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Question regarding house purchase- please help....

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My wife and I have been in the market for a new home. Recently- we found one that seemed almost too good to be true! Right price- nice size- nice location (walk to church)- nice lot- beautiful craftmanship- well maintained-- you name it- it had it.

We were all ready to put in an offer and we learned something dreadful about the home. The reason it was being sold is because the family that lived there was divorcing and had to sell the house in a hurry.

It seems wrong that I would benefit from someone else's sins- so we decided to hold off a couple of days and consult with God, our pastor- and our community. I prayed and the Lord told me that I was benefitting from sin of others- and I shouldn't do this. My wife prayed- and the Lord told her that He was punishing the couple for their sin- and rewarding us for our years of a healthy, faithful Christian marriage.

Usually- the Lord gives us the same message- but here we have a conflict. Has anyone else been in a similar delima?
 

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I'm not sure the Lord gets into questions of homeownership. So that just might be your conscious talking. I'm not sure how you tell the difference though.

But anyway, the divorce is a done deal. Your buying the house or not will not change that. It has nothing to do with you in any possible way. They are selling the house in order to split the equity they have in it, so that they can have some money to start their new lives. The longer it takes to sell the house, the harder it will be financially on both of them.

So if your objective is to ease their burdens in this difficult time, by the house. If your objective is to personally take charge of punishing them for their sin, don't by it.

Good luck with your decision.
 
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Hooch said:
My wife and I have been in the market for a new home. Recently- we found one that seemed almost too good to be true! Right price- nice size- nice location (walk to church)- nice lot- beautiful craftmanship- well maintained-- you name it- it had it.

We were all ready to put in an offer and we learned something dreadful about the home. The reason it was being sold is because the family that lived there was divorcing and had to sell the house in a hurry.

It seems wrong that I would benefit from someone else's sins- so we decided to hold off a couple of days and consult with God, our pastor- and our community. I prayed and the Lord told me that I was benefitting from sin of others- and I shouldn't do this. My wife prayed- and the Lord told her that He was punishing the couple for their sin- and rewarding us for our years of a healthy, faithful Christian marriage.

Usually- the Lord gives us the same message- but here we have a conflict. Has anyone else been in a similar delima?

Well, according to Christianity, everyone is a sinner. Therefore, it would be hard to do anything, purchase anything, and engage in day-to-day activities in this life without benefitting from someone else's sins. Buy the house.
 
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MoodyBlue said:
It's not like the house is haunted.

Hey, even if it was, I wouldn't immediately discount it. My mother's home is haunted (she bought it from the original owner - a widow, whose husband - we believe - haunts it). He seems partial to music as the radio often turns on, by itself, in the middle of the night. I have no problem with that, except for when he had a partiality to Justin Timberlake. :help: Also, the lights turning themselves on kinda wreaks havoc on the electric bill ;) My sister's seen him (she wouldn't go in the basement alone for years), but now she recognizes that he's pretty benign for a ghost. :)
 
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Sounds like your wife really really wants the house but needs to use God as an excuse to get you to change your mind about what you think God wants. Or maybe you just don't want the house and need an excuse so your wife won't get mad at you. Too bad you both just can't be honest with each other instead of hiding behind God.

Seriously, if it's a deal then buy the house. Someone will. There will be a history of sin in every house you see..even new ones (maybe the contractor was cheating on his taxes or something..lol). Use your brain to make a logical financial decision and don't look for 'signs' all the time. I'm pretty sure that's what God would expect of you.
 
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Hooch said:
My wife and I have been in the market for a new home. Recently- we found one that seemed almost too good to be true! Right price- nice size- nice location (walk to church)- nice lot- beautiful craftmanship- well maintained-- you name it- it had it.

We were all ready to put in an offer and we learned something dreadful about the home. The reason it was being sold is because the family that lived there was divorcing and had to sell the house in a hurry.

It seems wrong that I would benefit from someone else's sins- so we decided to hold off a couple of days and consult with God, our pastor- and our community. I prayed and the Lord told me that I was benefitting from sin of others- and I shouldn't do this. My wife prayed- and the Lord told her that He was punishing the couple for their sin- and rewarding us for our years of a healthy, faithful Christian marriage.

Usually- the Lord gives us the same message- but here we have a conflict. Has anyone else been in a similar delima?
If the owners are divorcing and haven't finalized it, have you considered talking with them about this - try to see if you can help them from not divorcing? I don't know if that is what you are to do or if this is or is not something you should try, but I don't believe in coincidences and I am only asking if you have considered it.
Besides that, I wouldn't let desire over-ride faith. Pray, consider, act in faith. Whether you get a good deal or not, the rewards from being faithful and seeking God first is always the right choice.

May His wisdom and peace come to you. :hug:
 
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Don't try and talk the couple of divorcing, it's definitely not your place nor your business to do so. I would just go and buy the house, I don't understand why it'd even be a question. People divorce all the time and people sell houses all the time, it shouldn't have any effect on you buying it.
 
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GreenDragon said:
Don't try and talk the couple of divorcing, it's definitely not your place nor your business to do so. I would just go and buy the house, I don't understand why it'd even be a question. People divorce all the time and people sell houses all the time, it shouldn't have any effect on you buying it.

Thank you for stating this :thumbsup:
 
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Hooch said:
I guess you are right-- it is not my place to punish people for their sins. I will let the Lord handle them as he will in the afterlife.

Thanks for getting my head screwed on right- I am not sure what I was thinking. Sometimes I get ahead of myself and think I am greater than I am.
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I fail to see where someone was accusing anyone of judging.
But if you feel you have been given proper council by some children and Pagans, then I leave you to your conclusions.
 
