mother's womb ), animals do this:

Animal Communication: Pheromones

Primer pheromones cause a shift in the endocrine system of the animal receiving it. Many mammals, including rats and mice, release pheromones that cause sexual behavior in the other sex. When at peak fertility, females release a scent that attracts a male and causes him to become aroused and exhibit mounting behavior on the female, who is also exhibiting lordosis. The pheromones are sensed by the vomeronasal organ (VNO) in the brain. Another example of a primer pheromone is in rats. Female rats mature faster when exposed to the scent of an adult male rat. Also, the scent of a male rat of one strain can induce miscarriage in a female rat pregnant by a male of a different strain.

 

[Hespera]

was there going to be a q that "evolutionists cant answer' or is this just another platform for "dispensationalism"

 

[HasturX]

Kinda looks like we got drive by posted.

 

[pgp_protector]

It's just one of her stock phrases she uses when she's in a corner, just like her "move on." Don't take it personally or seriously.

Don't worry they'll soon be getting a PM from them asking to take the discussion to PMs only.

 

[SLP]

I didn't want my first thread to be like this, but I've seen some others like it so I thought I would start one.

I've changed a lot of peoples minds on this, so I found it necessary.

Yes, I'm so sure...

I'll take a quick and diurty stab at a couple of these.

1 - What would be the purpose of a half wing?

You tell us - since evolution does not posit such a thing, you will have to explain why we should address your strawman, and explain just what 'half a wing' is supposed to mean.

2 - What evidence do you have for the TRex being a meat eater? Don't say because of it's teeth. This is like finding the bones of a tall man and assuming he was a basketball player!

Really?
Um, ok...
Look at the teeth of herbivores. Then look at the teeth of carnivores. With a sole exception (panda bears), all animals with conical or serrated-edged teeth are carnivores.

3 - If humans are animals, why don't we act like it?

We do.

4 - If the appendix is 'vestigial', why is it part of the digestive system?

Because the ancestral organ was also part of the digestive system.

5 - If we share a common ancestor with apes, how do they have two more chromosomes than we do. YES WE DO! Look it up yourselves. I've never gotten ANY explanation for this.

Apparently you've not looked this up yourself.
Yes, we have one less pair of chromosomes than the other great apes. The chimp chromosomes 2a and 2b possess features that match human chromosome 2, which happens to be about the size of chimp chromosome 2a and 2b combined. We experienced a chromosomeal fusion event, not exactly a rarity in living things.
The domestic horse has 64 chromosomes, and Przewalski's horse has 66. Yet they can interbreed and produce fertile offspring.

6 - ALL dead organisms leave behind dead bodies. So why do evolutionist

Not all dead thing sfossilize.

laim that we only have like 100 transitional forms?
7 - Why don't Monkey's have babies today?

They do.

8 - Why have so many humans claimed to have seen dinosaurs in the congo and Lockness?

They don't.

Evolution requires faith.

I can't wait to see some of the struggling responses to this.

Anti-evolution apparentl;y requires a stupendous ignorance of the very things that they find convincing.

You are either monumentally uninformed or are an evolutionist trying to make creationists look bad.

 

[Washington]

There must be some miscommunication here. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, as you normally appear to know about these kinds of things.

You said the appendix wasn't vestigial. The link says it's vestigial, and uses it as a prime example of vestigiality.

You followed that statement by saying that it had a use, so it seems like you think that vestigial=useless. The link, and your quote, doesn't say it's useless, it says the original function is what has been lost. The penguins wings for instance is an example of a vestigial but extremely useful trait.

Peter

I took hailtofire's mention of the appendix as vestigial to mean it was useless: vestigial = useless. This is a not so unusual a belief. In THIS paper, "The Useless Vestigial: the Human Appendix," the author explains why he believed it had no use.

"Ernst Mayr [The preeminent zoologist of our time] confirmed my doctor's opinion that the human appendix is only an impediment on the species. In What Evolution Is, Mayr claims that


'Every shift into a new adaptive zone leaves a residue of no longer needed morphological features that then become an impediment. One only needs to think of the many weaknesses in humans that are remnants of our quadrupedal and more vegetarian past, for instance... the caecal appendix.'"
​

Perhaps I was wrong in assuming this is what hailtofire thought, (vestigial = useless), but as the quoted piece illustrates, it's not a groundless assumption.

 

[Belk]

Ever heard of Roe v Wade?

Yes, I also hear that per CF rules you can only discuss abortion in the Ethics and Morality section of the forum. Feel free to drop by and we can have a lovely back and forth where we ignore each others position to make emotionally charged statements.

 

[HasturX]

Am I the only one who laughed out loud at the monkeys/baby question?

 

[weliveintheforest]

* sorry nevermind

 

[pgp_protector]

Am I the only one who laughed out loud at the monkeys/baby question?

No, I think some of cried though

 

[Hespera]

No, I think some of cried though

Almost got some reverse peristalsis