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ChristianCenturion said:
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I fail to see where someone was accusing anyone of judging.
But if you feel you have been given proper council by some children and Pagans, then I leave you to your conclusions.

I personally like the advice from the "children and Pagans" better than the suggestion that our potential homebuyers invite themselves into a complete strangers life and offer marriage counseling. The nerve.
 
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MoodyBlue said:
I personally like the advice from the "children and Pagans" better than the suggestion that our potential homebuyers invite themselves into a complete strangers life and offer marriage counseling. The nerve.

Yeah, I can see where my suggestion to consider if the Spirit was moving them to help prevent against what God hates, could be construed as offensive. [/sarcasm]

I'm sure the plea to hide the lamp under the basket is Biblically sound... somewhere, somehow, in some religion.

BTW - If you were serious and not sarcastic on 'the nerve', you will note that I have already accepted that the world will hate the disciples of Jesus Christ and my faith isn't based on the exaltations of the worldly.

I have counted the cost. To respond to indignant objections to my suggestion or willingness to help. I suppose I could quote - "the nerve"; but then again I don't do it for praise from man, I do it in service to the Lord.
:)
 
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ChristianCenturion said:
Yeah, I can see where my suggestion to consider if the Spirit was moving them to help prevent against what God hates, could be construed as offensive. [/sarcasm]

I'm sure the plea to hide the lamp under the basket is Biblically sound... somewhere, somehow, in some religion.

BTW - If you were serious and not sarcastic on 'the nerve', you will note that I have already accepted that the world will hate the disciples of Jesus Christ and my faith isn't based on the exaltations of the worldly.

I have counted the cost. To respond to indignant objections to my suggestion or willingness to help. I suppose I could quote - "the nerve"; but then again I don't do it for praise from man, I do it in service to the Lord.
:)

Apparently they prayed, and "the Spirit was moving" one of them to buy the house. Didn't appear that the Spirit was saying anything to them about marriage counseling. I surely would not want anyone, even a well-meaning Christian, intruding into my private life, offering unsolicited advice.
 
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MoodyBlue said:
Apparently they prayed, and "the Spirit was moving" one of them to buy the house. Didn't appear that the Spirit was saying anything to them about marriage counseling. I surely would not want anyone, even a well-meaning Christian, intruding into my private life, offering unsolicited advice.
LOL

Yes, I suppose that kind of places the whole Great Commission in it's 'proper' light, I mean who asked for any Good News anyways. Why should we care about others? Those pesky, nosey, Christians anyways... the nerve. ^_^



BTW - This has been an excellent example of the repercussions from the world a Christian could face in serving others. And from a simple inquiry and suggestion to too... I'm glad I counted the cost up front. :cool:
 
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Of course the counseling bit was just a suggestion. But, there is a time and a place for everything, including witnessing. I question the appropriateness of such an action, placing yourself in the midst of somebody's personal business. It is pesky, it is nosey, it is nervy. They are just trying to sell property, what more does the buyer need to know?
 
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MoodyBlue said:
Of course the counseling bit was just a suggestion. But, there is a time and a place for everything, including witnessing. I question the appropriateness of such an action, placing yourself in the midst of somebody's personal business. It is pesky, it is nosey, it is nervy. They are just trying to sell property, what more does the buyer need to know?

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
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ChristianCenturion said:
Yeah, I can see where my suggestion to consider if the Spirit was moving them to help prevent against what God hates, could be construed as offensive. [/sarcasm]
Well... no... you can't see it. That's the problem. If I were the guy selling this house and you started that with me I'd knock your block off.

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Phred said:
Well... no... you can't see it. That's the problem. If I were the guy selling this house and you started that with me I'd knock your block off.

You could try. :)
I also see a degree of irony here as well; going from a sincere attempt to help a degenerating marriage that may be able to be reconciled with a beginning of a few simple and innocent questions to a response of physical threats and/or violence.

It's like looking at black and white.



You're talking to the wrong person if you think I let the world's threats and hate of God force me into isolation and silencing me if and when the Spirit moves me. You would also be placing it out of context if you were to take what I said and force it to mean that I would hound the people.



There is evidence here that one way is spiritual and one way is the worldly.

:thumbsup:

You fail to see that with what I suggested considering; if there was an attempt to see if I could be an instrument in helping the marriage reconcile, and that attempt failed, the question of guilt and uncertainty would be eliminated. IOW - free to grab the 'good deal'.
 
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ChristianCenturion said:
You could try. :)
I also see a degree of irony here as well; going from a sincere attempt to help a reiterating marriage that may be able to be reconciled with a beginning of a few simple and innocent questions to a response of physical threats and/or violence.

It's like looking at black and white.



You're talking to the wrong person if you think I let the world's threats and hate of God force me into isolation and silencing me if and when the Spirit moves me. You would also be placing it out of context if you were to take what I said and force it to mean that I would hound the people.



There is evidence here that one way is spiritual and one way is the worldly.

:thumbsup:

The point being made here is that you are insinuating yourself into the business of strangers. My mother and stepfather are both Christians (she's Catholic, he's Lutheran). He left my mother for another woman. She was extremely depressed and had to go through 5 years of therapy.

When they were selling the house, they were going through personal devastation and all kinds of trauma. If someone (a stranger) had given their unsolicited advbice (as you suggest) to the likes of "Try to work it out. Jesus doesn't like divorce. Yadda yadda yadda," it would have brought my poor mother even more grief and worsened an already stressful situation. That kind of nosiness is disrespectful and hurts others more than it helps. You have no way of knowing why they were divorcing: adultery, alcoholism, abuse. Sometimes it's best to keep your nose out of other people's affairs and trust that God, and caring family members and friends (not nervy strangers) will be there for them.

It is NOT your place.
 
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